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Thread: Next Pokemon Thread VI: Unova Evolution/Capture/Release Speculation Arena

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonbw View Post
    This seems to prove absolutley nothing. But it does look nice.
    Merchandise rarely proves anything
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceDetective View Post
    Merchandise rarely proves anything
    The theme of Merchandise. I wonder why the writers don't just make Ash's entire team popular. Heck, they did it with Oshawott. Some more effort in their personality and battles would help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Herdheaven View Post
    I want to see a group shot of six of Ash's Pokemon out at one time. It usually is Pikachu, Pignite, Snivy, Oshawott, Scraggy, and a reserve. How about Palpitoad and it could use its long tongue to steal some of Cilan's Stunfisk's food and then Stunfisk could shock the whole group except Palpitoad wouldn't be affected and he would laugh at Stunfisk lol.
    That is a good idea but he is the bossy and manipulative type so he would have stunfisk and/or Oshawott to go steal other Pokemon's food for himself. It is still not too late to show him doing this.
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    the writers have no say over what's popular. the Japanese fans do that
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceDetective View Post
    the writers have no say over what's popular. the Japanese fans do that
    I thought Oshawott was not as popular at the time he is now until they gave him Totodile-Piplup personality........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundedshock View Post
    I thought Oshawott was not as popular at the time he is now until they gave him Totodile-Piplup personality........
    A personality he has had since the beginning but although that made him popular, the writers didn't do it. It's the fans that latched onto that. They could of gave any pokemon the same personality but that doesnt mean it would be as popular
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberCubed View Post
    Damn Piplup is STILL being promoted on new stuff...

    My god...
    And when BW is over moneymaru will be joining him.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyberCubed View Post
    Ash isn't getting an Eevee...its just being promoted a lot.
    Or Virgil might give Eevee to Ash as agift. Stranger things have happened.
    Quote Originally Posted by Groundedshock View Post
    I thought Oshawott was not as popular at the time he is now until they gave him Totodile-Piplup personality........
    He's had that personality since episode 1. A natural screenhogger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    He's had that personality since episode 1. A natural screenhogger.
    So was Piplup but we know how that boat ride went. Fyi, I like Piplup, just used him as a example. And to your quoted post, his name is Mijumaru/Oshawott, don't hate him or japanese fans who gave him and 5th gen some love.
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    Well I thought Oshawott as popular before his anime debut...... Guess not..... :/

    I guess everybody else on Ash's team in Unova is somewhat popular and loveable in Japan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundedshock View Post
    Well I thought Oshawott as popular before his anime debut...... Guess not..... :/

    I guess everybody else on Ash's team in Unova is somewhat popular and loveable in Japan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero of Ideals View Post
    So was Piplup but we know how that boat ride went. Fyi, I like Piplup, just used him as a example. And to your quoted post, his name is Mijumaru/Oshawott, don't hate him or japanese fans who gave him and 5th gen some love.
    Well in the Dub fandoms it bombed, but it was sucessful enough in Japan to warrant creating a clone of him through moneymaru. (they have almost identical body types save the faces as well). And I loved Piplup and evenhad a nickname for him back then(pimplup) but since he's off the show its just not worth it anymore. I'll probably do the same for an pokemon in the next gen who got a drastically inflated role for the sake of marketing.XDDD

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    Well in the Dub fandoms it bombed, but it was sucessful enough in Japan to warrant creating a clone of him through moneymaru. (they have almost identical body types save the faces as well). And I loved Piplup and evenhad a nickname for him back then(pimplup) but since he's off the show its just not worth it anymore. I'll probably do the same for an pokemon in the next gen who got a drastically inflated role for the sake of marketing.XDDD

    Piplup and OSHAWOTT/MUJIMARU are not the same and marketing has nothing to do with Oshawott's popularity. Japan loved him ob spot english he and gen 5 are still earning their keep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Yusuf View Post
    So, this Hiragana-Katakana teaching chart apparently came out yesterday.
    I don't think this is really significant since they used the same pictures from the season 2 poster.
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    That Serperior looks very jolly, Trip's more serious!!! Could...NAH!! It can't be!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spikyearedpichu View Post
    That Serperior looks very jolly, Trip's more serious!!! Could...NAH!! It can't be!!
    your right, it can't. It's just a random Serperior used on a random poster
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    Like Joltik said its the picture of the 3 fully evolved starters from the BW2 poster.

    I was one of the people who usually uses merchandise to predict stuff but this is getting ridiculous, you guys have no common sense, its like everything that gets a toy is a talk of 3 pages around here and then it doesn't get caugth and people whine about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    Like Joltik said its the picture of the 3 fully evolved starters from the BW2 poster.

    I was one of the people who usually uses merchandise to predict stuff but this is getting ridiculous, you guys have no common sense, its like everything that gets a toy is a talk of 3 pages around here and then it doesn't get caugth and people whine about it.
    Now, now, some of the toys do hold some merit for speculation lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    Now, now, some of the toys do hold some merit for speculation lol.
    Very few. there's a toy set that features upcoming pokemon in the anime. But pretty much everything else (posters,calendars,lunch boxes, pencil cases etc) they just pick popular pokemon so it will sell better. things like that have no basis on the anime whatsoever
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    Piplup and Oshawott look incredibly similar. I have thought that ever since I first saw Oshawott. Its an uglier Piplup. You'd have thought given the similarity of the two would have led the writers to treat them very differently to avoid straight rehashing of Piplup but instead went even further by making them clones of each other in personality; selfish, screenhogging, attention-seeking, non-evolving water-type starter with a baby blue/white design. Identical- give or take a beak/shell.

    My predicted team: (what Ash would have if he were an even semi-competant trainer {anime/= games whiners SHUT UP!})

    Raichu- Never going to happen despite the much superior design and strength and the popularity of Pikachu with Japanese 5 year old girls. The writers are Marketing Prostitutes after all.
    Unfezant- Already happened, but i'd forgive you for not knowing it because you missed its 2 or 3 appearances in this form.
    Samurott- Nope because the writers are Marketing Prostitutes. Samurott again has a much superior design and moveset but the aforementioned 5 year old girl target audience clearly don't share the feelings on hideously ugly otter-clowns with personality disorders as the English equivalent demographic who are terrified of them.
    Emboar- Its ugly but do any of us not evolve our pokemon on our games for any reason? Other than, of course, those who wish to spread the 'strong enough in my puny little runt stage' propaganda.
    Serperior- It has a better moveset and much serperior design to Snivy, but no, the writers are a bunch of plonkers that think a two-inch tall newt with legs will suffice in a competition of the greatest trainers in a region.
    Scrafty- Might evolve but probably at the end. of the saga. The writers wouldn't want to give a pokemon development too fast otherwise we might start to expect some development at all for a non-starter. Heaven forbid!
    Leavanny- Evolved, but due to not being a starter never seen.
    Siesmitoad- Hahhaha, does Juniper train Ash's pokemon for him? I mean that's the only way it could have evolved, right?
    Gigalith- Ash trade and then trade back? We did that once before, but that was Kanto when we did things a bit differently, I mean it would have to have happened in Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh to consider doing it again. Otherwise it would fit it with the rest of our writing.
    Krookodile- Evolved and seen fairly regularly. So, when is it being released?

    Ash you can see, my view of the saga or the writers isn't that high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1rkhachatryan View Post
    Now, now, some of the toys do hold some merit for speculation lol.
    No current merchandise supports the main cast right now... not even the Charizard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    No current merchandise supports the main cast right now... not even the Charizard
    Well I didn't say there was any current ones did I?? Although I still think Charizard is possible.
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