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    • Galvantula gets Giga Drain via BW2 tutor, so use that>Energy Ball. May as well slap the Life Orb on it. Giga Drain could also be used as an alternative to HP[Ground] on Volcarona.
    • Stone Edge is a possibilty>Return on Gyara for those QuakeEdge users.
    • NP Honchkrow could slash in Superpower>HP Fighting for wallbreaking. Besides, Superpower isn't hindered by the rest of it's moveset too badly. It'd require a shift of EVs/Natures, but eh.
    • Lilligant still has Butterfly Dance as oppsoed to Quiver Dance.
    • Slash in Earthquake alongside Fire Punch on Miltank. Sure, you miss out of Levitating Steels, but there are so few and Earthquake also lets Miltank hit Rocks.
    • Starmie has 252Atk EVs as opposed to SATK EVs


    Now, about Hidden Power. First off, the thread is using both 'HP Type' and 'Hidden Power [Type]' formats. This should be unified into a single format for consistancy's sake. But more importantly, I think that Hidden Power should be only used as an alternative. This is ingame, and most players won't have the patience or knowledge on breeding for Hidden Power which really defeats the point of listing sets that the average ingame player is able to use. It may just be me, but that's what I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurawarrior8 View Post
    Implying Emboar got anything useful through Move tutors. It got Fire/ThunderPunch(which have arguably better alternatives) and...Superpower without breeding? Anyway, the moveset is fine but Nitro Charge has been Flame Charge for 18 months now.


    And no Flygon moveset. Wat.

    Flygon @ Life Orb
    • Levitate
    • Jolly / Naive / Hasty
    • 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    - Dragon claw/Outrage
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Punch/Fire blast
    - Roost/U-turn

    Dragon move+Earthquake hits everyone for everything. I prefer Fire Blast since it's actually slightly more powerful than Fire Punch with a Life Orb but with any other item Fire Punch is stronger.
    There's also Stone Edge, but a Fire move hits Ice types more accurately, deals with Steels who don't get KO'd by Earthquake and hits Bug and Grass types, who just so happen to also resist Earthquake as well.
    The last slot honestly doesn't matter unless you actually use a Life Orb, because 3 attacks+recovery with a Life Orb is the sh*t. I use that kind of Flygon in competitive, and it just refuses to get KO'd.

    I am surprised we don't have a moveset for this guy yet, since it feels like everyone and their mother is using this guy for BW2.
    I don't care much.

    If I get access to BW2 I'll try to get them. But really with a Base Speed of 65 Hammer Arm will prove better imo.

    Why not a MixedGon too?

    Flygon @ Life Orb
    • Levitate
    • Naive
    • 252 Speed / 178 Sp.Atk / 74 Atk
    - Fire Blast
    - Draco Meteor
    - Earthquake
    - Roost / Rock Slide
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    Thanks for the suggestion Aura Sensai, I will change my Samurott moveset.

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    Flygon @ Choice Specs
    • Levitate
    • Timid
    • 4HP / 252SpA / 252Spe
    - Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
    - Earth Power
    - Fire Blast
    - Giga Drain

    Yes, this is a Special Flygon. Not the best set to use, but it's fun, so why not? x)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoldingScreen View Post
    Flygon @ Choice Specs
    • Levitate
    • Timid
    • 4HP / 252SpA / 252Spe
    - Dragon Pulse/Draco Meteor
    - Earth Power
    - Fire Blast
    - Giga Drain

    Yes, this is a Special Flygon. Not the best set to use, but it's fun, so why not? x)
    I'm questioning Specs. LO would be nicer but you'd slaughter yourself at the same time. DM might be better to help deal a little more damage. I say White Herb if you run DM though.

    I think the format is fine as it is , but I don't have a Mac so I have to copy-paste like others.
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    Hmm, I looked at the index and didn't see anything for Lapras, so I might as well give it a shot.

    It's a set that's best used only in rain. Dances circles around anything and everything that likes to run stall with status.

    Lapras & Leftovers.

