I think young people have more of a right to come on these sites than immature adults.
I'm just going to say, if we're reaching the age of technology and internet and still barring a lot of kids from the world, we'll have shelter kids, the internet version...
of course, this can be elaborated and broken down, but i can't solidify my idea yet...
hopefully someone catch my thought
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The issue here seems to be more whether parents would want to keep their kids from stumbling into something they shouldn't, and ultimately protecting them from their own stupidity and/or immaturity.
I say some people shouldn't be allowed within 20 feet of a computer (IOW They shouldn't post). Either they're too young, too immature, or just flat out not right to be online. It makes being on Forums like this a lot less enjoyable. They play the system and avoid what it SHOULD be doing, which is making this place better and troll free. It's surprising what kind of people are on here; I love the honest people here, and its fun to chat with them, but some of the "annoying ones" (for lack of a better word) make me want to leave.
I might be unclear, but the latter part meant the internet lol.
Also, I think it's not just about blocking kids to stumble things. Some things parents -need- to talk to their kids about. The Sex talk. The curse word talk. The etiquette talk. And you could have too many talks and helicopter parents, but that's whole another topic...
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My sister joined facebook when she was 7..which was last year... It's sort of weird. I broke the rules myself for joining TradeMe...like eBay when i was 14...Legal age there is 18...nya~
Protecting children from inappropriate material might be good, but that's only if there is inappropriate material to protect them from and I can't think of an example of that.
A significant amount of adults start watching pornography when they are 12-13 years old and some even have intercourse at that age and I don't see anything bad about it.
The other thing that seem to get a lot of warnings as inappropriate material is gore. People get to see that in biology class at a young age, so why not at the internet? I'd like it if someone tells me why it's bad that children or young adults might see these "inappropriate" things.
Discussion boards are scary, desolate and cold places. Now your forums and stuff have their age limits because children younger than the age of 12 are very gullible and tend to go along with anything, so in other words they're very susceptible to being abducted or giving away important information that strangers shouldn't know, etc. I fully understand that children aged 12 and above are just as susceptible to this in some cases, but the law has to draw a line somewhere. To give a voice to those in danger above 11 posting on discussion boards, I personally think that they should be lightly supervised by parents until a good age (18?), or until their parents feel that they have a good understanding. It is out of the law's grasp if children are still in danger as this point, really, because as another poster said, it's only really bad parenting that leads to a young person being in danger on the Internet.
The line has to be drawn somewhere. By playing that card, somebody two days before their 18th is only 1 day younger than a person who just joined, so they should be allowed to join too right? And then what about a person 3 days away from their 18? They're only 1 day away from someone able to join as well now, so they should just be allowed to join... and so on and so forth.*Today a 17 year old can't join, but tomorrow the same guy (now 18) can
I don't think knowledge should be valued above safety.*It actually keeps people from (gasp) asking questions and (double-gasp) learning something)
Wohoo*Serebii is free for anyone of any age to use, so lets all thank them for that liberty!
Part of a parent's job is to guide their kids into being functional adults who can continue on their way without having to rely on their parents or other people, and I think allowing them to learn from their own mistakes instead of sheltering them is a big part of that. Saving them from their own stupidity, however... it's one thing if a tween decides to troll a forum and get banned from it and cries to mommy, but totally another if they wind up doing something dumb like threatening someone who decides to take action against them, or agreeing to meet someone offline for sex who is showing all the warning signs of being a bad apple... stuff like that that could get them in legal trouble, or any other type of palpable trouble.
well yeah i think that there are some things/sites that kids shouldnt post on.
but the strictness is so annoying when people can lie about stuff.
i mean i wouldnt post on something that asked me for something that i didnt want to give.
and if i thought that they didnt deserve what they were asking for i wouldnt want to be there at all.
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.... i really don't know what to say. people put an age restriction to prevent underaged people because they think people under a certain age can't handle it. for any site to ask for an age is dumb because the fact that if the person can hold an email, they can handle the responsibilities of the site in question.
