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    Hello Serebi it's been a while since I've posted a RMT, and after winning the bw2 tourney with my team i thought this is the perfect time to show everyone my team and maybe improve it. This team was built by me and my tutor [Skynet] When bw2 first come out everyone was using rain and I wanted to be different and use sand, my team does not need a spinner because with speed I can beat most pokemon anyway. Gilscor is one of the best sand abusers ever because of it's ability Sand Veil, by setting it up i can sweep and around 3 because they may miss if sand is up.


    Team Building Process





    We start off with Tyranitar for the sand, we go with a mix set with focus sash.



    I said I wanted to abuse sand so i decided on Gliscor to do the job and went with the acro set which i really like because of sand veil. :P



    I needed something to keep Poiltoad from getting rain in so Keldeo was there to set up and scare it away so I can keep sand up.


    Jirachi is here to sweep with Iron Head while pokemon who get hurt by sand take even more damage, I went with a Choice Scarf set for max speed to beat fast pokemon.



    Terrakion is a perfect sweeper to use in sand, I went with the Choice Band set to do max damage and to hurt Gilscor and Skarmory and any other bulky pokemon.



    Salamence is my sweeper once I have dealt with all the steel pokemon, I went with the choice scarf Moxie set so I can out speed pokemon such as torn and ko them while Moxie raises my attack each time I beat a pokemon.


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    Tyranitar (F) @ Focus Sash
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 192 Atk / 252 Speed,64 Sp Atk
    Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
    - Superpower
    - Crunch
    - Fire Blast
    - Stealth Rock

    With the mixed set of Tyranitar not only can it stand its ground it can trick Scizor by using Fire Blast instead of switching, Scizor will try use U Turn on Tyranitar but Fire Blast will give them beat them and that will deal with one steel pokemon so Salamence can sweep. With Focus Sash it can deal with Lucario and Terrakion as long as the foe does not have a weather user such as Poiltaod then we can use Superpower to kill them in one while surviving Close Combat , if they do, then we have to switch to keep Tyranitar alive. Crunch is a very useful move then the foe is using Jeillcent since it can be a real pain to my team, Stealth Rock is one of the best moves since it hurts pokemon when they switch in and ruins Dragonites Muiltiscale ability and it ruins other Focus Sash users, it also helps Salamence kill torn with one outrage hit and makes Salamence job easy to set up Moxie. The nature of Tyranitar is Hasty because out speed a lot of pokemon while doing as much damage as possible.



    Gliscor (M) @ Flying Gem
    Trait: Sand Veil
    EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Acrobatics
    - Earthquake
    - Substitute

    Gliscor is one of my main sweepers on my team. Thanks to Sand Veil we can go into a Substitute, with a bit of luck we can set up Sword Dance and start sweeping, I have encounted a lots of battles where Sand Veil has cost someone the game, some say it's hax, but it's just like Jirachis ability. With Flying Gem I can ko a lot of pokemon like Latios, Torn and Thun it also can do a lot of damage to some water pokemon and not forgetting the STAB bonus for Acrobatics, Earthquake can be very useful when a flying pokemon uses Roost we can use Earthquake to get a super effictive hit in and helps me deal with Jirachi and Ninetails to stop sun from being up , It can also be used to prevent Iron Barbs from Ferrothorn from hurting me when Ferrothorn is on low health. The evds are kind of standard, but I use 40 hp just to make sure I can survive a strong hit. Here is an example of Gilscor power without setting up Sword Dance Gliscor used Acrobatics!
    Gliscor's Flying Gem raised Acrobatics's power!
    The foe's Politoed lost 100% of its health!
    The foe's Politoed fainted!
    now not all Poiltoads will die in one because some may have hp evds and def but this one never so it shows how strong and usful Gilscor can be.