    Jolly / Hydration

    252 Att, 252 Spd, 4 HP

    Waterfall
    Ice Shard
    Rest
    Dragon Dance

    This set is simple. Get rain set up with another Pokemon, and when they're either down or you think it's time to switch, bring in this thing. One D-Dance lets you outspeed plenty of things, so you can either Rest off the damage or start hammering away at the opposition.

    Even though this thing can survive a harsh blow, it's never safe to bring it up against something that will deliver its own share of pain, unless you're confident of taking them out before you take them out.

    A team based on this Lapras set netted me a peak of 1386 points on PO, before BW2 came out. I'm not certain if it's effective in the new metagame, but even so, it's great for anti-stall if rain is the dominant weather there.
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    I think that Dragonite could also use a Mixed set , think we need one.

    Dragonite @ Life Orb
    • Multiscale
    • Naive
    • 252 Speed / 178 Sp.Atk / 44 Atk / 36 HP
    - Fire Blast
    - Draco Meteor
    - Roost
    - Earthquake / Dragon Claw

    So yeah. LO + healing is pretty standard. HP EV's provide you a little bulk. DM is STAB , Fire Blast hits Ice Types who can usually OHKO you. Earthquake hits Steel Types and provides a nifty combo with the other two moves.
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    Sorry for the delay, but I've finally updated the first post with all the movesets that have been posted here lately, and with some help from Shine all the sets have now been converted to the new format:

    Pokemon @ Item
    Ability
    Nature
    EVs
    - Move 1
    - Move 2
    - Move 3
    - Move 4

    Furthermore, regarding Hidden Power:
    - the format for Hidden Power will be Hidden Power [Type], not HP Type or HP [Type] or Hidden Power Type.

    Quote Originally Posted by FoldingScreen View Post
    But more importantly, I think that Hidden Power should be only used as an alternative. This is ingame, and most players won't have the patience or knowledge on breeding for Hidden Power which really defeats the point of listing sets that the average ingame player is able to use. It may just be me, but that's what I think.
    And I completely agree with this. So I've made a few changes here and there where Hidden Power was listed as a 'definite' move by slashing an alternative, and I'll be doing that for all of the sets where Hidden Power isn't listed as just an alternative, but please by all means help me out with that by giving me suggestions ^^

    And we were also lacking a Shell Smash Carracosta set. I haven't added it into the OP yet but:

    Carracosta @ White Herb
    Sturdy
    Adamant / Jolly
    252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
    - Shell Smash
    - Waterfall
    - Rock Slide
    - Earthquake

    Carracosta @ White Herb
    Sturdy
    Hasty / Naive
    252 Spe / 56 Atk / 200 SpA
    - Shell Smash
    - Surf
    - Rock Slide
    - Ice Beam / Focus Blast

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhanton View Post
    Sorry for the delay, but I've finally updated the first post with all the movesets that have been posted here lately, and with some help from Shine all the sets have now been converted to the new format:

    Pokemon @ Item
    Ability
    Nature
    EVs
    - Move 1
    - Move 2
    - Move 3
    - Move 4

    Furthermore, regarding Hidden Power:
    - the format for Hidden Power will be Hidden Power [Type], not HP Type or HP [Type] or Hidden Power Type.



    And I completely agree with this. So I've made a few changes here and there where Hidden Power was listed as a 'definite' move by slashing an alternative, and I'll be doing that for all of the sets where Hidden Power isn't listed as just an alternative, but please by all means help me out with that by giving me suggestions ^^

    And we were also lacking a Shell Smash Carracosta set. I haven't added it into the OP yet but:

    Carracosta @ White Herb
    Sturdy
    Adamant / Jolly
    252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
    - Shell Smash
    - Waterfall
    - Rock Slide
    - Earthquake

    Carracosta @ White Herb
    Sturdy
    Hasty / Naive
    252 Spe / 56 Atk / 200 SpA
    - Shell Smash
    - Surf
    - Rock Slide
    - Ice Beam / Focus Blast
    Just pointing out that my username is spelt with an "a" instead of an "e" in Sensai.

