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    Nope.

    Staraptor @ Lum Berry
    Ability: Intimidate
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/252 Speed/4 Atk
    - Quick Attack
    - Brave Bird
    - Roost
    - Close Combat

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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanicLanturn View Post
    Nope.

    Staraptor @ Lum Berry
    Ability: Intimidate
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/252 Speed/4 Atk
    - Quick Attack
    - Brave Bird
    - Roost
    - Close Combat
    How much recoil does it take from Brave Birding a Substitute?

    I'll have to go check that out...
    Edit: Eh, not that much. But I'd still think both would faint as a result.
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    Right, Staraptor has to die somehow:

    Rotom @ Choice Specs
    252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Spe
    Timid Nature
    {Levitate}
    - Thunderbolt
    - Shadow Ball
    - Hidden Power Fire
    - Trick

    (shoot, max hp still takes 49.01% max D=)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AquaRegisteel View Post
    Right, Staraptor has to die somehow:

    Rotom @ Choice Specs
    252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Spe
    Timid Nature
    {Levitate}
    - Thunderbolt
    - Shadow Ball
    - Hidden Power Fire
    - Trick

    (shoot, max hp still takes 49.01% max D=)
    Are we on Staraptor or Breloom? If the former, I'm thinking of changing Drill Peck > Brave Bird so I can actually counter it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    How much recoil does it take from Brave Birding a Substitute?

    I'll have to go check that out...
    Edit: Eh, not that much. But I'd still think both would faint as a result.
    Yes, but it won't much matter.

    Quote Originally Posted by OceanicLanturn View Post
    Are we on Staraptor or Breloom? If the former, I'm thinking of changing Drill Peck > Brave Bird so I can actually counter it.
    i'm not quite sure about that. breloom i think.

    The scenario that's playing out in my head goes as follows:
    turn 1: staraptor switch in, loom spores.
    turn 2: loom focus punch, staraptor takes 77-99% of damage even with loom at -1.
    turn 3: definitely the kicker. here, staraptor has a 50% chance to wake up. if it does, it's gg for loom. however, 50% chance to win isn't the rule, it's 75% chance. basically, raptor doesn't wake up and thus dies.

    There's a few different scenarios, too. However, it revolves around that 50% chance to wake up, so it's not enough. spore on the switch in is what makes loom tough to beat.

    so to answer oceaniclanturn's question, we're on breloom still, because darn that thing.

    Ok, taunt goes through sub, so that's fun.
    banette @ ghost gem (couldn't use focus sash so i picked a random item)
    brave nature, ability = insomnia
    252 atk; 0 ivs in hp, def, spdef, spd
    -taunt
    -trick room
    -destiny bond
    -shadow claw
    forces loom to set up seeds and sub on first 2 turns. banette can come in and use taunt or trick room turn 2, taunt/trick room turn 3, and then proceed to break looms sub and 2hko with shadow claw.

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    Any normal type @stick
    Gentle
    252hp 252spe
    -****
    -masturbate
    -t-bolt
    -toxic
    Destiney bond doesn't work to counter, as you die too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosts of the Forums View Post
    Any normal type @stick
    Gentle
    252hp 252spe
    -****
    -masturbate
    -t-bolt
    -toxic
    Destiney bond doesn't work to counter, as you die too.
    sorry to brust your bubble but destiny bond hits normals



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    But it isn't a counter. If you die, it doesn't count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosts of the Forums View Post
    But it isn't a counter. If you die, it doesn't count.
    Doesn't matter. Breloom can't touch banette with an attack, so it kinda makes destiny bond pointless.

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    3) Self KO clause is in effect. If you KO your opponent through Destiny Bond, Explosion, Brave Bird or whatever and then faint yourself, you lose.



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    Okay, I added two new rules to the OP. The first is that Destiny Bond is now banned. If I remember right, some weird Destiny Bond Drifblim set was the reason that the thread got shut down a couple rounds ago or something. That Banette is also pretty hard to beat without running Mental Herb stuff or whatever. At least you can get past Explosion with a Normal resistant/immune Pokemon.

