Next Pokemon Thread VI: Unova Evolution/Capture/Release Speculation Arena

[Squirtle_007]

Bulbasaur (May and Ash).
Petal Dance - Solar Beam
Razor Leaf - Razor Leaf
Tackle - Tackle
Vine Whip - Vine Whip

Oh really ?

Squirtle (May and Ash).
Water Gun - Water Gun
Rapid Spin - Rapid Spin
Withdraw - Withdraw
Tackle - Tackle

Oh yeah ?

Quilava (Dawn and Ash).
Flamethrower - Flamethrower
Eruption - Eruption
Swift - Swift
Flame Wheel - Flame Wheel

Differences ? No. The only coincidence was the fact that they two learn Eruption. Is it because it's Dawn or what ? She and Ash might not be the only Cyndaquil trainers who have saw their Cyndaquil evolve and learn Eruption. It was off-screen, that's the only difference.

Didn´t Ash´s Bulbasaur used most recently Leech Seed instead of Tackle and Ash´s Squirtle used Hydro Pump instead of Bubble and Skull Bash over Tackle?, IIRC, Ash´s Squirtle only used Bubble in the first movie

[J Ken]

I get that lol, the point I was making in that post though was that Ash's Bulbasaur and May's Bulbasaur weren't exactly the same.

They weren't the same but Gary's Blastoise shared more moves with Ash's Squirtle then May's Squirtle/Wartortle did. On the side note I like how even though the evolutionary line has a limited moveset, they made sure that Ash's Snivy and Trip's Snivy/Servine/Serperior shared no moves at all.

[1rkhachatryan]

They weren't the same but Gary Blastoise shared more moves with Ash's Squirtle then May's Squirtle/Wartortle did.

Ok, but my point is that there were many other moves they could of given Dawn's Quilava, it didn't have to have the same moves Ash's knows.

[J Ken]

Ok, but my point is that there were many other moves they could of given Dawn's Quilava, it didn't have to have the same moves Ash's knows.

Yep they could have given it Heat Wave,Fire Blast,Overheat or Flare Blitz or they could have given it a move of another type like Wild Charge or Extrasensory.

[RVD_fan]

I wouldn't mind Iris grabbing a Druddigon just for the sake of picking up another dragon.

[1rkhachatryan]

I wouldn't mind Iris grabbing a Druddigon just for the sake of picking up another dragon.

She already has a pure dragon type that, that's totally redundant.

[HatersGonnaHate]

If a third dragon is in the cards for Iris (it should happen but you never know with these writers), it will be to setup the final battle with Georgia.

3 dragons vs. 3 dragon slayers. It really should end like this. 2 dragons vs. 2 dragon slayers would be anti-climatic.

[KibaLG8]

Apparently Bubblebeam according to Bulbapedia.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...%27s_Wartortle

Again, Bubble, not Bubblebeam.-_-

[1rkhachatryan]

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...%27s_Wartortle

Again, Bubble, not Bubblebeam.-_-

I was talking about Ash's Squirtle knowing Bubblebeam. I thought they both knew Bubble at first but it's Bubblebeam and Bubble.

[gohan5]

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...%27s_Wartortle

Again, Bubble, not Bubblebeam.-_-

He was talking about Ash's Squirtle, not May's. May's knew Bubble, Ash's knew Bubblebeam.

Edit: Ninja'd

[KibaLG8]

I was talking about Ash's Squirtle knowing Bubblebeam. I thought they both knew Bubble at first but it's Bubblebeam and Bubble.

Whoops, I got mixed up.-_________________________________________________-

[vodor]

@vodor, Ash isn't going to have a competitive team "Smogon-like". And Ash isn't the most powerful trainer in the world like you pretend. And @vodor, I need to warn you that is possible that Zekrom is going to be catched by Ash at the end of Episode N. Please, don't say that Ash should keep Zekrom because we know that this isn't possible for storyline reasons.

