I want to wait until all fairy Pokemon are revealed before choosing which one I want Ash to have....which of course he doesn't get at all.
Slyveon is just too desperate for Ash to have an Eeveelution, and I just don't really see Ash having a Slyveon.
Unlike other examples, Slyveon really is too girly for Ash. It's got pink coloring, two bow things, and flowing scarves. I mean I could be wrong, I just can't see the writers associating Sylveon with Ash.
It's bad enough people have problems with Ash having a female Fennekin, Slyveon would be tenfold worse and this time it would include me.
NickiJynx; it just doesn't compute because of previous trends imo.
I'm thinking if Slyveon was any other Pokemon, and not related to Eevee, then those who do want Ash with Slyveon wouldn't be so quick to give it to Ash.
Just because fairy is the new type doesnt mean ash has to get a pokemon of it. He didn't get a dark or steel type in johto, And he didn't get either espeon or umbreon to advertise it.
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Honestly, out of all of the new Pokemon the only one I think Ash will catch is Fletchling. Naturally, he'll get one or a pair of or all of the Kalos starter Pokemon. Not sure which he'll capture for sure but I'll just pin my vote on Chespin or Froakie. I personally am leaning toward Froakie as my want for Ash, considering it looks like the most Ash-fitting Pokemon of the bunch and I'd love him having a starring frog on his team for once. I think Chespin would fit Shauna if she does travel with Ash since the skin tone and the teeth match each other. They look like cheery characters that I could see together. I don't really care for Fennekin, but I wouldn't die if Ash caught one. I honestly don't hope for any of the Unova Pokemon to be retained unless Ash decides to go the route of Johto and slowly replace his team members. If one were to be retained, I'd only want it to be Scraggy as a wildcard Pokemon of his team. Palpitoad, Boldore, Snivy, Oshawott, Pignite, Unfezant, Leavanny, Charizard and Krookodile are all done in my personal opinion and they all should return to their respective valleys and/or Oak's lab. I'm only thinking Scraggy could stay because Iris could make a cameo next gen with Axew/Fraxure and Scraggy and him are tied together not to mention Scraggy hasn't gotten many amazing battles and a large amount of screen time nor is evolved.
No one had a problem with Snivy or Unfezant being female, I don't see people having a problem with Sylveon and I'm not getting your people are somehow having a problem with a female Fennekin either, I haven't seen that at all.
I don't think he will get Sylveon because its seems the writers simply don't want him with an Eevee they had plenty of opportunities and never took them, I don't think it will happen now.
I'd rather see her with a Chespin, who kinda fits her (brownish skin tone and the little front teeth).
Last edited by Blue Saturday; 26th June 2013 at 6:49 AM.
Like I said Ash would gladly have a Sylveon on his team, he's a trainer that would take any Pokemon under his training no matter what.
What I may have not been clear on, but Sylveon was clearly designed with girls in mind, there is nothing about what Ash is supposed to represent by the writers, the executive producers, that would indicate Ash having Sylveon would be appropriate.
It would be the same as a guy liking Barbie over something more masculine. I know I'm sorry for you guys out there who like Barbie, but the target audience for Barbie are girls, not boys. That's what I'm getting at. The target audience for Sylveon are females not males.
That's why the writers won't give Ash Sylveon, because while exceptions are allowed, Ash isn't one of those people. Instead they will only give him slightly feminine or straight up gender neutral female Pokemon. Not a Pokemon clearly designed for little girls in mind.
Really, then you need to teleport yourself back to when Fennekin was first revealed and read the posts regarding Ash and Fennekin, the only reason they don't want Ash with a Fennekin, is because it is too feminine, which I disagree with but not in regards to Sylveon since Sylveon was clearly designed for female trainers, with very few guys choosing to have it.I'm not getting your people are somehow having a problem with a female Fennekin either, I haven't seen that at all.
What? Ash could catch Sylveon, he could catch any Pokemon. Chikorita always looked "girly" to me. Just because Sylveon is cute and fluffy and it's target audience is girls doesn't mean that guys can't like it, and that it's not "masculine" enough for Ash.What I may have not been clear on, but Sylveon was clearly designed with girls in mind, there is nothing about what Ash is supposed to represent by the writers, the executive producers, that would indicate Ash having Sylveon would be appropriate.
Though, I don't think he'll get Sylveon, I'm just saying it's not because it's too girly.