    Keldeo @ Leftovers
    Trait: Justified
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Hidden Power [Ghost]
    - Secret Sword
    - Hydro Pump

    Keldeo is here to scare water pokemon away with Secret Sword, with Hideen Power Ghost I am able to hit Jellicent which is a real pain to my team, I never wanted Hidden Power Ice because a quick switch to Jirachi will deal with dragons since it out speeds them, I went with the Calm Mind set so I can sweep a few pokemon or just dish out as much damage as I can and to take Sp Atk hits, Hydropump is really strong even against water so I can abuse rain with it, i can also take out Ferrothorn with Secret Sword while hurting other pokemon which resist Hydropump. I went with modest because I don't really need to out speed any pokemon because I would switch if torn or thun came in.



    Jirachi @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
    - Iron Head
    - Fire Punch
    - Thunder
    - Trick

    Jirachi is the star of my team it beats dragons, torn or any other pokemon which does not resist Iron Head, I went with a Choice Scarf set because I want to sweep with Iron Head and stop Choice Scarf abusers such as Salamence, Fire Punch is used to deal with steel types which resist Iron Head once all steel pokemon are gone then I have Jirachi and Salamence to sweep the rest of the pokemon, Thunder is used to beat Poiltoad, Skarmory when rain is up and can par a pokemon which could help later on in the game, Trick is used to deal with stall pokemon or pokemon trying to set up Calm Mind, I don't really use Trick often because I can deal with stall with Keldeo and Gilscor unless they have Roar to stop Gilscor from setting up.




    Terrakion @ Choice Band
    Trait: Justified
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Quick Attack
    - Close Combat
    - Stone Edge
    - Earthquake/ X-Scissor

    Terrakion is not Choiced Scarfed because I want it to so max damage by using Choice Band, with Choice Band do a lot of damage to Skarmory and Gilscor and do a lot of damage to stall type pokemon, Quick Attack is used to deal fast pokemon with low hp and with Choice Band I can make sure it kills the low hp pokemon. Close Combat is used to sweep pokemon and beat steel types to let Jirachi and Salamence sweep, combined with Choice Band this pokemon becomes a real threat to the foe unless there is a faster pokemon than it but because of Jirachi and Salamence I can make sure I will deal with those fast pokemon, Stone Edge is used to beat dragons and Gilscor, it can also ko a Jellicent in 2 hits, Earthquake is a filler move but i can use it to beat any pokemon weakness Earthquake such as toxicroak which resist my other moves. I made Terrakion Jolly because I want to out speed some pokemon but I also want to dish out a lot of damage too.




    Salamence (F) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Moxie
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Outrage
    - Earthquake
    - Crunch
    - Fire Blast

    Salamence is the king of sweepers when all steel and stall pokemon are gone I can sweep pokemon by using Outrage which can kill a lot of pokemon in one and with Moxie making it stronger every time it kills a pokemon it very makes it hard for people to get the victory over me unless they have Ice Shard, I went with the normal Choice Scarf set with Fire Blast to beat Ferrothorn and other steel pokemon which have not been taken care off, Earthquake and Crunch are used to deal with low hp pokemon or even pokemon weakness the moves so I don't get locked into Outrage when there are steel pokemon to beat Salamence.


    Closing
    This team has been real good for me sweeping lots of people and have won me the BW2 tourney and has did very well in ladder, this team has problems with stall sometimes which can be really hard to deal with but it is a successful team and a good sand team in BW2. Due to building other teams for tourneys I was unable to keep laddering with this team to get higher.


    Thanks to my great tutor Skynet for helping me build the team and understand it more and thanks to those people who help me test it.
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    Good looking team there. I must say a few things:

    Why have you got Adamant on T-Tar with Fire Blast? But I can't question it if it works for you.

    Also, use X-Scissor over Earthquake on Terrakion as it allows you to nail Slowbro.

    Other than that, I have no qualms with your team. Good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AquaRegisteel View Post
    Good looking team there. I must say a few things:

    Why have you got Adamant on T-Tar with Fire Blast? But I can't question it if it works for you.

    Also, use X-Scissor over Earthquake on Terrakion as it allows you to nail Slowbro.

    Other than that, I have no qualms with your team. Good job.
    Thanks yeah I should use X Scissor but not seen Slowbro for ages but I put it on anyway thanks again.

