Next Pokemon Thread VI: Unova Evolution/Capture/Release Speculation Arena

[_Taidow_]

I honestly don't know how the characters can tell Bite and Crunch apart.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

I could've sworn he did...I know for a fact he did in the episode he gets captured in.

Nope just uses Crunch there also, just went to check both episodes.

[thunderblade12]

They should add like a black static effect to Crunch when it makes contact to show that it's a Dark type attack... And that it's stronger than Bite.

[Shraeder]

Yea, they should make the Crunch animation like it was in Johto with the black sparks...

So Krokorok pretty much only knows 3 moves?

[Cresselia92]

Yep, three moves. Maybe during the match it learns a new one (please, not a Dragon move!) that isn't shown in the comic. But I wonder how is going to be Crunch with that huge mouth...

[dman_dustin]

3 does not equal 10.

Irrelevant.

I could've sworn he did...I know for a fact he did in the episode he gets captured in.

Dub Error

They should add like a black static effect to Crunch when it makes contact to show that it's a Dark type attack... And that it's stronger than Bite.

I agree, it makes me wonder why they try to decently animate some moves, and then fail at other moves. The animators can't be that lazy and picky.

[Locormus]

If you're going to be "petty" you didn't need to get rid of nearly all of Ash's Unova Pokemon.
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Anyway with Krokorok evolving so soon, I really hope for 1 or preferably 2 more team changes to Ash team before the league. Trust me I'm sure Ash can evolve something a few episodes before the league, and then have something else evolve (ala Cyndaquil). I also won't say no to league evolutions, so long as they are done similarly to Krabby/Chimchar, where they beat a Pokemon and then evolve, instead of struggling to beat the opponent, evolve, and then turn around.

Like they did with Sewaddle and Tranquill you mean?

- Sewaddle vs. Dwebble
- Swadloon vs. Whirlipede
&
- Tranquill vs. Swoobat
- Unfezant vs. Swanna

True dat. They should evolve Oshawott and give it Ice Beam instead of Water Gun, and it could also possibly learn Water Pledge instead of Aqua Jet. Then Snivy should also evolve and learn Grass Pledge instead of Leaf Storm and possibly Wring Out instead of Vine Whip/Aqua Tail instead of Leaf Blade. Then Unfezant should learn Heat Wave :3. Palpitoad will learn Drain Punch upon evolving and Scraggy could possibly learn a Dark attack.

This is all what I want to happen, though I know most of it won't.

Oshawott has already replaced Water Gun, with Hydro Pump...

Oshawott:
- Hydro Pump
- Razor Shell
- Aqua Jet
- Ice Beam/Fury Cutter/Night Slash

Snivy:
- Attract
- Vine Whip/Wring Out - I agree with this as Snivy would be using the same 'appendages', perhaps upgraded to represent the strength increase.
- Leaf Storm/Twister - Twister in keeping with the '(Leaf)Storm, (Leaf)Tornado'-theme, but to add a new type to Snivy's arsenal. Heck, use both at the same time for Leaf Twister!
- Leaf Blade -> Grass Pledge - I'd let the animation remain a 'tail-smack', but like Pignite's fistpunch result in the columns of grass to appear.

Fire Pledge:
- Punch to the ground and fire columns start to appear.
Grass Pledge:
- Smack to the ground with a tail, and columns of grass start to appear and strangle the opponents eventually and tie them down.
Combo: Fire/Grass Pledge:
- Punch and tail smack to the ground, and the grass columns strangle the opponents and tie them down and the fire columns follow its path and burn the grass under which the opponents are tied down to emulate the 'burning field'-effect.

[PrinceGray]

Like they did with Sewaddle and Tranquill you mean?

- Sewaddle vs. Dwebble
- Swadloon vs. Whirlipede
&
- Tranquill vs. Swoobat
- Unfezant vs. Swanna



Oshawott has already replaced Water Gun, with Hydro Pump...

Oshawott:
- Hydro Pump
- Razor Shell
- Aqua Jet
- Ice Beam/Fury Cutter/Night Slash

Snivy:
- Attract
- Vine Whip/Wring Out - I agree with this as Snivy would be using the same 'appendages', perhaps upgraded to represent the strength increase.
- Leaf Storm/Twister - Twister in keeping with the '(Leaf)Storm, (Leaf)Tornado'-theme, but to add a new type to Snivy's arsenal. Heck, use both at the same time for Leaf Twister!
- Leaf Blade -> Grass Pledge - I'd let the animation remain a 'tail-smack', but like Pignite's fistpunch result in the columns of grass to appear.

Fire Pledge:
- Punch to the ground and fire columns start to appear.
Grass Pledge:
- Smack to the ground with a tail, and columns of grass start to appear and strangle the opponents eventually and tie them down.
Combo: Fire/Grass Pledge:
- Punch and tail smack to the ground, and the grass columns strangle the opponents and tie them down and the fire columns follow its path and burn the grass under which the opponents are tied down to emulate the 'burning field'-effect.

Um, I'm pretty sure if they give Snivy grass pledge, then they will give Oshawott water pledge.

[Shraeder]

Um, I'm pretty sure if they give Snivy grass pledge, then they will give Oshawott water pledge.

Same...the only move they could get rid of for it is Aqua Jet though, since it just learned Hydro Pump, Razor Shell is it's signature move, and there's no way the writers would give him 4 Water attacks...

[DMerle]

Same...the only move they could get rid of for it is Aqua Jet though, since it just learned Hydro Pump, Razor Shell is it's signature move, and there's no way the writers would give him 4 Water attacks...

