I didn't like this episode at all.
I'm not sure what went wrong here. We were promised a lot and we got next to nothing. Most annoying of all, no new rival. Perhaps it was a translation error, but it doesn't help that the damn opening hints at Drayden, Marlon, Stephan and Bianca.
Worst of all, this episode was rushed. A ten minute battle between Cynthia and Caitlin ended after, like, 2 minutes with no winner. The entire first round was in less than 11 minutes. Every single battle shown had a one hit knockout. I understand 6 were clips, but I'll get to the other two.
Trip versus Burgundy was absolutely pointless. It infuriates me, actually. What was the point of Burgundy being here? Great, Serperior is a beast that can OHKO fire types. Wonderful. Why couldn't he have defeated a COTD instead? I do not understand why Burgundy is treated like ****.
Iris and Georgia was also annoying. I like Dragonite, and I can at least support Dragonite being too headstrong to listen, but why is it so powerful? It seems like overkill, and it has no point if the thing is going to listen to Iris in the next episode.
What a joke. I feel cheated.
I don't care much for battles any more, but it gets me pretty mad knowing that the final Pokemon episodes that I actually have time to watch in the summer are being focused on this tournament. It's just like the first Don Tourney but longer due to breaks. >.<;
Last edited by JennaJayfeather; 3rd August 2012 at 3:56 AM.
I like BW, I really do, but... Even I can notice most of its flaws. :/
EDIT: Ack this is becoming a BW vs DP debate. Not good D:
Last edited by Yuppirox; 3rd August 2012 at 3:56 AM.
I think it being really powerful and being able to beat Beartic was to show that it didn't need to listen to Iris to be successful. It's not so much what Dragonite was able to do in the battle, but more of what it meant. Dragonite dominating like that without listening to Iris was such a low blow to her. Especially when it came to the reaction of the whole audience. They were silent, Iris was in shock, and Dragonite didn't a give a crap and just went on to defeat Beartic. Then with Axew having that little reaction afterward, it just showed that Iris is not at the level of being a Dragon Master. She was lucky Dragonite won and because of this match, this is something Iris probably wants to work on and just working with Dragonite and getting it to listen to her will be her focus for this tournament. In terms of how the battle went on technically, it definitely wasn't perfect and flawed. But as a symbol to show where Iris is at with becoming a Dragon Master, the battle did its job imo.Iris and Georgia was also annoying. I like Dragonite, and I can at least support Dragonite being too headstrong to listen, but why is it so powerful? It seems like overkill, and it has no point if the thing is going to listen to Iris in the next episode.
Anyway, after rewatching the episode, I also appreciate Trip a bit more. He is just hungry towards Alder, it was like every chance he got, he stared down at Alder. He really wants to battle him and for me, I saw a fire in him that I didn't see before.
And then of course, Cynthia vs. Caitlin was my favorite. The subtle background hints for Caitlin was great and I hope to see her again.
Wow, what a rushed episode. *sigh*
-Cattleya was the high point of this episode for me. I loved her, she was enjoyable and cute. I really liked her references to her veiled past with having something she needed to learn to control(Psychic talents and her emotions). Not to mention her interactions with Shirona were awesome. She's really one of the few members of the Four Heavenly Kings that I truly have enjoyed watching, ever in the series. Especially when everyone but Shin'ou Fire King seemed fairly underwhelming. She's so compelling and cute that it's a shame she didn't get more than this. She was great and I really wish the exhibition match had gone on longer, because this is just the type of thing I wish I could have more of in a battle. They are one of my favorites aspects of this show. I really wish more could have been done. If Cattleya was gonna debut anything it should have been the Jello Bear XD Gothiruselle is somewhat fug and I've never cared for it, Mr.Nobody should have just used Gothiruselle and Cattleya should have debuted the Psychic Gelatin Cell XD She needs to go crazy with her Psychic powers at some point, or flashbacks or something. Or appear some point after the league. I'm just hoping that Shaga and Shizui's debuts aren't just for a exhibition match.
-Wow, Takegami, you can't write battles to save your life.(This is the same guy behind Cabernet VS. Satoshi, Cabernet VS. Dento, Dento VS. Pinot Noir, Yakon VS. Satoshi(Mijumaru's part was okay though), and Satoshi VS. Kamitsure IIRC) Takegami's battle writing skills have a bit to be desired, because his writing of them feels so stiff. He doesn't seem to know how put true suspense in without it simply being so...stale. Not to mention very one-sided. The battles themselves sucked ***. Pochama beating Murando was beautifully animated and cute and showed how strong Pochama was taking out the dog like that, one second KOs all around still were crappy.