    I have no choice I don't want to lower my sp def and def because I need them to take hits, and Fire Blast never really gets used anymore because scizor is not getting used as much.
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    hey rairyan, i know i'm not much of a team rater, BUT i do think you have too many pokemon that are choiced. in certain situations, walls call lol, wall you out with using the choice items to their advantage. so 3 pokemon with a choice item is too much, keep salamence, i love the scarf set for it, and terrakion is fine with a choice band, so i reccomend taking out jirachi's choice scarf. you talked about it being for mences, let your own mence outrage them. you also said trick is for stall, but you don't use it often because you can stall with keldeo or gliscor. so i recommend switching choice scarf on jirachi for smething else. i hope you get my pojnt



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    Quote Originally Posted by Skamory7 View Post
    hey rairyan, i know i'm not much of a team rater, BUT i do think you have too many pokemon that are choiced. in certain situations, walls call lol, wall you out with using the choice items to their advantage. so 3 pokemon with a choice item is too much, keep salamence, i love the scarf set for it, and terrakion is fine with a choice band, so i reccomend taking out jirachi's choice scarf. you talked about it being for mences, let your own mence outrage them. you also said trick is for stall, but you don't use it often because you can stall with keldeo or gliscor. so i recommend switching choice scarf on jirachi for smething else. i hope you get my pojnt
    all 3 of the pokes need Choice items to play their part in the team and Jirachi would be the last pokemon I woild take choice of because it sweeps so much.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rairyan View Post
    all 3 of the pokes need Choice items to play their part in the team and Jirachi would be the last pokemon I woild take choice of because it sweeps so much.
    I'm just saying, i have bad experiences with too many choice users on one team



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    Quote Originally Posted by Skamory7 View Post
    I'm just saying, i have bad experiences with too many choice users on one team
    i know but this team works with 3 choice items



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rairyan View Post
    i know but this team works with 3 choice items
    oh yeah. i tested the team out today, it works great. and the choice was my only back, so thats why i said. its from my actual experience, so just sayin. but if it works for you, its fine



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    This is a good team, I must say. You have worked out the standards well, and different types in OU will not be trouble. Thoigh, X-Scissor is a better move than Earthquake for Terrakion. I can see why Quick Attack is on there, but you moght just be able to sweep them out before the use of it. I make a team and sweep, sweep, sweep. I hardly give weather teams a try. xD
    Good twam, tho. Keep up the good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SapphireBlueEyes7799 View Post
    This is a good team, I must say. You have worked out the standards well, and different types in OU will not be trouble. Thoigh, X-Scissor is a better move than Earthquake for Terrakion. I can see why Quick Attack is on there, but you moght just be able to sweep them out before the use of it. I make a team and sweep, sweep, sweep. I hardly give weather teams a try. xD
    Good twam, tho. Keep up the good work!
    Thanks for the rate.



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    not much to say, looks solid, maybe a defensive wall could help but your team appears to have strong offensive syenergy. Mamoswine and donphan can be threats with ground stab and shard but thats really it, nice team



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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdanger View Post
    not much to say, looks solid, maybe a defensive wall could help but your team appears to have strong offensive syenergy. Mamoswine and donphan can be threats with ground stab and shard but thats really it, nice team
    Thanks dophan always gets beaten by keldoe and mano well i use iron head to deal with it and if sr is down then yeah it's easy to play around to kill it.



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    This team looks solid maybe in some case you could switch to a spinner to help out with all of the hazards out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by woebegonenick View Post
    This team looks solid maybe in some case you could switch to a spinner to help out with all of the hazards out there
    well i did have starmie at 1 point but then i noticed i dont really need it because i wont let ppl set up



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    Ah yes, spinner. I suggest Forretress. He can learn ALL the hazards, and Rapid spin. Plus his defenses are high, and he's steel, so Toxic Spikes won't affect him and Stealth Rock/Spikes won't do much damage. Foretress is the best spinner & hazard pokemon.

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    Its a solid team Rai, I had a blast making it with you! The only spinners that would suit this team are Starmie or Sandslash.

