Next Pokemon Thread VI: Unova Evolution/Capture/Release Speculation Arena

[_Taidow_]

I can honestly not mind if Cilan doesn't get another cature if they are going to bring him into Gen 6 that way the rest of his team is filled there.
For Iris I can see one more capture until she leaves the group at the end of the saga.

[dman_dustin]

I can honestly not mind if Cilan doesn't get another cature if they are going to bring him into Gen 6 that way the rest of his team is filled there.
For Iris I can see one more capture until she leaves the group at the end of the saga.

I was going to say Iris was fine, but I realize another capture probably is very likely.

I do wonder if Ash will catch anything in the filler. It kind of seems incredibly likely since, it is the filler saga.

But I wonder what Ash will catch.

I mean Ash isn't going to get an Eevee or even a Riolu, and not because their past gen Pokémon but because they've already been marketed under other trainers, and it would be completely pointless.

If it is a Pokémon that can evolve but doesn't evolve, I really hope he takes it with him to the next gen.

It never made any sense why Ash would only bring his Pikachu to the next generation. I get that it would be to help catch brand new Pokémon. But if rotation is going to become a recurring theme, I don't see the problem.

And if need be, once Ash has 4 generation Pokémon, just find a story where Ash sends his "Pokémon" back to Professor Oak, and then have Ash catch something else.

[Zoruagible]

I was going to say Iris was fine, but I realize another capture probably is very likely.

I do wonder if Ash will catch anything in the filler. It kind of seems incredibly likely since, it is the filler saga.

But I wonder what Ash will catch.

I mean Ash isn't going to get an Eevee or even a Riolu, and not because their past gen Pokémon but because they've already been marketed under other trainers, and it would be completely pointless.

If it is a Pokémon that can evolve but doesn't evolve, I really hope he takes it with him to the next gen.

It never made any sense why Ash would only bring his Pikachu to the next generation. I get that it would be to help catch brand new Pokémon. But if rotation is going to become a recurring theme, I don't see the problem.

And if need be, once Ash has 4 generation Pokémon, just find a story where Ash sends his "Pokémon" back to Professor Oak, and then have Ash catch something else.

Ash could also get a pre-evolution like how Brock and James got Bonsly and Mime Jr.
Like if Lapras gets a pre-evolution Iris could get it.

[Ayo Krokorok]

ash
Pikachu
Unfezent
Snivy
Oshawott
Pignite
Boldore/Gigilith
Krookodile
Leavanny
Seismitoad

iris
axew
excadrill
dragonite
emolga
bagon/swablu

cilan
pansage
crustle
stunfisk
Abra/Kadabra or Breloom

[Ciccone]

I can honestly not mind if Cilan doesn't get another cature if they are going to bring him into Gen 6 that way the rest of his team is filled there.
For Iris I can see one more capture until she leaves the group at the end of the saga.

Since when were you under the impression that Cilan will stay but Iris will leave? I thought BW was all about "breaking traditions" or whatever it is that people have been praising it for doing. Anyway, I don't think Cilan's team is meant to be big in the first place. He's a good trainer, which is why his team is so concise. Unlikely Ash, he doesn't need a troop of Pokemon just to prove that he's good; his knowledge of all things Pokemon make up for the fact that he hasn't amassed dozens of Pokemon, and that doesn't bother me one bit.

[dman_dustin]

Since when were you under the impression that Cilan will stay but Iris will leave?

Because Iris can't be Opelucid Gym Leader if she follows Ash next generation.
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Anyway I was thinking about Ash's possible capture. And I tried to be in the mindset of the writers, and I had conditions as to what is and isn't likely to be captured. And I found out it was hard, and of course the list is subjective, Ash probably could catch nearly anything (assuming it's something he hasn't had before).

So yes, slim picking but these are what I think. However keep in mind this doesn't mean a Pokémon favorite of yours won't be caught. I don't really like any of the options except one, but it's entirely up to the writers.

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Drowsee Line- I can't eliminate it because I can see it, and there's no reason why it won't happen.

Porygon Line- I should've eliminated it from the start, but Porygon might be in the anime again, it just depends entirely on whether they have the guts to pull through. This however is the least likely to occur because it's "banned" from the anime.

Girafarig- I can't eliminate this, because I feel that if Gamefreak decides to focus on past generation, I think this is a real likely choice for it to have a next gen evolution. And it's the perfect starting psychic Pokémon for Ash.