    The other rule is no more troll sets. Weird stuff is okay as long as it has a purpose to it, but no more of these pitiful Pokemon with pointless items and stupid moves.

    For the moment, let's just go back to Banette and pretend it didn't have Destiny Bond.

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    Okey.

    Kangaskhan @Choice Band
    Jolly
    Scrappy
    252atk 252spe
    -Double Edge
    -Superpower (if he can't learn this please count it as drain punch)
    -Ice Punch
    -Fire Punch

    I predict Gyrados.
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    Crustle @ Choice Band
    224 Hp / 252 Def / 32 SpD
    Impish
    -Stone Edge
    -X-Scissor
    -Spikes
    -Stealth Rock

    Not giving into your Gyarados speculation. Ha! You 4HKO me while I 2HKO me giving me some lee way with a miss. Word.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauntershadow92 View Post
    Crustle @ Choice Band
    224 Hp / 252 Def / 32 SpD
    Impish
    -Stone Edge
    -X-Scissor
    -Spikes
    -Stealth Rock

    Not giving into your Gyarados speculation. Ha! You 4HKO me while I 2HKO me giving me some lee way with a miss. Word.
    Hazards don't work.

    Cobalion @Choice Scarf
    naughtty
    252atk 252sp.atk 4spe
    Justified
    -Close Cmbat
    -Iron Head
    -Hp Ice
    -Volt Switch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosts of the Forums View Post
    Cobalion @Choice Scarf
    naughtty
    252atk 252sp.atk 4spe
    Justified
    -Close Cmbat
    -Iron Head
    -Hp Ice
    -Volt Switch
    Volcarona@life orb
    252sp.att/252spe
    modest
    flame body
    -Fire blast
    -quiver dance
    -Hp Ice
    -Bug Buzz

    Extra challenge: No heatran
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    Edit: For Volcarona:

    Gyarados @ Leftovers
    252 Hp / 252 SpDef / 4 Def
    Impish / Intimidate
    -Rest
    -Sleep Talk
    -Stone Edge
    -Waterfall




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    Ferrothorn @ Rocky Helmet
    Ability: Iron Barba
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/252Def/4Atk
    0 Spe IVs
    - Gyro Ball
    - Leech Seed
    - Bulldoze
    - Power Whip

    Challenge: No balloon tran

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    moltres@choice specs
    Ability: pressure
    Nature: modest
    EVs: 252 HP/252sp attack/2def
    - hurricane
    - fire blast
    - hyperbeam
    - hidden power fighting

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    Aerodactyl@choice band
    Adamant
    252att/252spe
    Pressure
    -stone edge
    -Earthquake
    -Fire fang
    -Thunder fang
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    Donphan @ Life Orb
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
    Adamant Nature
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -Ice Shard
    -Fire Fang

    Survives 2 Earthquakes with ~20% left and OHKOs with Stone Edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesusfreak94 View Post
    Donphan @ Life Orb
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
    Adamant Nature
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -Ice Shard
    -Fire Fang

    Survives 2 Earthquakes with ~20% left and OHKOs with Stone Edge.
    keldeo @ life orb
    timid nature, justified ability
    252 sp atk/252 speed/4 hp
    -hydro pump
    -hp ghost
    -icy wind
    -secret sword
    Sturdy gets broken by the life orb and keld kos with dat big hydro pump.

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    Latias@ Leftovers
    Timid
    252 HP/252 Speed/4 sp attack
    Calm Mind
    Psyshock
    Surf
    HP Fire

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    Latios@ choice specs
    modest
    252 sp attack/252 Speed/4 hp
    draco meteor
    Psyshock
    Surf
    HP Fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiderman123 View Post
    Latios@ choice specs
    modest
    252 sp attack/252 Speed/4 hp
    draco meteor
    Psyshock
    Surf
    HP Fire
    Tyranitar @ Choice Scarf
    Sand stream
    Jolly
    4 hp/ 252 atk/ 252 spd
    Crunch
    Super power
    Ice punch
    Stone edge

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    Conkeldurr @ Flame Orb
    Ability: Guts
    Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
    - Drain Punch
    - Mach Punch
    - Ice Punch
    - Payback

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