Yes, it has to switch in.
5) You must be able to switch in and win 70% of the time or better.
Yes, it has to switch in.
5) You must be able to switch in and win 70% of the time or better.
EVEN with 0 EVs...
0 SpAtk Chandelure Shadow Ball vs 0 HP/0 SpDef Chandelure: 100% - 118.39% (Guaranteed OHKO)
252 SpAtk Chandelure (+SpAtk) Shadow Ball vs 0 HP/0 SpDef Blastoise: 50.17% - 59.2% (2 hits to KO)
blastoise is not a counter.
Edit oh wait... lol
252 SpAtk Chandelure (+SpAtk) Shadow Ball vs 252 HP/252 SpDef Blastoise (+SpDef) : 30.11% - 35.64% (3-4 hits to KO)
yep it is a counter.
Well.. I wanted to make a naruto referense I uess that was a bad joke mm.. well then ninetails beat sasuke?
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Blastoise is not 0/0, it is 252/252 Calm. It is 3-4HKOed and OHKOs back with Water gem Surf. It is a fine counter.
oh nvm..
I though I pressed that sp.def button I will look more carefully on those calculations next time.
anyway
uncretivity cause I don't want to be ninja'd
ferrothorn @leftovers
Careful
252 HP 176 sp.defense, 80 defense
-leech seed
-protect
-subtitute
-power whip
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And we're back at Chandelure.
Chandelure@Kasib Berry
252SAtk/252SDef/4Spe
Calm
Flash Fire
-Shadow Ball
-Fire Blast
-Energy Ball
-Hidden Power Fighting
Will-O-Wisp and Pain Split don't affect Chandelure. Haze...nothing. Shadow ball will hit dealing 29% (max damage) because of Kasib Berry. Let's assume that's the switch in. Shadow Ball from Chandelure deals 85% if we do the lowest amount. Another Shadow Ball which deals 58% (max damage) and Chandelure KOs next turn.
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Snorlax @ Dark Gem
Adamant
252 Special Defense / 252 Attack / 4 HP
Thick Fat
Crunch
Selfdestruct
Fire Punch
Earthquake
I haven't done any calculations because I'm lazy, but I assume this works.
Chandelure's HP Fighting 4KOs while Crunch OHKOes 81% of the time if anyone doubts Snorlax's awesomeness.
Sableye@Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/252 Def
Prankster
-Will-o-Wisp
-Recover
-Night Shade
-Torment
Dark Gem Crunch+ 2 Earthquakes only 3KO, but by then you'll be burned and I stall you to death.
Xatu @ Leftovers
Trait: Magic Bounce
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Roost
- FeatherDance
- Psychic
- Night Shade
Roost + Magic Bounce beats everything Sableye can throw at it (besides something stupid and impossible, like a Night Shade crit).
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Blissey@LeftoversOriginally Posted by jesusfreak94
252HP/252SDef/4Def
Calm
Natural Cure
-Seismic Toss
-Ice Beam
-Soft Boil
-Toxic
Night Shade can't land in a crit.Originally Posted by jesusfreak94
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Cresselia @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
Bold Nature
- Psyshock
- Ice Beam
- Moonlight
- Toxic
Terrakion who?
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Heatran @ Air Balloon
Modest
4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
Flash Fire
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Protect
Switches in, 1hko's with Fire Blast.
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First hit: 252 SpAtk Life Orb Moltres (+SpAtk) Hidden Power Fighting vs 0 HP/0 SpDef Chople Berry Rhyperior: 46.36% - 54.45% (2-3 hits to KO)
second hit: 252 SpAtk Life Orb Moltres (+SpAtk) Hidden Power Fighting vs 0 HP/0 SpDef Rhyperior: 92.72% - 108.89% (56.25% chance to OHKO)
A 2HKO 100% of the time and moltres is faster- not a counter.
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Lanturn @leftovers
Calm 252 HP, 252 sp.defense
Volt Absorb
-Hydro Pump
-Toxic
-protect
-thuderbolt
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Sniff, I can't believe I'm gonna counter my favourite pokemon...
Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Careful (+Sp.Def -Def)
252 sp.defense/252 hp/ 4 attack
- Power Whip
- Sword Dance
- Toxic
- Protect
Resists everything Lanturn has. Immune to Hydro Pump, Toxic and Thunderbolt. Meanwhile, Ferrothorn boosts it's medicore attack with a few sword dance. Then comes in power whip. Or it can go with toxic, protect and stalling while wearing lanturn down...
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I was instantly gonna go : Oh heatran! Then i read your challenge part... *rage* Wonder if this can be a counter?
Tyranitar@Leftovers
Unnerve
252 def/252 atk/4 spd
Careful (+sp def - sp atk)
-Stone Edge
-Ice Punch
-Protect
-Taunt
Eat your lum barries now Dragonite! Taunt prevents Dnite from setting up. So during your nice little rampage, I'll stall a turn with protect. Once you're done, ice punch up. Then ice punch. Then woo
Is this even a good counter?
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Lucario@choice specs
Inner focus
4 def 252 sp atk 252 speed
Timid
-Aura sphere
-dark pulse
-vacuum wave
-dragon pulse
Without sand, tyranitar loses most of its special bulk and becomes vulnerable to this feller here. Aura sphere will likely ohko tyranitar while Vacuum wave can quickly hurt it. It is also incredible on defense, quad-resisting both moves.
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