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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Quagsire View Post
    A 20 year old and a 16 year old together? Sure. A 30 year old and a 15 year old together? **** no. I don't think there's a debate in this at all.
    Why is the second scenario wrong? Is it the 15 year old or the 30 year old?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marioguy View Post
    Why is the second scenario wrong? Is it the 15 year old or the 30 year old?
    The 30 year old, unambiguously. With someone that much older or more, the 15 year old can feel like this person is an authority, and have much more trouble refusing them, even when they want to. It creates a toxic power dynamic in a relationship. I mean, I don't know the legal arguments in favor of statutory rape laws, but I know why I generally support them, and it's because of that power dynamic. Which, I might point out, applies to both male and females in either position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldManJenkins View Post
    Homosexuals say they are born attracted to people of the same sex. Pedophiles say they are born attracted to children. The pedophiles wonder why they are stigmatized and not allowed to be in a relationship with a child while the homosexuals parade around rubbing it in their faces. Same can be said for animal "lovers".

    EDIT: Also, who is to decide whether or not children can legally give consent? BTW Im disgusted by pedophilia and dont support pedophiles in any way but Im also disgusted by homosexuals and I dont support what they do either.
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    maybe someone can be born attracted to same sex/children/animals but i tend to doubt it.
    and i do not think that pedophillia should be tolerated
    as for homosexuals...i dont agree with them but i respect the fact that its their decision.
    heck the word pedophillia is the root word for pedifile (perv)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ansem the wise View Post
    as for homosexuals...i dont agree with them but i respect the fact that its their decision.
    Homosexuals don't decide to be homosexual.

    Quote Originally Posted by ansem the wise View Post
    heck the word pedophillia is the root word for pedifile (perv)
    Wrong again. Pedo means child. Phile means affection.

    For someone who pretends to be Sherlock Holmes, you sure don't know a lot of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marioguy View Post
    So you're saying we should keep tabs on all pedophiles so they don't turn into child molesters? Should we also keep tabs on all men to make sure that they don't become rapists?=
    Woah! Women commit rape too! Be precarious of Men's rights!

    Homosexuality is not a slippery slope that would lead to pedophilia being legalized. The big word that creates this distinction is consent. You can have consent with your same-gender partner, but a five year old is not defined as being self-sufficient enough (by your government's age of consent) to make sexual decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marioguy View Post
    Homosexuals don't decide to be homosexual.
    They kind of do. For all intents and purposes, they could leave a hetrosexual life. They just might not be happy

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    Pedophilia is wrong. What I don't understand is, why they call a 26 year old a pedophile when he/she is dating a 18-19 year old. No one complains when a 35 year old marries a 28 year old.


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    Should we also keep tabs on all men to make sure that they don't become rapists?=
    yeaaah women can rape as well. but no one kinda sees that since they are viewed as innocent these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilda View Post
    Pedophilia is wrong. What I don't understand is, why they call a 26 year old a pedophile when he/she is dating a 18-19 year old. No one complains when a 35 year old marries a 28 year old.
    Yeah. It's only a 7 year difference. There should be 14 year olds dating 7 year olds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marioguy View Post
    Yeah. It's only a 7 year difference. There should be 14 year olds dating 7 year olds.
    There are a lot of silly posts in this thread, but this is a ridiculous comparison. Two adults of differing ages dating is nothing like two children dating at vastly different ages. Two adults, even with a seven year difference, are at more similar developmental levels. The developmental levels in children with a seven year difference are vastly different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gothitelle K View Post
    yeaaah women can rape as well. but no one kinda sees that since they are viewed as innocent these days.
    It's not because women are viewed as innocent. I don't know how anyone can even say that when women who are raped are very often blamed. If you look at statistics, it's just not as common for women to rape men and a lot of rapes (regardless of the sex of the victim) go unreported. Statistically speaking, men are more likely to be raped by other men than they are by women. Women can rape men, of course. It's just not as common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marioguy View Post
    Homosexuals don't decide to be homosexual.

    Wrong again. Pedo means child. Phile means affection.