    They both look fine but maybe a Curse set would be nice too:

    Carracosta @ Leftovers
    Sturdy
    Adamant
    252 HP / 174 Atk / 78 Sp.Def
    - Curse
    - Aqua Jet
    - Rock Slide
    - Earthquake / Waterfall

    I think a Curse set can arguably make it into a Bulky Sweeper , for people with that approach. Basically maxed HP for some great Bulk , some EV's dumped into Special Defense to help against it's weaknesses a bit too. It abuses Curse and Aqua Jet since Aqua Jet ignores the Speed drop from Curse. All pretty standard.
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    ^Except theres already a Curse set, albeit with slightly different EVs.

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    Kyogre @ Leftovers
    Drizzle
    Timid
    4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
    - Surf
    - Thunder
    - Ice Beam
    - Calm Mind

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    Empoleon @ Leftovers
    Torrent
    Jolly
    4 HP / 252 Atk / 253 Spe
    - Swords Dance
    - Aqua Jet / Waterfall
    - Earthquake
    - Drill Peck

    Kingdra @ Leftovers
    Sniper
    Adamant / Lonely
    - Dragon Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Outrage
    - Return / Draco Meteor /


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    Emboar @ Leftovers
    Blaze
    Adamant
    252 HP / 252 Atk
    -Bulk Up
    -Fire Punch
    -Hammer Arm
    -Rock Slide / Wild Charge

    No physical Emboar set? Wat.

    Kyurem-W @ Life Orb / Choice Specs
    Timid
    Turboblaze
    252 Spatk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
    -Draco Meteor
    -Dragon Pulse
    -Ice beam
    -Fusion Flare

    No Kyurem formes? Double wat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoldingScreen View Post
    ^Except theres already a Curse set, albeit with slightly different EVs.

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    Kyogre @ Leftovers
    Drizzle
    Timid
    4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
    - Surf
    - Thunder
    - Ice Beam
    - Calm Mind

    *

    Empoleon @ Leftovers
    Torrent
    Jolly
    4 HP / 252 Atk / 253 Spe
    - Swords Dance
    - Aqua Jet / Waterfall
    - Earthquake
    - Drill Peck

    Kingdra @ Leftovers
    Sniper
    Adamant / Lonely
    - Dragon Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Outrage
    - Return / Draco Meteor /


    *


    *
    I missed that , ahahaha.

    No ShedRest Scrafty?

    Scrafty @ Leftovers
    Shed Skin
    Careful
    252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Sp.Def
    - Drain Punch
    - Rest
    - Bulk Up
    - Crunch
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    Can anybody rate my Galvantula?

    Galvantula @Life Orb
    Nature Modest/Timid
    Ability Compoundeyes
    EVs 252 Special Attack/ 252 Speed/ 4 HP
    -Thunder
    -Bug Buzz
    -Hidden Power [Ice]
    -Volt Switch/Giga Drain
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    I'd put Energy Ball > Volt Switch for Rock types. Otherwise, it's perfect.


    No Kyurem formes? Double wat.
    I didn't put in Kyurem-B? Wat.

    Kyurem-B @ Life Orb
    Teravolt
    Naive / Hasty
    100 Atk / 156 Spatk / 252 Spe
    -Outrage
    -Ice beam
    -Fusion Bolt
    -Earth Power / Roost

    Destroy everything in your path with Outrage. Anything that isn't KOed, tell the AI to stop using Steels or stop cheating. Boltbeam cos Boltbeam. Earth Power can handle any Steel that doesn't fall to other moves, even Bronzong thanks to Teravolt. Roost can heal LO recoil and Outrage confusions though.
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    I'd have to second Energy Ball for some extra coverage. Timid > Modest too.

    Um , Work Up Hydreigon pl0x.

    Hydreigon @ Life Orb
    Levitate
    Naive
    252 Speed / 174 Atk / 78 Sp.Atk
    - Draco Meteor
    - Crunch / Fire Blast
    - Earthquake
    - Work Up

    Yay , a wrecking ball. After reaching +3 or so , wreck with Draco Meteor. Fun.
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    Sorry wasnt sure where to put/ask this but hoping this is the right place. Ok looked to see if u had a gd set for Rhyperior and couldnt find one so would like to ask if this set is alright or if there would be a better set for Rhyperior.

