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    Default Fully evolved Pokemon with the worst treatment.

    No, I don't mean like Pokemon getting tortured and stuff. Basically, I mean by movepool, abilities, and typing. Which Pokemon do you think got the worst treatment. Oh and no stuff like Unown and friends, stuff like Tauros and Durant are exceptions.

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    ohhh totally garadose lears good sp attck moves
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halros View Post
    ohhh totally garadose lears good sp attck moves
    ...Do you mean Gyarados, Leer, and Sp. Attack? Also, Gyarados has horrible Sp. Attack.


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    Poor Flareon.

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    Eerrr... Escavelier doesn't get Superpower?
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    I honestly think that Luxray can be much better. It has high attack, but few physical moves.
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    Weezing, it has a decent 90 attack, but with a barren Physical movepool that goes with it:/

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    I agree on Luxray's moves.
    And thinking about designs, Samurott is horrible.

    And Dragonite should be a bit faster, imo

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    Oh yes Luxray as well, its looks so bad*** IMO, but with only 3 good Physical moves IIRC.

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    Luxray can learn Superpower, but that's about it.
    The strongest physical Electric-Type move for it is Spark and Thunderfang, both being at 65 Power.
    Unless you are playing BW, wheer it gets Wild Charge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adalricus View Post
    Luxray can learn Superpower, but that's about it.
    The strongest physical Electric-Type move for it is Spark and Thunderfang, both being at 65 Power.
    Unless you are playing BW, wheer it gets Wild Charge
    BW is the standard now so yeah it gets wild charge.. in gen 4 just use a mixed luxray if you even want to use luxray.

    I don't really get it why did you open the thread here it is obviously competitive inclined.
    shedinja? it got like 1 HP.. and bad typing..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post

    I don't really get it why did you open the thread here it is obviously competitive inclined.
    shedinja? it got like 1 HP.. and bad typing..
    Well at least it can wall Kyogre, one of the best Ubers:/
    Heatmor is probably the most outclassed Fire type, its kinda sad cuz it has a bad*** shiny sprite too IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duranteater View Post
    Well at least it can wall Kyogre, one of the best Ubers:/
    Heatmor is probably the most outclassed Fire type, its kinda sad cuz it has a bad*** shiny sprite too IMO.
    gastordon and ferrothorn too...
    it maybe was better in previews gens specially gen 3 where the move sets were more limited now you don't know 100% what an opponent have.. and in gen 3 there weren't stealth rocks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirRob View Post
    Poor Flareon.
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    I think Unfezant is the worst early Normal/Flying type of any region. Plus I wish they would have kept the Dove theme, Tranquill looks pretty cool. I'm not saying it has to be Uber, but is better stats too much too ask? Like maybe good enough SP ATK and ATK so I can use the useless Special moves it learns?




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    Vanilluxe, I really don't like that stupid thing, but it is pretty usable it should just get some better moves

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    Klinklang needs more physical moves! Double edge and explosion seem to suit it.
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    Flareon for me. It's my favorite Eeveelution. And it's outclassed. Each one should be equal, each has it's own strong points. Flareon has 394 Attack, and the only physical Fire type moves it gets are Fire Fang, and Flame Charge. Shame.

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    Any Pokemon who has high Physical/Special attacks and gets a moveset that doesn't allow them to unleash their full potential. Flareon is a great example of this.
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    sad flareon is sad...
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    Yeah Flareon for sure...X( Also Serperior, it only learns Normal and Grass moves from what i heard...:P

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    Sceptile has a great physical movepool despite being a special attacker.

    Also Flareon, as many others have said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomboyTrainer305 View Post
    Yeah Flareon for sure...X( Also Serperior, it only learns Normal and Grass moves from what i heard...:P
    Well from leveling up yeah. But, it can learn some decent TMs, and its Egg Moves aren't half bad either.

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    Sceptile has a great physical movepool despite being a special attacker.
    Ugh, yes. I was so confused on what moves I should teach my Sceptile. I wanted it to have Leaf Blade, Thunderpunch, and Earthquake, but it has higher special attack
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomboyTrainer305 View Post
    Also Serperior, it only learns Normal and Grass moves from what i heard...:P
    it also gets a few Dragon move, and B/W 2 gives it access to Aqua Tail.

    You can say it has bad treatment in B/W, but gets better in B/W 2 just because of that access to Aqua Tail lol





    Anyway, Mantine gets a bad treatment. Most of its coverage moves are physical even though Mantine is better at using special moves, and it doesn't even gets to learn Air Slash until B/W 2, before that, its only option for a special-based Flying move is Air Cutter, which is either a tutor move, or a DW move.
    On top of that, it gets a base SDef that almost rivals Ho-Oh, but really mediocre in everything else.

    Then there's also Luxray. Great Pokemon with awesome looks, except for the fact that its movepool rather sucks. Most of it are Electric, Normal, and Dark moves.
    Manectric also gets the same treatment, except that at least it gets Flamethrower via TM. Luxray gets nothing, its coverage moves requires breeding or tutor.

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    Rapardos could of at least been given a little better move set in the last game and he could of been given a bonus defense and special defense boosts.


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