    For someone who pretends to be Sherlock Holmes, you sure don't know a lot of things.
    i added the perv part for those who didnt know what a pedifile was (duh)

    and yes they do have the choice to be homosexual.
    there is a huge difference between homosexual thoughts/fantasies and homosexual actions.

    the first they dont have control over the other they do.

    i will respect homosexuals just like a straight person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pesky Persian View Post
    There are a lot of silly posts in this thread, but this is a ridiculous comparison. Two adults of differing ages dating is nothing like two children dating at vastly different ages. Two adults, even with a seven year difference, are at more similar developmental levels. The developmental levels in children with a seven year difference are vastly different.
    I'm sorry that my sarcasm wasn't apparent to you. I intentionally used an extreme example, but that somehow didn't help.

    Quote Originally Posted by ansem the wise View Post
    i added the perv part for those who didnt know what a pedifile was (duh)

    and yes they do have the choice to be homosexual.
    there is a huge difference between homosexual thoughts/fantasies and homosexual actions.

    the first they dont have control over the other they do.

    i will respect homosexuals just like a straight person.
    Pedifile isn't a word though. I don't think you even know what homosexuality is. Having sex with someone with the same sex as you doesn't make you a homosexual. Being attracted to someone of the same sex as you makes you a homosexual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldManJenkins
    Homosexuals say they are born attracted to people of the same sex. Pedophiles say they are born attracted to children. The pedophiles wonder why they are stigmatized and not allowed to be in a relationship with a child while the homosexuals parade around rubbing it in their faces. Same can be said for animal "lovers".
    ... What? I am actually lost for words here. How do homosexuals "rub it in their faces" when homosexuality is still not fully accepted at all, and there are still a great many countries/states where marriage isn't legal? Can't understand how anybody could even form this opinion tbqh.

    EDIT: Also, who is to decide whether or not children can legally give consent?
    Children aren't mature enough to give consent or understand everything about sex. The brain still has a long way to develop at that point. Can you really expect any six-year-old to fully understand sex, relationships and everything that comes with it?

    It's stigmatised because it actually harms people. Homosexuality doesn't, which is way it has become/is becoming acceptable.

    Quote Originally Posted by ansem the wise
    there is a huge difference between homosexual thoughts/fantasies and homosexual actions.
    Quote Originally Posted by miles0624 View Post
    They kind of do. For all intents and purposes, they could leave a hetrosexual life. They just might not be happy
    That's not choosing to be gay, that's just not acting on it. If a gay man went celibate for the rest of his life it wouldn't make him any less homosexual, he'd still be attracted to the same sex and therefore gay. Likewise, a straight women could have sex with another woman and still be straight. It's the attraction that defines the sexuality, not the action.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilda View Post
    What I don't understand is, why they call a 26 year old a pedophile when he/she is dating a 18-19 year old.
    Nobody calls it that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marioguy View Post
    Pedifile isn't a word though.
    Yes it is. Pedophile - One affected with pedophilia . It very much is.

    Unless you're talking about his spelling, in which you should stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jb View Post
    Yes it is. Pedophile - One affected with pedophilia . It very much is.

    Unless you're talking about his spelling, in which you should stop.
    Stop? Read his original post again. He clearly stated that he thinks that pedophile and pedifile are two different words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marioguy View Post
    Stop? Read his original post again. He clearly stated that he thinks that pedophile and pedifile are two different words.
    Hm, I only read the post you replied to. On the topic of his, I'm not even sure where to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marioguy View Post
    Yeah. It's only a 7 year difference. There should be 14 year olds dating 7 year olds.
    7 year olds shouldn't be dating, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Quagsire View Post
    7 year olds shouldn't be dating, period.
    What about with other 7 year olds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marioguy View Post
    What about with other 7 year olds?
    Was dating something you considered doing when you were 7? That's pretty much your answer right there
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    Quote Originally Posted by marioguy View Post
    I'm sorry that my sarcasm wasn't apparent to you. I intentionally used an extreme example, but that somehow didn't help.
    I caught the sarcasm. It was your intent that wasn't apparent. It seemed to me that you were expressing that a seven year age difference in adults is somehow wrong and used a more extreme example to illustrate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldManJenkins View Post
    Homosexuals say they are born attracted to people of the same sex. Pedophiles say they are born attracted to children. The pedophiles wonder why they are stigmatized and not allowed to be in a relationship with a child while the homosexuals parade around rubbing it in their faces. Same can be said for animal "lovers".