Lets not even consider giving Oshawott another water move, it needs X-scissor and Ice beam.

[EptyK]

I personally think ash's snivy should evolve into servine but if he got a serperior I couldn't see him with one because it's too royal.

[EptyK]

I personally think ash's snivy should evolve into servine but if he got a serperior I couldn't see him with one because it's too royal.

[Locormus]

Um, I'm pretty sure if they give Snivy grass pledge, then they will give Oshawott water pledge.

I'm not..

Unlike Snivy, Oshawott's been shown to learn a few moves already, and it just got a new Water-type move, after Pignite learned Fire Pledge. Why Hydro Pump before Water Pledge I would ask, giving it Water Pledge and then Hydro Pump would've been more logical..

It would be like giving Infernape Blast Burn and then Flare Blitz, yeah, wouldn't make too much sense either...

Snivy hasn't changed at all since joining Ash's team. If anybody is likely to get such a movechange, then it's her at this point. If Oshawott didn't just learn Hydro Pump, I might've disagreed, but for now it's likelier for Snivy to learn a Pledge, and Oshawott to learn something outside of its type.

Aside from that, Pignite learned its Pledge in a double battle with Snivy. Good writing would only suggest that they partner up at least once more. Limiting the distribution of the Pledges so that at least the Burning Field-Pledge is shown makes far more sense then, moreso then your 'Well, if two get the move, then the third should as well.'-argument. And each combo would then be shown in a contrived sense afterwards....

Totally unrelated, who really wants to see the Rainbow-Pledge combo? We know it wouldn't have any effect since, well no starter really has moves that take effect from Serene Grace normally.. Well, Flamethrower/Ember aside..

Granted, the Moor-Pledge combo could also be quite epic. But for now I'm putting the hypothetical money on the Burning Field-combo to show its ugly head first.

Same...the only move they could get rid of for it is Aqua Jet though, since it just learned Hydro Pump, Razor Shell is it's signature move, and there's no way the writers would give him 4 Water attacks...

1. Water Gun
2. Razor Shell
3. Aqua Jet
4. Hydro Pump

OMG!!! NO WAI!

*Awaits Dman 'Tom' Dustin to come around and throw around the word 'petty' once again to try and save whatever argument has been counterproven with silly lines like: "You know what he meant!", and "If you want to be petty about it!"

Lets not even consider giving Oshawott another water move, it needs X-scissor and Ice beam.

And Night Slash, and Revenge, and Retaliate, and Shell Armor based on BW10! But it ain't getting it either.. -.-

[Foxeaf]

I agree so much with the black static effect when a Pokemon uses Bite or Crunch! Same goes with a lot of moves.

But anyways, there was an image with Dawn with an Eevee on a site (can't remember where) so she may have something to do with that. It would be cool if Cilan evolved his Pansage and Iris evolved her Axew but that's just hopes and dreams, haha xD

I agree with Eptyk, Snivy should evolve too. :3

I don't think any of these are going to be true though.

[Shraeder]

I'm not..

Unlike Snivy, Oshawott's been shown to learn a few moves already, and it just got a new Water-type move, after Pignite learned Fire Pledge. Why Hydro Pump before Water Pledge I would ask, giving it Water Pledge and then Hydro Pump would've been more logical..

It would be like giving Infernape Blast Burn and then Flare Blitz, yeah, wouldn't make too much sense either...

Snivy hasn't changed at all since joining Ash's team. If anybody is likely to get such a movechange, then it's her at this point. If Oshawott didn't just learn Hydro Pump, I might've disagreed, but for now it's likelier for Snivy to learn a Pledge, and Oshawott to learn something outside of its type.

Aside from that, Pignite learned its Pledge in a double battle with Snivy. Good writing would only suggest that they partner up at least once more. Limiting the distribution of the Pledges so that at least the Burning Field-Pledge is shown makes far more sense then, moreso then your 'Well, if two get the move, then the third should as well.'-argument. And each combo would then be shown in a contrived sense afterwards....

Totally unrelated, who really wants to see the Rainbow-Pledge combo? We know it wouldn't have any effect since, well no starter really has moves that take effect from Serene Grace normally.. Well, Flamethrower/Ember aside..

Granted, the Moor-Pledge combo could also be quite epic. But for now I'm putting the hypothetical money on the Burning Field-combo to show its ugly head first.



1. Water Gun
2. Razor Shell
3. Aqua Jet
4. Hydro Pump

OMG!!! NO WAI!

*Awaits Dman 'Tom' Dustin to come around and throw around the word 'petty' once again to try and save whatever argument has been counterproven with silly lines like: "You know what he meant!", and "If you want to be petty about it!"



And Night Slash, and Revenge, and Retaliate, and Shell Armor based on BW10! But it ain't getting it either.. -.-

Dman just said it doesn't know Water Gun anymore...

[Shneak]

Dman just said it doesn't know Water Gun anymore...

It might not. Oshawott has used Tackle before.

[Shraeder]

It might not. Oshawott has used Tackle before.

I think it just knows 3 moves right now since it hasn't used Tackle in a while either...

[DMerle]

I think it just knows 3 moves right now since it hasn't used Tackle in a while either...

So confusing, whatever it knows I think we can establish it needs something new and which isn't water type.

[Shraeder]

So confusing, whatever it knows I think we can establish it needs something new and which isn't water type.

Yes! End of discussion XD.

Pansage evolution anyone?

[DMerle]

Yes! End of discussion XD.

Pansage evolution anyone?

Naaaaaaaaaaaaah, new capture please and a Budew.