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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyAsADunsparce View Post
    Wait so people are serious with the whole Ash/Iris trade Gible thing? I thought people were trolling about that.
    No its hatergonnahate and his inconitional, irrational, Iris deserves everything thinking, none else, we are trolling/talking him out of it.

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    Aipom was traded because of Zoey Buizel. Buizel obviously loved battling more than contest, and it was her second Water-type, while Ash didn't have one yet. IMO Aipom was built for contests, knowing Swift and Focus Punch which are good contest moves. Also(IMO), the only way for Aipom to learn Double Hit was through contests. Hard to explain but I hope you see my point.

    To those saying Iris would bring out Gible's potential and what-not:

    Ash already did. He mastered Dracometeor with it, and he turned it into a competent battler(against Conway, hitting Darkrai, Tobias comment...).

    @Pepsi- HatersGonnaHate stated earlier that he didn't want Ash to trade Gible, just that it would be funny watching the reactions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    No its hatergonnahate and his inconitional, irrational, Iris deserves everything thinking, none else, we are trolling/talking him out of it.
    And they the other girls' fans are bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero of Ideals View Post
    And they the other girls' fans are bad.
    You mean the ones who are saying he is wrong are the other girls fans?

    Not really it was me, Iris is my favourite girl, Acedetective and a few other people that usually don't show favouritism towards anyone.

    Problem here is not Iris, problem here is it being retarded that Satoshi would give her his Dragon, it has nothing to do with Iris or the others girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    You mean the ones who are saying he is wrong are the other girls fans?

    Not really it was me, Iris is my favourite girl, Acedetective and a few other people that usually don't show favouritism towards anyone.

    Problem here is not Iris, problem here is it being retarded that Satoshi would give her his Dragon, it has nothing to do with Iris or the others girls.
    Well, Hater is like this one Misty fan who made her get everything:

    A easy contest win to dressing like a total.... Well I will jus.to say 'Hot' Azurill costume.

    While I like May, Dawn, and Iris, they shouldn't have everything.

    So bottom line, Gible stays with Ash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    Fixed it for you. It makes more sense now
    It looks more like you messed it up. Please explain your point?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    Problem here is not Iris, problem here is it being retarded that Satoshi would give her his Dragon, it has nothing to do with Iris or the others girls.
    Especially after what happened when he gave his monkey to Dawn.

    I'd laugh if Ash traded Gible to Iris, she evolved it and then gave it away to some guy to learn how to play poker.
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    Also(IMO), the only way for Aipom to learn Double Hit was through contests.
    Apiom evolved 5 episodes after the Trade.

    I think it's safe to say that this is another example of things that were going to work out if absolutely nothing was done. :I

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    What's this stuff about Ash's Gible be traded ?
    The anime where Stunfisks fly and Meowths talk. Where Oshawotts pop out of pokeballs and tranquills use wing attack. What more could you ask for, Oshawott evolving?. THE ANIME !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zariful View Post
    What's this stuff about Ash's Gible be traded ?
    Apparently just some delusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zariful View Post
    What's this stuff about Ash's Gible be traded ?
    it is complete and utter nonsense that has no basis at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zariful View Post
    What's this stuff about Ash's Gible be traded ?
    All began with that comment:

    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    Does anyone think Ash will give Gible to Iris? I realized that her Dragonite and Emolga share a part flying type, and so if Iris got Gible, her Excadrill and Gible would share a part ground type. Just an observation LOL
    And then people immediately retaliated.
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    And it doesn't even say trade. It says give. -__-

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    Ash giving gible to Iris would be a mistake.. so I don't ash will give it away ...just look back at the SS Anne episode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneDragoniteHD View Post
    Ash giving gible to Iris would be a mistake.. so I don't ash will give it away ...just look back at the SS Anne episode.
    Or even closer, the AIPOM EPISODE.... I loved that little monkey.


