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  1. 5th February 2013, 4:17 AM #601
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosts of the Forums View Post
    I hit Cofa on the switch with pursuit. My ability changes to mummy.

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    56Atk Slaking (Neutral) Return vs 252HP/252Def Leftovers Breloom (+Def): 44% - 52% (144 - 169 HP). Guaranteed 3HKO.
    0Atk Technician Breloom (Neutral) Mach Punch vs 252HP/0Def Leftovers Slaking (Neutral): 32% - 38% (164 - 194 HP). Guaranteed 4HKO.


    This next one is loom without technician, which happens when you hit me.


    0Atk Breloom (Neutral) Mach Punch vs 252HP/0Def Leftovers Slaking (Neutral): 21% - 26% (110 - 132 HP). Guaranteed 5HKO.

    Well, I don't got lefties, but you get the point.
    I have 252 Atk evs... and what about low sweep???


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    Sorry, I read it as 252hp.

    Edit, for pinsir:

    Dragonite @Choice Band
    Multiscale
    Naughty
    252atk 160hp 96sp.atk
    -Outrage
    -Superpower
    -ExtremeSpeed
    -Fire Blast
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    Rhyperior@Leftovers
    Trait: Solid Rock
    Nature: Adamant
    EVS: 252 Atk; 252 Def; 4 SpDef
    -Stone Edge
    -Ice Punch
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Blast

    I believe this would work...


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    bronzong@choice band
    brave
    levitate
    252 hp/252 attack
    evs: 0 speed
    -gyro ball
    -earthquake
    -zen headbutt




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    Quote Originally Posted by justinjiaxinghu View Post
    Rhyperior@Leftovers
    Trait: Solid Rock
    Nature: Adamant
    EVS: 252 Atk; 252 Def; 4 SpDef
    -Stone Edge
    -Ice Punch
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Blast

    I believe this would work...
    Choice Band Outrage 2HKOs. Not a counter.

    The Pokemon to counter is still Dragonite!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosts of the Forums View Post
    Sorry, I read it as 252hp.

    Edit, for pinsir:

    Dragonite @Choice Band
    Multiscale
    Naughty
    252atk 160hp 96sp.atk
    -Outrage
    -Superpower
    -ExtremeSpeed
    -Fire Blast

    Bronzong @ Leftovers
    252 Hp / 84 Atk / 80 Def / 92 SpDef
    2 Speed IV
    Sassy
    -Stealth Rock
    -Gyro Ball
    -Hidden Power Ice
    -Toxic

    Yup?




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    3HKOed by Fire Blast, Bronzong can't even gen close to a OHKO with HP Ice.
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    Bronzong @ Leftovers
    252 Hp / 84 Atk / 80 Def / 92 SpDef
    heatproof
    2 Speed IV
    Sassy
    -Stealth Rock
    -Gyro Ball
    -Hidden Power Ice
    -Toxic

    now maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post
    3HKOed by Fire Blast, Bronzong can't even gen close to a OHKO with HP Ice.
    Ah you are right! I totally forgot to include mutilscale in the calculation.




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    Outrage 3HKOs 97% of the time and it will hit 3 times in a row through confusion 75% of the time, meaning that Bronzong wins only about 26% of the time. Not a counter... again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosts of the Forums View Post
    Sorry, I read it as 252hp.

    Edit, for pinsir:

    Dragonite @Choice Band
    Multiscale
    Naughty
    252atk 160hp 96sp.atk
    -Outrage
    -Superpower
    -ExtremeSpeed
    -Fire Blast
    I think I got it, and I also totally stole this from you Blue Harvest. But I can't think of anything else to possibly counter. That Fire Blast really throws it off.

    Bronzong @ Leftovers
    Relaxed
    252 HP / 252 Defense / 4 HP
    Heatproof
    *0 Speed IVs

    Iron Defense
    Gyro Ball
    Rest
    Sleep Talk
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    That works!

    So I counter with...

    Dragonite @Choice Band
    Multiscale
    Naughty
    252atk 160hp 96sp.atk
    -Outrage
    -Superpower
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Blast

    Bahahaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post
    That works!

    So I counter with...

    Dragonite @Choice Band
    Multiscale
    Naughty
    252atk 160hp 96sp.atk
    -Outrage
    -Superpower
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Blast

    Bahahaha
    EDIT:

    NEVER MIND! Just realized you still had fire blast!