Whismur Line- My favorite of the choices. I can't eliminate this because I can see Ash getting this versatile line. It might not happen, but who knows maybe Loudred gets a split evolution.

Gulpin line- I'd really like to exclude this but I can't. Even if it's basically a copy of Muk, it could still happen.

Spoink line- I can't eliminate this because it could actually happen. Ash bonded with that Spoink in Hoenn more so than any of the other characters. I used to want Spoink, but I could live without it.

Zangoose- I can't eliminate this even with it's connection with Seviper. Zangoose genuinely seems like a Pokémon Ash is likely to get. But it might not be likely because of how Ash's Infernape had a problem with them.

Absol- Probably my 2nd favorite of the Pokemon, while I would love a really cool evolution (my mind is exploding with options) it probably would get a pre-evolution. I should've eliminated it based on its dark typing, but Absol's too cool to be eliminated for that reason.

Elgyem Line- Probably another unlikely Pokémon to be captured, but I can't eliminate it because I can potentially see a lot of humor coming from this Pokémon that if I was writing Pokémon, this is the Pokémon I would write for.

Cryogonal- Well, I can't quite eliminate Cryogonal, because of all the ice types, it is the most likely to be caught by Ash but we can ignore it because Ash doesn't desperately need an ice Pokémon this generation, especially a pure ice. But maybe next generation

 

Feel free to disagree, but I did eliminate the other Pokémon for some reason another.

I have no idea what they're going to have potentially catch, but if it's not one of the Pokémon I listed, I'll be surprised.

[Locormus]

Shucks, for some reason.. This has gone stale...

Pikachu: Never gonna evolve.
Oshawott: Slim chances.. due to marketing.
Pignite: Can evolve, likely will if BWn goes on for long enough..
Snivy: Probably won't due to personality traits.
Scraggy: Can evolve, and hatchlings do tend to do that..
Palpitoad: Why wouldn't it evolve? Honestly?
Boldore: Speculation with calender brings Gigalith mighty close.

So the only things we can really argue here are:
- Pignite: With the question being 'when?'
- Scraggy: With the question being the most open for discussion really..
- Palpitoad: With the question being 'why the f not?'
- Boldore: With the question probably being answered within a months time..

Does anybody want to go into new opening discussions with me? With the present featuring Scrafty of course.. :P

[JoaquinLorie]

Shucks, for some reason.. This has gone stale...

Pikachu: Never gonna evolve.
Oshawott: Slim chances.. due to marketing.
Pignite: Can evolve, likely will if BWn goes on for long enough..
Snivy: Probably won't due to personality traits.
Scraggy: Can evolve, and hatchlings do tend to do that..
Palpitoad: Why wouldn't it evolve? Honestly?
Boldore: Speculation with calender brings Gigalith mighty close.

So the only things we can really argue here are:
- Pignite: With the question being 'when?'
- Scraggy: With the question being the most open for discussion really..
- Palpitoad: With the question being 'why the f not?'
- Boldore: With the question probably being answered within a months time..

Does anybody want to go into new opening discussions with me? With the present featuring Scrafty of course.. :P

I think there will be a new opening when the N saga starts, and i think that after that we will get new evolutions from Ash's pokemon, maybe some of the old ones comin back? let's wwhat will happen because we dont actually know the new plot that the writers will bring to us. It's hard to say which pokemon would evolve next, it'd say that the four that you mention have a high chance of evolving soon. By the way in the new opening i can see N with his Reshiram, if he does have one of course.

[Joltik-Kid]

Shucks, for some reason.. This has gone stale...

Pikachu: Never gonna evolve.
Oshawott: Slim chances.. due to marketing.
Pignite: Can evolve, likely will if BWn goes on for long enough..
Snivy: Probably won't due to personality traits.
Scraggy: Can evolve, and hatchlings do tend to do that..
Palpitoad: Why wouldn't it evolve? Honestly?
Boldore: Speculation with calender brings Gigalith mighty close.

So the only things we can really argue here are:
- Pignite: With the question being 'when?'
- Scraggy: With the question being the most open for discussion really..
- Palpitoad: With the question being 'why the f not?'
- Boldore: With the question probably being answered within a months time..

