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    makes this whole unova trek almost useless, he hasnt won anything, i doubt he's gonna win the league coz he never does...just bad writters being bad is all there is to it, i cant hate on his character for lack of progress because its the writters that are dicking around this season...they should be fired and replaced with new writters..i've said this before they should have new writters for each generation so the writting doesnt get stale and repatitive..because this season they look like a bunch of idiots

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    Pikachu defeating Excadrill could have been very believable. All it would have taken was a few tactical planned out heavy Iron Tails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing View Post
    Please explain how it isn't believable. I don't see how anybody could blatantly come to that conclusion. Especially since Pikachu is stronger than the drill.
    Excadrill is immune to ALL electric type attacks, which means zero damage. And Excadrill resists iron tail since it's part steel type and iron tail is a steel type move. That leaves pikachu with only quick attack. Again, how is this believeable? Excadrill clearly overpowers the rat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thing View Post
    You mean like your comment above?

    Actually it's an assumption based on what the writers have been doing for the past 15 years.
    Ash winning the league has nothing to do with him leaving the show. Once again, you show nothing.
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    I don't really care. He's not weak and a tournament win would be pointless. I think the writers just wanted to focus on other characters like the supporting characters like Kenyan or Bianca then Ash for a little while. I just hopes he wins the Isshu League. :-D

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    he deserves it in my opinion
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    If pikachu can tie with a latios there's no reason why it cant beat excadrill. Just bad writers being bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    If pikachu can tie with a latios there's no reason why it cant beat excadrill. Just bad writers being bad.
    That's a whole new argument dude, with Unova's set power level for Pikachu it was believable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    Excadrill is immune to ALL electric type attacks, which means zero damage. And Excadrill resists iron tail since it's part steel type and iron tail is a steel type move. That leaves pikachu with only quick attack. Again, how is this believeable? Excadrill clearly overpowers the rat.
    - Excadrill had been out of practice for years until that point.
    - The rat is actually strong. The drill is average
    - Typing means crap. Ash used an untrained Roggenrola beat an Excadrill that's been with Clay since he was an ugly little boy.



    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    Ash winning the league has nothing to do with him leaving the show. Once again, you show nothing.
    I meant replace him as the main character. If he wins the pokemon league, someone else will have to collect badges.

    Quote Originally Posted by DMerle View Post
    That's a whole new argument dude, with Unova's set power level for Pikachu it was believable.
    There's no such thing as a "set" power level. Pikachu's just inconsistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing View Post
    There's no such thing as a "set" power level. Pikachu's just inconsistent.
    I would say there is from region to region, not across them of course.

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    This gen completely proves writers hate Satoshi!
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    Either way i'm just growing tired of how he is performing in this region. I hope after this he can gain enough experience to win but i seriously doubt that is the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by super-him2011 View Post
    This gen completely proves writers hate Satoshi
    That makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by super-him2011 View Post
    This gen completely proves writers hate you
    Fixed it for ya. The writers would never hate Satoshi. The boy has to win and lose sometimes.

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    The writers don't hate him, they just love glorifying trainers who really don't need to be glorified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing View Post
    Excadrill had been out of practice for years until that point.
    Being out of action doesn't take away someones's power. Excadrill had 99 wins prior to that and even if he did have some battle rust, it was taken care of when it battled Georgia's Beartic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thing View Post
    The rat is actually strong. The drill is average
    Pikachu is strong when the writers want him to be, but when it comes to him and Excadrill, Pikachu doesn't have much of a chance. Excadrill has too many things in its favor. It's immune to all electric types and it resists iron tail. Quick attack is all pikachu has.


    Quote Originally Posted by Thing View Post
    Typing means crap. Ash used an untrained Roggenrola beat an Excadrill that's been with Clay since he was an ugly little boy.
    That just shows Ash's convenience factor with his mid-battle evolutions. But either way Boldore won with Rock Smash, something Excadrill is weak against.

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    I meant replace him as the main character. If he wins the pokemon league, someone else will have to collect badges.
    This is nothing more than a made-up assumption. Try again!
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    They could of had him win one of them they should have let him win one, but truthfully I'm glad they gave one of the tournaments to Iris, despite my overall indifference towards the actual character. Ash has gyms, I know people want him to have more then just gym wins and he has like a hundred different gym badges, blah, blah, blah, but I was hoping these tournaments would focus more on the sidekicks and rivals then Ash. Ash has the entire show to himself and already has made lots of achievements that people seem to take lightly these days so why not give Iris, Cilan, Bianca, Trip, or a rival the tournament cup? It's not like they'll be around forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    Being out of action doesn't take away someones's power. Excadrill had 99 wins prior to that and even if he did have some battle rust, it was taken care of when it battled Georgia's Beartic.
    Pikachu has also had more than that.


    Pikachu is strong when the writers want him to be, but when it comes to him and Excadrill, Pikachu doesn't have much of a chance. Excadrill has too many things in its favor. It's immune to all electric types and it resists iron tail. Quick attack is all pikachu has.
    Which is still enough to win. Pikachu beat Electivire who resisted Iron Tail and was immune to Electric attacks. If he can do that, he can beat the drill.

    Still don't find it unbelieveable for Pikachu to win.


    That just shows Ash's convenience factor with his mid-battle evolutions. But either way Boldore won with Rock Smash, something Excadrill is weak against.
    There are other examples, you've seen them already.

    This is nothing more than a made-up assumption. Try again!
    No, you're just contradicting for the hell of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    Pikachu is strong when the writers want him to be, but when it comes to him and Excadrill, Pikachu doesn't have much of a chance. Excadrill has too many things in its favor. It's immune to all electric types and it resists iron tail. Quick attack is all pikachu has.
    Wtf. Quick Attack is just as bad as Iron Tail since Steel-types resists Normal-type attacks. I don't know why but I get the feeling Ash will win the Unova League.
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    It would have been nice to see Ash win at least 1 tournament, especially since it's not very likely he'll be winning the League.

    But since this saga has been so random, I wouldn't be surprised if this was all building up for a League win.

    Then everybody would cry tears of joy instead of crying about how much he sucks this region...


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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    Pikachu is strong when the writers want him to be, but when it comes to him and Excadrill, Pikachu doesn't have much of a chance. Excadrill has too many things in its favor. It's immune to all electric types and it resists iron tail. Quick attack is all pikachu has.
    I love how you're acting as if advantages and disadvantages matters in the anime, especially with your signature which completely defied logic in the first World Tournament episode. That alone is enough to show Pikachu's Iron Tails/Quick Attacks could have taken out Excadrill.

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