Why don't ?
Ash may not be the strongest trainer but it doesn't mean he can't have a team full of fully evolve Pokemon.
I didn't said Ash is the most Strongest trainer !
I said Ash is a 5 year experienced trainer so he shouldn't lose to a complete rookie or a scatter brain with 5 pokemon.
If You don't have anything to fight back with then don't bring some stupid accusing !
I wonder if you were the one who complain about Ash being too unbeatble in DP ! Because if you did then be happy , Because Writer did everything you ask . They didn't even treat Ash like a decent trainer.
Every single Ash's rival in Unova League has a team full of fully evolved So Why Ash can't have it !
Kids Anime doesn't mean cute little animal dancing in the forest wearing afro !
Pokemon is a Kids Anime , Not a Baby Anime !
And Ash catching Zekrem !
Seriously ,Where did Zekrem come from in ''N'' Saga ?
As far as everybody knows , ''N'' Saga is about Rashirem.
Its not about 2 hero of Truth & Ideal fighting to determain the fate of the world like the Game.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Two moves make them the same? Guess all Darmanitan are clones of Infernape since they know Flare Blitz and Flamethrower respectively. Seriously though, Ash's Quilava is different from Dawn's just like May's Venasaur and Wartortle are different from Ash's Bulbasaur and Squritle. But if you do consider the Quilava's as clones you better consider May's Venasaur a clone since they only thing different is it's a girl and know Petal Dance insteads of Solarbeam. I'll admit the Squirtle's were different from the beginning

They gave them the same moves out of lazyness anyway, they were like we are bringing Satoshi Cyndaquill back so lets give Hikari the same moves so we dont have to animate two diferent ones, then they the same with Quilava.

They are diferent yeah, one is a spoiled brat(was) the other is a shy powerhouse.

[Doryuzu]

Dento should get a Shower.

[Papousse]

Didn´t Ash´s Bulbasaur used most recently Leech Seed instead of Tackle and Ash´s Squirtle used Hydro Pump instead of Bubble and Skull Bash over Tackle?, IIRC, Ash´s Squirtle only used Bubble in the first movie

Eh, I was using the same attacks to show what are the similarities, not using the attacks they "recently used".

[Cresselia92]

Dento should get a Shower.

Why? I don't think he's dirty.

... unless you mean Vaporeon (Showers in Japanese, for the ones who don't know).

But I don't think any member of the main cast will get a Eevee/Eeveelution. I'm hoping more for a 6th Gen Pokemon for him, if he goes to the next region.

[AceDetective]

If Ci gets any eevee evolution it should be Umbreon.

However after Virgil I do not see any character getting any member of the Eevee family

[pokemonsquared]

Hexaeon for Ash!

[_Taidow_]

I honestly don't care what they give Iris as long as Axew stops being the cause of problems and evolves into Fraxure. That's all I ask for Iris' team. They'll probably give her a baby pokemon that evolves into a different type of dragon, for example Horsea (Water), Trapinch (Ground), or Deino (Dark).

[Cresselia92]

I honestly don't care what they give Iris as long as Axew stops being the cause of problems and evolves into Fraxure. That's all I ask for Iris' team. They'll probably give her a baby pokemon that evolves into a different type of dragon, for example Horsea (Water), Trapinch (Ground), or Deino (Dark).

Or a 6th Gen baby Dragon/Ice Pokemon, so she can work on her fear of Ice-types too.

I'd like to see Axew battling more and using all its moves in a battle. He should get rid of Scratch and learn something else, like:

- Slash, as an upgrade of Scratch
- Night Slash / Assurance, as a reminder of his brotherhood with Scraggy
- a move to cover his ice weakness, like Incinerate or Superpower
- an unorthodox but rather powerful move, like Counter (to reflect damage) or Endeavor

My ideal moveset would be this:

- Dragon Rage
- Giga Impact
- Incinerate
- Counter / Superpower

Two long ranged moves, two melee attacks.