    Well done on winning the tourney, was a great way of retiring this team!

    Edit: I forgot to rate it! I'll give it a 9/10 o:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcatraz View Post
    Its a solid team Rai, I had a blast making it with you! The only spinners that would suit this team are Starmie or Sandslash.

    Well done on winning the tourney, was a great way of retiring this team!

    Edit: I forgot to rate it! I'll give it a 9/10 o:
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    icy wind on keldeo over hp grass...not hp ice either, u'll loose that speed tie with rakkion and the rare virizion...othere than that...solid team!

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    Quote Originally Posted by albyness View Post
    icy wind on keldeo over hp grass...not hp ice either, u'll loose that speed tie with rakkion and the rare virizion...othere than that...solid team!
    Thanks but if I lose hp grass jellient will be the biggest pain to my team and iicy wind won't do much to anything which could benefit my team since salamence and jirachi will out speed dragons and torn t and thun t and land



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    I have found that when using a Gliscor with the sand veil set sand attack helps me out more then substitute. Gliscor has enough speed and attack after one swords dance that the extra insurance from subs doesn't end up mattering. Its a trade off of safety for an even more unstoppable Gliscor that ruins even strong attackers. Just my own personal note. Other then that this team looks great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoteLobo View Post
    I have found that when using a Gliscor with the sand veil set sand attack helps me out more then substitute. Gliscor has enough speed and attack after one swords dance that the extra insurance from subs doesn't end up mattering. Its a trade off of safety for an even more unstoppable Gliscor that ruins even strong attackers. Just my own personal note. Other then that this team looks great.
    Thanks I like sub better because helps me a lot but i do get what you mean.



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    oh yeah, one other thing i noticed. if keldeo is ko'ed, my spread vaporeon(other people use it too, its a common homemade set, lol), can completely wall your team, even that mence, with the ev spread for vapo i have in mind, it can. also, if keldeo gets out, hippowdon can wall your team, maybe even gliscor's boosted acrobatics, and slack it off. and with proper moves and spreads, a hippowdon with slack off can wall it. so watch out for that, if that helps. and oh yeah, 9/10 rating



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    Quote Originally Posted by Skamory7 View Post
    oh yeah, one other thing i noticed. if keldeo is ko'ed, my spread vaporeon(other people use it too, its a common homemade set, lol), can completely wall your team, even that mence, with the ev spread for vapo i have in mind, it can. also, if keldeo gets out, hippowdon can wall your team, maybe even gliscor's boosted acrobatics, and slack it off. and with proper moves and spreads, a hippowdon with slack off can wall it. so watch out for that, if that helps. and oh yeah, 9/10 rating
    well you see if you know a pokemon will wall your team or cause trouble you keep the pokemon the beat it alive no matter what also terra choice band close combat can hurt vaporeon a lot now i am guessing your using the rest set? if so then i just keep sand to stop you from healing, also if i hit thunder with jirachi and par vap then i can rely on par to help me beat it.


    also sonic if ur not going rate the team don't bother commenting on my rmt.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rairyan View Post
    well you see if you know a pokemon will wall your team or cause trouble you keep the pokemon the beat it alive no matter what also terra choice band close combat can hurt vaporeon a lot now i am guessing your using the rest set? if so then i just keep sand to stop you from healing, also if i hit thunder with jirachi and par vap then i can rely on par to help me beat it.


    also sonic if ur not going rate the team don't bother commenting on my rmt.
    But te opponents goal is to take ted counters to their vapo and powdon out and if they do that's what I'm saying. And no I run a harder set that rest



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    Quote Originally Posted by Skamory7 View Post
    But te opponents goal is to take ted counters to their vapo and powdon out and if they do that's what I'm saying. And no I run a harder set that rest
    well there struggle to get me to being keldoe into the fight and only time i would bring it out is when i know i can beat tht poke and if they switch then so will I plus if i have sr down there going get hurt while trying to get me to bring it out also if you set is wish and protect i can predict that you will use protect and use sword dance on gilscor then use arco or i could even sub and i dont see vap at all anymore and if i do it's the rest and rain set



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