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    Well I'd prefer Iris to get her own Gible (a female one) but I don't think it's too farfetched for the writers to create a scenario which Ash hands over Gible because he feels it either likes Iris a lot, feels she can bring out its true potential, or whatever.

    You guys forget that they gave Iris a fully evolved Dragon type that is a complete beast in battle, so the writers are capable of doing anything really.

    But yeah, I'd prefer she get her own, one that is pretty much ready to evolve into Gabite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    Well I'd prefer Iris to get her own Gible (a female one) but I don't think it's too farfetched for the writers to create a scenario which Ash hands over Gible because he feels it either likes Iris a lot, feels she can bring out its true potential, or whatever.

    You guys forget that they gave Iris a fully evolved Dragon type that is a complete beast in battle, so the writers are capable of doing anything really.

    But yeah, I'd prefer she get her own, one that is pretty much ready to evolve into Gabite.
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    Has the discussion of a potential Gible trade/give away still raged throughout the whole day? Guess it's time to add my two cents:

    Gible is a unique pokemon to Ash; it is his first dragon type pokemon, the first 7th pokemon of the respective region that he caught before best wishes, since krabby, a pokemon with it's own unique personality and the first pokemon Ash owns that could evolve into one of the most deadliest pseudo-legendaries, from within the entire pokemon game series.

    Ash wants to be the "best pokemon trainer ever", and wants to hone his skills as a trainer by working with different types of pokemon and bringing out their best potential. Whilst he has shown in the past that he works best with speedy pokemon that can perform high attacks instead of slower tank-based pokemon, he has proven that he wants to work with any pokemon regardless of type, species and so one. With Gible, he has grown respect for the land shark and what makes Gible different to Ash's other pokemon, namely Torterra and Torkoal, Gible managed to master one of the strongest moves of it's typing and still be a powerhouse in the battlefield, even holding his own against Darkrai. It was only under Ash's training that it has become a strong and capable battler, though the downside to being with Ash is that it will rot for a while at Oak's lab before being faithfully called upon to secure victory in important battles. Whilst this is sad for Gible's part, it will be able to learn stronger moves over time at the lab, and prove it's worth in the future much like Quilava and Heracross did in the sinnoh league.

    And then there is Iris, who wants to become the best "Dragon Master/Tamer". She has four pokemon, and only two of them so far are dragons. Despite wanting to be a dragon master, she has chosen to work with other types of pokemon like Excadrill and Emolga, however she does not use them or give them as much development as Axew and Dragonite, reflecting her profession as a trainer. In the games, she became a champion in the black and white sequels, and owned a very formidable team of dragon/dragon-like pokemon. She currently owns none of those pokemon, however she may capture some of them in the future and evolve her Axew. What's interesting about Iris is how she connects with dragons-How she is able to bring out their true and best potential as pokemon out in battle and use them the best she can, as well as become their friend. Even though her other pokemon get sent to the bench unless she is forced into a corner, she is giving her dragons a lot of development and they are slowly becoming even stronger throughout the series. When I say this, I mainly speak of Axew as it has grown pretty well as much as it could have, learning moves like Outrage and Giga Impact, even though the former hasn't been seen for a very long time.

    If Gible went to Iris, she could very well bring out it's true potential as a dragon pokemon, and ignite a very strong connection with the land shark. But when that is said, we can ask about what would happen to her non dragons, and whether they would be traded for more dragons. Sure she owns non dragon pokemon in the games, but Iris's title in the anime is aspiring to be a "Dragon Master/Tamer" and not "Pokemon Specialist/Champion". A storyline could indeed be made similarly to Aipom's trade where Ash has to decide whether Gible would be better off with him or Iris, and a lot of points could be made to support the trade, but I woud believe it would be total nonsense. Why? This;

    Ash has trained Gible tremendously in the past and it has achieved a lot: mastered the best move of it's typing, fought very well in the league particularly against Darkrai and it has secured a position as one of Ash's best/good powerhouses to use in battle. This was only from the end of the sinnoh saga to now; imagine what could happen in the future over time. It could evolve, learn newer and better moves, or even adopt stronger tactics or personality. My point is, what could Gible achieve with Iris that it could not with Ash? She hasn't done a lot to be honest so far in the saga, the most notable being the victory in the first don george tournament and the battle against Drayden which was a flashback. My bet is in the anime over time, Gible would likely grow stronger indeed with Iris and develop a great connection with her, but it could do that with Ash. Sure it could travel more with Iris, but the growing rate of strength can never be shown between Iris and Ash outside of this saga, at least not until gen 6 begins.