Does anybody want to go into new opening discussions with me? With the present featuring Scrafty of course.. :P

When has a personality ever stopped something from evolving?

[Mean Mr. Snorlax]

When has a personality ever stopped something from evolving?

Bulbasaur.

[Joltik-Kid]

Bulbasaur.

I thought that was more Kanto writing becoming nostalgia. After all, Bulbasaur had no personality till the OI-Johto sagas

[JoaquinLorie]

When has a personality ever stopped something from evolving?

I Agree with that, for example: Krookorok, Tepig, Chimchar, Gligar, they all had their one personalities and they did evolve.

[JoaquinLorie]

Bulbasaur.

I think Joltik-Kid meant the writers not evolving a pokemon because of their personality. Bulbasaur had a personality of not wanting to evolve. Anyways the writers can just make a pokemon have the same personality after evolving or change it into a good one too.

[Joltik-Kid]

I Agree with that, for example: Krookorok, Tepig, Chimchar, Gligar, they all had their one personalities and they did evolve.

Heck, Chikorita had that love Ash thing and it still evolved

[JoaquinLorie]

Heck, Chikorita had that love Ash thing and it still evolved

Yeah, Chikorita too. Even Cyndaquil and Phanpy. Anyways i think actually any pokemon can evolve at the moment, except fully evolved ones and Pikachu.

[shelldude400]

I'm sticking with my beliefs of Palpitoad being first to evolve in the filler
I forgot about Ash's reserves, so now I'm positive Charizard will make a return.
I'd actually like Glalie to come back, it didn't battle in the Sinnoh league did it? I think it only just showed up and Conway was stalking Ash..
It didn't have much time to do anything after it evolved either :S
Gible I wanna see return, this time to Draco Meteor the otter >
Also it's interactions with Axew would be funny especially if it tries to eat Axew

[i2i]

Shucks, for some reason.. This has gone stale...

Pikachu: Never gonna evolve.
Oshawott: Slim chances.. due to marketing.
Pignite: Can evolve, likely will if BWn goes on for long enough..
Snivy: Probably won't due to personality traits.
Scraggy: Can evolve, and hatchlings do tend to do that..
Palpitoad: Why wouldn't it evolve? Honestly?
Boldore: Speculation with calender brings Gigalith mighty close.

So the only things we can really argue here are:
- Pignite: With the question being 'when?'
- Scraggy: With the question being the most open for discussion really..
- Palpitoad: With the question being 'why the f not?'
- Boldore: With the question probably being answered within a months time..

Does anybody want to go into new opening discussions with me? With the present featuring Scrafty of course.. :P

Personally I think the current opening will have some scene replace with N and Ash's Unova team shot at the league updated with any evolution or captures maybe also adding both Iris and Cilan Pokemon.

Also on any possible evolution with the four you mention:
Scraggy: Probably during the N saga
Palpitoad: Same as Scraggy
Boldore: If no league opponent shows up with one or any in the background then maybe in December.
Pignite: This one will be longer but I think if all the recent Charizard merchandise means (and I do mean "if") Ash own Charizard is returning this might some conflict between him and Pignite since Charizard is Ash first and arguably his strongest Fire type will cause some insecurity with Pignite with him thinking he has been replace again which also has him trying outclass Charizard with every chance he gets which will backfire and him realizes its useless and runaway then Ash, Charizard, and Co. looking for him then Ash and Charizard find him then talk so he'll come back when some disaster happen we're Pignite has to save Ash and Charizard were Pignite evolves into Emboar for more strength to save the day and ending with everything resolved between Emboar and Charizard.

Got too episode with Pignite but that's my two cents.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Bulbasaur.

Bulbasaur didn't want to evolve at that time, thats a decision on a personality trait.

[dman_dustin]

Bulbasaur.

I think Joltik-Kid meant to say was how does having a personality prevent a Pokémon from evolving?

There are cases where a Pokémon had personality and evolved.

And their are cases where a Pokémon had personality and didn't evolve.

So clearly just because something does have a personality doesn't mean it's going to remain unevolved, or even evolved.

There would have to be some other reason why a Pokémon evolves or doesn't.

[shelldude400]

Snivy's personality traits could easily carry onto Servine IMO.
Someone like Oshawott's traits on the other hand look like they'd fail with evolution.
The personality can effect evolution, but it doesn't mean it will though.