    Bronzong @ Air Balloon
    Relaxed
    252 HP / 252 Defense / 4 HP
    Heatproof
    *0 Speed IVs

    Iron Defense
    Gyro Ball
    Rest
    Sleep Talk

    Because you went there.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauntershadow92 View Post
    EDIT:

    NEVER MIND! Just realized you still had fire blast!

    Bronzong @ Air Balloon
    Relaxed
    252 HP / 252 Defense / 4 HP
    Heatproof
    *0 Speed IVs

    Iron Defense
    Gyro Ball
    Rest
    Sleep Talk

    Because you went there.
    Dragonite @ Kings Rock
    252 HP/252 Sp.Att
    Mutliscale/Modest
    -Swagger
    -Thunderwave
    -Waterfall
    -Roost

    I think this works the majority of the time with Parafusion + Flinch, but I'm unsure. Roost has more PP then Gyro Ball, and Dragonite is faster, so it can just heal any damage from Gyro Ball off.

    Yeah, it's a gimmick, but I think it's good enough of a set not to be considered spam, since it'll paralyze as they swap in, confuse next, and then spam waterfall, and roost when it needs to safely because of the parafusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachmac View Post
    Dragonite @ Kings Rock
    252 HP/252 Atk
    Mutliscale/Adamant
    -Swagger
    -Thunderwave
    -Waterfall
    -Roost

    I think this works the majority of the time with Parafusion + Flinch, but I'm unsure. Roost has more PP then Gyro Ball, and Dragonite is faster, so it can just heal any damage from Gyro Ball off.

    Yeah, it's a gimmick, but I think it's good enough of a set not to be considered spam, since it'll paralyze as they swap in, confuse next, and then spam waterfall, and roost when it needs to safely because of the parafusion.
    I assume you meant Adamant and 252 Atk as you have no SpAtk.

    Cloyster @ White Herb
    252 Atk/Speed
    Adamant
    -Shell Smash
    -Icicle Spear
    -Rock Blast
    -Razor Shell

    Yup. You Dragonite has nothing on this.




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  16. 8th February 2013, 1:18 AM #616
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    I assume you meant Adamant and 252 Atk as you have no SpAtk.
    Oh, yeah, that's what I meant. I had played around with the set, since I wasn't sure if I wanted Dragon Pulse so that I didn't have to worry about iron defense or Waterfall for the extra flinch.

    Edit:
    Raikou @ Choice Scarf
    252 sp.att/252speed
    Timid/Pressure
    -Thunder
    -Thunderbolt
    -Shadow Ball
    -HP Ice

    252Atk Cloyster (+Atk) Icicle Spear vs 4HP/0Def Raikou (Neutral): 71% - 85% (230 - 275 HP). Guaranteed 2HKO.

    252SpAtk Raikou (Neutral) Thunderbolt vs 4HP/0SpDef Cloyster (Neutral): 220% - 260% (534 - 630 HP). Guaranteed OHKO.
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    GRR that goddamn dragonite
    Now onto Raikou
    Blissey@Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVS: 252 HP; 252 SpDef; 4 Def
    Nature: Calm
    -Seismic Toss
    -Wish
    -Protect
    -Counter


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    Shuppet @ Stick
    no EVs
    Brave nature
    level 30

    Toxic
    Substitute
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    Quote Originally Posted by jesusfreak94 View Post
    A lot of bad posts have been deleted. This "game" is supposed to be an exercise in countering Pokemon, so you need to actually come up with sets that would be worth it in a real game. Countering something with a weird set is fine as long as it at least makes some sense, but no more of these sets with no item and just one move or something.
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    Shuppet @ Stick
    no EVs
    Brave nature
    level 30

    Toxic
    Substitute
    Waitwut? ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Harvest View Post
    Shuppet @ Stick
    no EVs
    Brave nature
    level 30

    Toxic
    Substitute
    Wait, we can start using sets like this again? Great. I was kind of disappointed when Jesusfreak banned them....unless you're just doing this because you're a mod and you can. Oh well, I might not get into trouble if I use something a bit more serious...

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    252 Att/252 Speed
    Jolly/Inner Focus
    -Slash
    -Night Slash
    -Leaf Blade
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