Never mind the fact that it can make others online uncomfortable to be talking to a ten or eleven-year-old on a site they know they're not supposed to be on, and how it gets about a hundred times worse when you bring in things like erotic content online and how kids lie about their age to get access to it. Especially if it's an interactive site; adults on those sites don't want to write with, chat with, or otherwise be in the presence of someone who could land them in jail or cause a whole hell of a lot of discomfort otherwise.
It's not usually that extreme, but it can get others in trouble because of your lie. As far as most people are concerned, anyone under the age of thirteen is generally not emotionally equipped to be using the internet anyway.
I feel this debate has bounced a bit between the thought of "How far does one measure the scope of 'Using the internet?' Is it a tool solely of socialization, or an evil hive of forbidden knowledge and concepts no younger individual should be exposed to?" If it is solely a wand of social media, I would agree that the younger generation should not use it. From experience, younger folks have a hard time grasping the concept that sub-forums have their own rulesets, and tend to wind up in silly situations, like posting an ad for a Fan Comic in a Fan Fiction thread.
For the latter, you are dealing with a wider, much more subjective concept. The internet in and of itself is a brilliant learning device, but only in the right hands. If we, the USA (My country, for the purposes of this argument) placed an internet-wide age limit, we would be dealing with an internet censorship scandal (SOPA and China come to mind.) And when I say "Internet-Wide age limit," I'm not talking like a little bar that pops up in a redirect window in every citizen's browser - that's not how we'd handle it. The Government knows better, and they know everybody's age. We'd be looking at a bill that enacted a nationwide parental control, sponsored by the government.
And they'd have help, too. I recall a post talking about personal information being leaked. While that is an issue, remember that companies like Google keep track of everything you say, do and look at. Google Chrome might be fast and efficient, but what is the point when now you have two faceless entities watching your every move?
My best advice is not to use social media outlets much at all. I've spent more time reading about Internet History than all the time I've spent here combined. Compare my post count with my join date. It says something. Probably something about time management.
And I hate to bring this up, but it is at the very least somewhat relevant: Manchildren. They exist, and I can name at least one with a wiki.
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Most websites make you be 13+ because the law says they cant take information from anyone under 13 years old. Obviously, they are aware of the fact that you can easily lie about your age but its just a legal safety net. Usually they arent just trying to get at kids under 13. Another reason they might not want little kids on their websites is so that they can be free to curse and discuss adult things like mortgages and reading the newspaper without being hassled by youngsters. And usually kids cant type or express their opinions in a constructive way.
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Anyone should be able to post on the Internet as long as they can handle criticism and can read and write the preferred language of said board, forum, or anything else on the Internet that's socially interactive.
Yeah the majority of stuff on the internet is spam,advertisement or porn.
The rest consists of information, false or not, though its that information that i feel can be quite detrimental to a teenager. Though
their is a lot that of teenagers that can handle whats up on the internet, theirs a hell of a lot that they cant and that they could
misunderstand or misinterpret. As a result, that misinterpretation or misunderstanding could lead to a number of things including a post on that forum that doesn't make any sense in regards to what might be deemed an arcane or hard to understand topic, in which would stunt the topic in itself. This one reason though
is by fare not the only reason many sites have age restrictions.
Theirs a number of forums in which might offer information in which would and could
change ones perspective in quite a dramatic way if understood,misunderstood or even simply read. The pure fact that on the internet
people often reveal what they truly feel because of the medium in itself and the way people are allowed to express their mind offers an
unadulterated sometimes offensive view/opinion. In that case, any age restriction is obviously looking out for others.
That in itself, is a justifiable excuse to slap a age restriction on the front page of almost any site.
Its understandable that many of these sites with age restrictions might be offering information or even knowledge in which that *teenager*
might actively be wanting to seek out , but weather that person could actually understand that information
or knowledge and in some cases interpret the information correctly, is the reason their are age restrictions on forums.
Because the truth and even false information can be very dangerous..
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