    EDIT: Also, who is to decide whether or not children can legally give consent? BTW Im disgusted by pedophilia and dont support pedophiles in any way but Im also disgusted by homosexuals and I dont support what they do either.
    If you think homosexuals celebrating the fact that they are slowly being accepted into society and may now be proud to be who they are are only doing so to "rub it in their faces," you have a lot to learn.

    Children cannot give consent because they are children. Try having an intellectual conversation with a child. See how much a they would understand a complex concept that would affect them deeply. Do you ever wonder why children can't vote? I mean really. :/


    Quote Originally Posted by miles0624 View Post
    They kind of do. For all intents and purposes, they could leave a hetrosexual life. They just might not be happy
    No, choosing your sexuality literally means choosing who you are attracted to. This is not possible. If it was, then you should prove it by changing your own sexual orientation and telling us about it.

    Choosing your lifestyle literally means choosing how you live. You can still be gay and live as if you were straight, but that doesn't actually mean you are straight now. For instance, I can choose to live the remainder of my life as a nun. That does not suddenly mean by orientation/desires have magically changed.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hilda View Post
    Pedophilia is wrong. What I don't understand is, why they call a 26 year old a pedophile when he/she is dating a 18-19 year old. No one complains when a 35 year old marries a 28 year old.
    Learn to read, please; pedophilia includes an adult and a child, and a 18/19-year-old is not a child.

    Also, a 28-year-old and 35-year-old are both adults. They both are able to give informed consent. A child cannot.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gothitelle K View Post
    yeaaah women can rape as well. but no one kinda sees that since they are viewed as innocent these days.
    marioguy was being sarcastic. This isn't the thread to have this discussion.


    Quote Originally Posted by ansem the wise View Post
    i added the perv part for those who didnt know what a pedifile was (duh)
    Not only do people in this thread already know what a pedophile is (and know how to spell it correctly), but "pedophile" does not literally mean "pervert." You may want to learn these things if you want to be taken seriously in this discussion.

    Quote Originally Posted by ansem the wise View Post
    and yes they do have the choice to be homosexual.
    there is a huge difference between homosexual thoughts/fantasies and homosexual actions.

    the first they dont have control over the other they do.
    Being homosexual means being attracted to members of the same sex. It's the same thing. You are heterosexual: that means you are attracted to members of the opposite sex.

    Living as a homosexual isn't the same thing and being one. If you are a homosexual and life as a homosexual, it essentially means you're not hiding who you are and you are free to act on your desires, just as for you, living as a heterosexual means not hiding who are and being free to act on your desires.

    Seriously, you need to understand these things if you want to participate and be taken seriously in these debates.


    Anyhow, it really seems that few people have anything to say about pedophilia in and of itself (especially without confusing it with hebephilia ephebophilia). If everyone can't stay on topic, I am ready to close this thread.

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    Technically, pedophilia is a foot fetish. Thought you'd like to know.

    Now for my two cents.

    Pedophilia is unacceptable, no matter what the situation. I do believe that anyone who has intercourse of even looks at child pornography deserves to be punished severely. It's disgusting. Can't you find someone your own age to perform intercourse with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klizcool View Post
    Technically, pedophilia is a foot fetish. Thought you'd like to know.
    Google says a foot fetish is podophilia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Klizcool View Post
    Pedophilia is unacceptable, no matter what the situation. I do believe that anyone who has intercourse of even looks at child pornography deserves to be punished severely. It's disgusting. Can't you find someone your own age to perform intercourse with?
    Out of curiosity, though this topic has already been brought up, what do you then think of those who are attracted to children but don't act on their desires?



    And another topic: can a pedophile ever be taken off the registered sex offender listing? Would this be acceptable if they've been through extensive therapy? How much is enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychic View Post
    Out of curiosity, though this topic has already been brought up, what do you then think of those who are attracted to children but don't act on their desires?
    That's slightly different. But in my belief, while you still have somewhat of a problem, you are somewhat in control of the problem. That shows that you are an "average" human. But you are subject to succumbing to these desires if you lose self control due to intoxication or other means.

    I use the word average in quotes mainly because everyone is different.

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    Pedophiles have the same "I was born liking ____" argument as the homosexuals. I still think pedophilia is a terrible thing and Im not too fond of homosexuals either. But homosexuals dont hurt anyone with what they do while pedophiles obviously do.

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