-The titular attraction of this episode I was looking forward to was crappy. I realize Kairyu is a powerful Pokemon but even he was damaged by an attack from Sanzandora. It was pretty ridiculous how Kairyu just stood there against Ice Beam, I'm okay with Hidden Power and Focus Blast. But, God did they go overboard on Kairyu endurance. One-shotting it with Thunder Punch was crap too.
-I officially have decided I'm getting sick of Battle Tournaments. The first episodes are always the same ****. If I had my choice Langley and Cabernet would have not been in this tournament at all. They're so rushed as well.
-Langley, I'm glad she called out Kairyu's win over her. It truly shows that Langley's loss didn't really count since Kairyu did everything by itself. Not being in sync with your Pokemon.
I'm really really hoping the next episode is something special, because I'm really optimistic and I truly hope the next gives some worthwhile battles.
Last edited by Blue Saturday; 3rd August 2012 at 4:08 AM.
So either Trip has like a truck load of rare candies, EV supplements, and feathers somewhere, or he REALLY likes using that Serperior and now its like level 80 amongst level 50 opponents. Personally I'd like to tink Trip did a Chuck Norris on Serperior to make it strong.
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Last edited by sereb devil; 3rd August 2012 at 5:08 AM.
The quality of trainers in this tournament is very poor, all battles finished with one strikes, this is not good i think. The stamina of Iris' Dragonite is unusual ^ he took 2 ice beams and onr Blizzard which made 1860 hp number of damage on base %) . It's cheats like Snorlax in battle with Gretha
I don't think the gym battles are that bad, even though they don't come anywhere near being as good as the gym battles from AG or DP, and even a lot of the battles in these tournaments are decent enough. They're generally as good as the typical contest battle from AG or DP. The battles this episode were just lazy though.
Here's a recap of each (of the "major ones")
Caitlin vs Cynthia:
- Gothitelle uses a move that prevents Garchomp from moving.
- Gothitelle uses Psychic to smash Garchomp into a wall.
-Garchomp hits Gothitelle in the gut with Dragon Rush.
- Garchomp tries to use Draco Meteor. Gothitelle blows up the meteors with Thunderbolt.
- Both pokemon's Brick Break collide.
- Time is up
Burgundy vs Trip:
- Serperior uses Leer.
- Damanitan is stunned.
- Serperior uses Solarbeam.
- Darmanitan is down
Iris vs Georgia:
- Beartic uses Hidden Power.
- Dragonite ignores Iris's command to dodge and swipes the Hidden Power away.
- Beartic uses Focus Blast.
- Dragonite stops Focus Blast with it's hands
- Beartic uses Ice beam which Dragonite allows to freeze it
- Dragonite breaks free of ice
- Dragonite rushes forward and uses Thunder Punch
- Beartic is down
The majority of Hoenn/Sinnoh battles would have had 20 bullets at least.
I just went back and rewatched Burgundy vs Ash, Iris and Cilan on Youtube... Against Ash and Iris she actually didn't too horribly. Dewott vs Excadrill is actually a decent battle. I wonder if they were just trying to make Trip seem like an unstoppable powerhouse the way they did with Paul at the Tag Battle Tournament and it just happened to be at Burgundy's expense... Still though, she's probably the worst character to choose for something like that considering she's never actually won anything.
Last edited by thunderblade12; 3rd August 2012 at 6:56 AM.
I don't think anyone cares the COTD battles were skipped, but I find it bizarre more time wasn't devoted to Dawn's battle. I mean she's only going to be around for a limited time and this was her only win in this tournament. Feels really strange to just treat Dawn like she was a random character.
Wow, so Dawn gets only one full battle...in which she loses. No matter how good her next match is, the fact that her only win is brushed over in 3 seconds and she is taking out as early as the second round makes you feel her inclusion was rather pointless.Besides, Dawn will be getting spotlight in the next episode. So why are you talking like that?
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May didn't win her match either. And, besides, if Dawn is sticking around for a while, maybe we'll get to see her battle again. I suspect we'll see Dawn vs. Ash right before she leaves.
It's more like:- Burgundy's fine in battling, but is too consumed by her hatred, craziness and obsession with besting Cilan to actually win.
But it's just here that we didn't get to experience that, instead Burgundy was fobbed off all so they could show how powerful Serperior is.
Everything I said, I was just trolling you all.