    Rhyperior @ No sure mayb leftovers
    Solid Rock
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Mega Horn
    Thunderbolt

    Thanku for any help with this pokemon

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    Rhyperior @ Leftovers
    Solid Rock
    Adamant / Jolly
    252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
    - Rock Slide
    - Earthquake
    - Magahorn
    - Swords Dance / Rock Polish

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    Rhyperior has a terrible SpA stat so really shouldn't be running any Special moves. If you have access to BW2, you can teach it Thunderpunch instead of Thunderbolt, which runs off its better offensive stat and let's you hit Water-types. Alternatively, you should probably just go with a boosting move such as Rock Polish, and just switch out on Water-types.

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    Sorry yes this is to add to my BW2 team sorry

    Also why rock slide over stone edge??
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildtrainer316 View Post
    Sorry yes this is to add to my BW2 team sorry

    Also why rock slide over stone edge??
    Because Rock Slide has better accuracy. Rhyperior has a huge attack stat anyway so the drop in base power isn't that noticeable.

    Whoops, missed this one:

    Quote Originally Posted by Aura Sensai View Post
    I'd have to second Energy Ball for some extra coverage. Timid > Modest too.

    Um , Work Up Hydreigon pl0x.

    Hydreigon @ Life Orb
    Levitate
    Naive
    252 Speed / 174 Atk / 78 Sp.Atk
    - Draco Meteor
    - Crunch / Fire Blast
    - Earth Power
    - Work Up

    Yay , a wrecking ball. After reaching +3 or so , wreck with Draco Meteor. Fun.
    Go with Earth Power > Earthquake. On Hydreigon, a Ground-type move is used mainly for Steel-types, and they generally have a far lower SpD stat compared to their Def stat.

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    For Aura Sensai and Aurawarrior8
    I will just put Energy Ball as a option since I may use this Galvantula in the Battle Subway.

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    @zhanton (because I cbf to quote on iPad lol); Then you as well run Flamethrower > Earth Power it offers superior neutral coverage through the infamous Dragon + Fire coverage. Sure, you miss out on hitting Heatran, but imo the overall coverage makes it worth it in the long run.

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    So then, for some reason I decided to come up with a semi-offensive Banette moveset.

    Banette (Adamant)
    Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
    252 HP/252 atk/4 spd
    -Thunder Wave
    -Shadow Claw
    -Return
    -Gunk Shot/Thunderbolt/Confuse Ray

    Yes, I know Banette isn't a very good choice for an attacker, but it's got a usable attack stat (115) and I wanted to try something different. Thunder Wave is to cripple opponents (and so you can actually outspeed something), Shadow Claw for STAB, Return for coverage. Not sure about the last move. Gunk Shot is just another physical attack, Thunderbolt could be used to hit water types (Banette has the average but passable sp. atk stat of 83), or Confuse Ray could be used for, well, confusing things. Not sure about the EV spread. I suppose you could put 252 in speed instead of HP, but I figured you wouldn't need those speed EVs if you're running Thunder Wave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhanton View Post
    Because Rock Slide has better accuracy. Rhyperior has a huge attack stat anyway so the drop in base power isn't that noticeable.

    Whoops, missed this one:



    Go with Earth Power > Earthquake. On Hydreigon, a Ground-type move is used mainly for Steel-types, and they generally have a far lower SpD stat compared to their Def stat.
    I wasn't using it , just so you know. I noticed that there wasn't a Work UP Hydreigon in the OP.

    Quote Originally Posted by FoldingScreen View Post
    @zhanton (because I cbf to quote on iPad lol); Then you as well run Flamethrower > Earth Power it offers superior neutral coverage through the infamous Dragon + Fire coverage. Sure, you miss out on hitting Heatran, but imo the overall coverage makes it worth it in the long run.
    Why use Flamethrower with Fire Blast there? It's kinda pointless.

    @chap F it , use Giga Drain , my bad.
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    Sharpedo @Focus Sash
    Nature Adamant/Jolly
    Ability Speed Boost
    EVs 252 Attack/ 252 Speed/ 4 HP
    -Waterfall
    -Crunch
    -Earthquake
    -Protect

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