ANNYWAY if Dento goes to Kalos I want a Flabebe in his hair. :3
It's not the same as Barbie. -_-It would be the same as a guy liking Barbie over something more masculine. I know I'm sorry for you guys out there who like Barbie, but the target audience for Barbie are girls, not boys. That's what I'm getting at. The target audience for Sylveon are females not males.
Now I understand why a poor girl was asking in the game section if it was wrong that she liked Darkrai...apparently she has to like Sylveon instead.
Like one or two guys and you took it too seriously because its your favourite, just like you took everything about too seriously this region because its your favourite, no one has a problem with Satoshi having Fennekin besides the people who don't want him to yet again get a fire type and evolve it, which shouldn't be taken in consideration or atleast I don't since the argument makes no sense, Oshawott and Snivy didn't evolve because Tepig did if they wanted(could in Oshawott case) evolve them they would for example.
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It's not the same as Barbie. -_-
ASH would want Sylveon just like he'd want that fake bug Pokemon in that Manga even though it was called the weakest Pokemon.
In that sense, yes the living creature logic does apply, but only in that sense.
Sylveon was created by man just like Barbie was, so I'm not seeing your logic that it's not the same thing. In the world of Pokemon Sylveon is a living creature, but so is Barbie in her world, yes an animated version of Barbie does exist, in fact I'm sure there's quite a handful of Barbie movies out there. The only difference is Barbie is a human and Sylveon is a creature.
So what you're saying is a human character can be created to target a specific gender, meanwhile a single species of Pokemon among hundreds of Pokemon, cannot be targeted to a specific gender. That's like saying that G.I. Joe wasn't directed at boys because there are some girls who like G.I. Joe because he's hot/handsome, and vice versa with boys and Barbies.
You know it's just as narrow minded to think nothing is gender specific, as it is for disliking a choice because it has a specific gender.
So what you're arguing is that Gamefreak isn't trying to appeal to both boys and girls, that's completely false. Just because there are guys who may like Sylveon or there are girls who like Darkrai, or maybe Sawk/Throh/Thundurus/Tornadus/Landorus, doesn't mean that said Pokemon weren't designed to appeal to a specific gender more than an other. That's completely ignoring how this world works.
Exceptions do exist people, this world is not BLACK and WHITE, like you seem to think it is. Ash and Sylveon however I don't think is one of those exceptions, especially when most of developers of the anime, I'm assuming are male.
If Ash gets Sylveon, fine, I'm wrong, but how about we cross that bridge if it ever happens.
What does sylveon being too feminine for ash have to do with his unova team?
Thus this thread is completely pointless until 6th generation anime occurs. Thus it isn't a matter of what it has to do with Ash's Unova team, but his next generation team.
And we don't know anything, for all we know Ash could catch a Sylveon in the DA arc, and just take it with him to the Kalos region.
So thus in that chance we're discussing why Ash wouldn't or would get Sylveon.
Anyway, I'm just waiting for DA to be over so I can start the
"I told you so""Oshawott didn't evolve" thread. I mean in my opinion it seems pretty evident at the moment that he won't evolve in DA if at all, but I want to wait until the arc is actually over before starting the thread. My only disappointment with the lack of new team changes is that Ash's Pignite hasn't evolved yet. I was waiting for it to happen, but it looks like he'll remain in his middle stage forever.
I was referring to the fact Shauna and Chespin have similar features, skin tone and teeth.Just like how I feel Snivy fits Cheren, due to the sense of snide and haughty they both have in expressions for example. I suppose the words "skin" and "tone" were seen in unison and decided to be capitalized on it.I'd rather see her with a Chespin, who kinda fits her (brownish skin tone and the little front teeth).
Last edited by Blue Saturday; 26th June 2013 at 7:53 PM.
Anyone that ever expected at any point for oshawott to evolve obviously hasn't watched the anime before best wishes and was setting The self up for disappointment. So many obvious things indicating it never would. Pignite not evolving nor snivy even once however is very surprising and disappointing though.
Last edited by yuoke; 26th June 2013 at 7:54 PM.
By that logic, Burgundy should get herself an Illumise. XD
But... I honestly wouldn't mind that. Chespin seems (atm) the best candidate to be the next "cute unevolved mascot" and I'd rather have the girl with most of the cutemons than Ash. Also him not getting the Grass starter this time may shake some things up.