    Overall, my point is that Gible is fine with Ash, and unless the writers fail to come up with ideas to give a dragon pokemon to Iris, which I doubt, Ash's Gible will never go to her, unless it shows more interest in her than Ash. At least with Aipom and Buizel, they preferred the other trainer's lifestyle and career aspirations, but with Gible nothing so far other than "It likes battling and wants to grow stronger" has been established. If in the future it shows interest in travelling through dragon villages and rituals, and training more in the arts of dragons with Iris, then I would like the idea of it going off with Iris; as long as we see it again in the future to see how much it has grown and if Ash gets a pokemon out of it But I just don't understand why people would want Iris to get Gible instead of Ash when she could get her own pokemon with it's own personality and connection to her. Gible hasn't even met Iris yet, and it already has a connection to Ash, so I overall doubt that Gible will ever go to Iris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shraeder View Post
    Aipom was traded because of Zoey Buizel. Buizel obviously loved battling more than contest, and it was her second Water-type, while Ash didn't have one yet. IMO Aipom was built for contests, knowing Swift and Focus Punch which are good contest moves. Also(IMO), the only way for Aipom to learn Double Hit was through contests. Hard to explain but I hope you see my point.

    To those saying Iris would bring out Gible's potential and what-not:

    Ash already did. He mastered Dracometeor with it, and he turned it into a competent battler(against Conway, hitting Darkrai, Tobias comment...).

    @Pepsi- HatersGonnaHate stated earlier that he didn't want Ash to trade Gible, just that it would be funny watching the reactions.
    I know you stated that this is your opinion, but in what sense is Focus Punch a good contest move? No sparkles = Not too good of a contest move. Aipom learned Double Hit in a ruin with Unown in it.. Had absolutely nothing to do with contests, so the imo in that is really not contributing anything...

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    What's this stuff about Ash's Gible be traded ?
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    U know I miss Aipom
    Ash should of gotten Buizel from the start . Dawn didn't need two water types ! There was no point in giving dawn Aipom if she was just going to give it away
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zariful View Post
    U know I miss Aipom
    Ash should of gotten Buizel from the start . Dawn didn't need two water types ! There was no point in giving dawn Aipom if she was just going to give it away
    I got used to the trade but I would of prefered it if ambipom had gone to train with some who would help ambipom become beter at something in contests(much like gliscor with the air battle master) rather than just getting a strange new hobby.Then at least she could've come back for the gf.

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    Personally I think the trade was idiotic, I didn't like it at the time and after the shafting Ambipom got it made me hate it more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokeshippers View Post
    Personally I think the trade was idiotic, I didn't like it at the time and after the shafting Ambipom got it made me hate it more.
    Considering the homestretch of Sinnoh was rushed in favor for Black and White, yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero of Ideals View Post
    Considering the homestretch of Sinnoh was rushed in favor for Black and White, yeah.
    You know for a saga that had 195 episodes, it 's sure funny you consider it "rushed".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero of Ideals View Post
    Considering the homestretch of Sinnoh was rushed in favor for Black and White, yeah.
    ... uhmm lol?
    Rushed? Wasn't Sinnoh longer than Johto? If not it was still really long

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSirPeras View Post
    ... uhmm lol?
    Rushed? Wasn't Sinnoh longer than Johto? If not it was still really long
    IMO they dragged out galactic battles and the first half of SLV far too long and that made them have to rush the GF and sinnoh leagues.

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