You're just too caught up with the 5th gen Pokemon.
Originally Posted by ★ Mr. Mime ★
And they're not relevant any more due to the fact they had 80 episodes of just them being shoved down our throats for Best Wishes.
What is Best Wishes Season 2 all about? Past generation Pokemon.
You keep forgetting that Ash 9 FREAKING 5th generation Pokemon, catching yet another one is completely redundant and doesn't at all advertise Black 2 White 2 because that's not what Black 2 and White 2 are all about.
Why did Iris catch a Dragonite and not Druddigon or something from the Deino line?
Look at Paul's and Barry's team. Both had past generation Pokemon, Trip currently only has 5th generation Pokemon. All because some of them like Barry's Heracross were inside Diamond and Pearl.
Like I keep saying they had 80+ episodes to solely focus on 5th gen Pokemon. If Ash was going to catch yet another 5th generation Pokemon it would've been done after Krokorok and before the gym battle with Roxie.
Plus there's no guarantee that Ash will catch anything before the league. And especially after the league your argument is very flawed because after the league, 5th gen Pokemon aren't even relevant any longer because after the league, it enters filler mode until 6th gen.
But even so, the Black 2 White 2 Pokedex is filled with at least half of it being Pokemon from previous generation.
You act as if Unfezant, Oshawott, Pignite, Snivy, Scraggy, Leavanny, Palpitoad, Boldore, and Krokorok aren't marketing 5th gen.
But what's the most recent game out? Black 2 White 2. Well guess what catching yet another 5th gen Pokemon isn't going to advertise those games at all. If 5th gen need to be advertised then that's the job of Ash's Current Unova. But another 5th gen doesn't market Black 2 and White 2 at all.
Plus let's look at the Pokemon that need debuts in the anime the only Pokemon that Ash could only ever get:
Zoroark- I doubt Ash will get a pure dark as well as a gimmicky Pokemon.
Klang- Probably the only likely one but I don't see it.
Eelektrik- I don't see it because its an electric type.
Braviary- If it wasn't for Unfezant yeah sure, but this one is completely redundant as Ash has a normal/flying Pokemon already.
Vullaby- More likely than Rufflet as Vullaby is Dark/Flying with the Rufflet line being Normal/Flying.
Zweilous- While it's nice to see people suggesting Hydreigon with Ash, I still get caught up on the fact that the only trainer to get a dragon type would be Iris. Let's wait until next gen and if Iris is still on the main cast (for whatever reason) then Ash should have a go with any potential dragon types. But for 5th gen it should be Iris.
They are the only ones that they could possibly ever give to Ash, since every other Pokemon has been advertised enough.
Seriously what 5th generation Pokemon do you even expect Ash to get. It's too late for any of them.
But back to my point Ash's current 5th generation Pokemon advertise 5th gen just fine, yet another 5th gen Pokemon especially in Best Wishes Season 2 and the era of Black 2 White 2, are completely redundant. Only by catching a past generation Pokemon will it be able to properly advertise Pokemon Black 2 White 2.
Because you keep ignoring what Black 2 and White 2 are about. Black 2 and White 2 are about 5th gen mixed with past generation Pokemon. That's the thing, how does Ash advertise that "idea" when all he is doing is catching 5th generation Pokemon. That's not at all what Black 2 and White 2 are about. That's what Black and White were about, not Black 2 and White 2.
Ash doesn't need to advertise 5th generation any more, because guess what? He has plenty of 5th generation to advertise 5th generation. Catching Riolu/Eevee is not MAGICALLY going to stop advertising 5th generation. Catching those Pokemon aren't going to magically get rid of Unfezant, Oshawott, Pignite, Snivy, Scraggy, Leavanny, Palpitoad, Boldore, and Krookodile. They're still going to be there, but what will Riolu/Eevee do is definitely advertise Black 2 and White 2 because it's about a mix of 5th generation as well as past generation Pokemon.
Now I suppose you can argue why Ash didn't catch a past generation in a new generation. Well that alone answers your argument. Of course in a new series Ash is only going to catch particular generation Pokemon. But with the exception of Kanto, Ash has only ever had between 5 and 6 generation Pokemon, so even late series captures it made sense to catch the same gen.
Plus Best Wishes matched Black and White, with no past generation Pokemon. So Ash wasn't the only one who wasn't allowed to catch past generation Pokemon.
But having 9 Unova Pokemon prior to Best Wishes Season 2, and having 5th gen being shoved down our throats, I don't get why you don't see that a past generation Pokemon for Ash would give his team a burst of fresh air. Because in real life if you constantly eat something of one thing it'll lose its flavor, this has happened to me on many occasions. But once you don't have something for a very long time, it's the most delicious thing you ever had when you have it again.
That's what a past generation Pokemon would do to Ash's team. Right now even with potential evolutions, the air is stale. They are stale. Snivy being the stalest Pokemon on Ash's team, not having anything new since episode 10 (with the revelation of Leaf Blade).
Evolutions help the team not be so stale, but captures are the best way to freshen up Ash's team. Only problem is 5th gen is getting stale, so the only way to truly freshen up Ash's team is not by catching a 5th generation Pokemon. But by being allowed to catch a Past Generation. Because at least then his 5th gen Pokemon and his past gen Unova caught Pokemon will do Black 2 and White 2 justice.
Right now let's say that I was going to buy a game based on Ash's team alone. Right now it would only be Black and White, because it only has 5th gen Pokemon. Add at least a past generation to the mix, and I would be like "OH yeah you can do that in Black 2 and White 2, you can catch past generation Pokemon along with 5th gen Pokemon in those Pokemon. Sounds awesome I'll buy one of them instead." While I'm sure Nintendo/Gamefreak might appreciate me buying Black and White, considering how old it is, they'd be more appreciative of me buying Black 2 and White 2 which just came out.
Your arguments are especially flawed if Riolu/Eevee have 6th gen evolutions or any other potential past gen captures.
Oh you mean like how there won't be a Male Gardevoir counterpart because there can be male Gardevoir......OH wait, Gallade.
Originally Posted by rocky505
But I'm afraid of the possibility of a female only evolution of Riolu. I don't even want to know what that would like.
Last edited by dman_dustin; 5th August 2012 at 10:15 PM.
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