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    Quote Originally Posted by Dax View Post
    Yeah, but he's the lead of the show. He needs to struggle for us to cheer for him.
    True... but I never understood why rivals other then Paul always got these free pass battles. I mentioned Paul because he did struggle against Roark

    Quote Originally Posted by Shneak View Post
    I haven't gotten to see the episode yet, but I viewed the photos. It looks good. I like that the gym battle wasn't rushed and there was time for bonding between Ash and Kotetsu. As much as you all wanted a long gym battle, getting to know the rival is important too. The gym battle looks good, but I'll have to see it in motion. The animation looks good and the battle between Mantine and Samurott was the most interesting part of it.
    Have you not read a single post made in this thread? The battles were totally rushed... Ferrothorn OHKO Jellicent with a single Thunderbolt (which got affected by Curse Body)

    Also about Curse Body... told you guys in the preview thread that it's totally inconsistent on how it works
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    Man,Samurott looked awesome in this epi.Like,seriously.Why doesn't Ash have one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nacreous View Post
    Man,Samurott looked awesome in this epi.Like,seriously.Why doesn't Ash have one?
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    Seems like a split decision on Samurott's debut... I personality didn't think anything special of it and it's moveset was simply atrocious (3 Water moves...really?) but I didn't flat out hate it. I'd like to know why the people who thought it was bad*** feel that way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Seems like a split decision on Samurott's debut... I personality didn't think anything special of it and it's moveset was simply atrocious (3 Water moves...really?) but I didn't flat out hate it. I'd like to know why the people who thought it was bad*** feel that way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Have you not read a single post made in this thread? The battles were totally rushed... Ferrothorn OHKO Jellicent with a single Thunderbolt (which got affected by Curse Body)

    Also about Curse Body... told you guys in the preview thread that it's totally inconsistent on how it works
    I noticed that. It's annoying, but I think it was redeemed with Mantine. Like I said, I need to see it, and we needed time for bonding anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00poke_maniac View Post
    =O I never understood what was wrong with Samurott's design to people. Emboar with all the flames is kind of hard to make out in the game...but Samurott always struck me to be detailed but you still had a good idea of what it is (a sea lion). I love sea lions and otters so I'm quite happy with this line. XDDD
    At first I disliked samurott, but to me samurott at least differed himself from empoleon (which I felt like oshawott and dewott didn't do so well when black and white first came out.), so it was okay. (Still much prefered serperior. XD)

    then I frucking saw its pokedex 3D sprite move...being a badass. i gained a respect the day I saw him pull that sword like thing out. XD (also is an awesome way to use razor shell.)

    as for this episode...soudns like fun, but short. I want a longer battle for once... and he totally was being smart and sacking his jellicent to get rid of the ferrothorn that would totally wall and kill his mantine with thunderbolt.

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    Razor Shell, Aqua Jet and a special Water move...dayumn Ash and Marlon, stop copying me. No, seriously, I used those moves on Samurott with Revenge/Ice Beam/Megahorn both times I've picked Oshawott in a play through(in competitive one would only use 2 physicals(Razor Shell/Water Fall + Aqua Jet or 1 special though) and it works. There's more to moves than type, each 3 have different uses. Geez people.
    Anyway, Samurott was pretty boss. Hopefully it's popularity is increased enough in Japan so Ash could have one after the league when Kotetsu will most likely be gone for good. I'll do with Dewott too though.
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    I like Kotetsu's pokemon but I found the Gym battle underwhelming

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    Great episode! Kotetsu is cool, the gym battle was great. The battle didn't need to cover the whole episode, the bond between Ash and Kotetsu was needed so I don't get why people complain it was rushed. It was 50/50.

    Oh man I wish Ash could get a Samurott but that's not happening..

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    OMG OMG...

    I laughed. Iris called both Ash and Kotetsu kids...and then both him and Kotetsu were humming Mezase Pokemon Master. X3 After BW ends I'd totally like to see Kotetsu come back again...

    Kotetsu's eyes are so pretty. xDD

    Kotetsu you're supposed to search in your hair like Natsuya did for his styler.

    Aw Kotetsu? Where are you at in times? You have to geocache like Dento does. XD

    Oh gawd. -_- They can't work a compass?

    Hmm there's a lot of changes in music lol.

    PFFT. Kotetsu's silly.

    Hmm new evolution theme...

    Hahaha Dento and Iris sound bored. xD

    I don't think Dento and Iris's brains can comprehend anything. They were like so..."Uuuuh" towards Marlon. xDD

    LOL Riolu.

    D'aaaw it's Mr. Pringles. :3

    LLOL Dento and Iris...simultaneous fall. XDDD

    Eh? Ferrothorn can learn Thunderbolt? O.e

    omg Mr. Pringles o.o;

    Ferrothorn looked possessed. xD

    Hmm I thnk riolu is afraid to battle. :/

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    I see several people comparing Kotetsu to Ritchie, for the sole reason of him being quite similar to Ash..

    To me, that doesn't make sense since the only reason Ash and Ritchie were so alike was because they shared several Pokemon lines. If anything, i'd say he's kind of like a mix of Morrison and Barry, personality wise. I like him..

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    It was really fun watching Samurott in a full-fledged battle. And it can actually stand on its hind legs....cool is cool!

    Also now we have frenzy plant on Trip's Serperior, Hydro-cannon on Kotetsu's Samurott. Please Ash evolve pignite and make Emboar learn Blast burn. i don't want Bianca's Emboar to debut BB

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    Quote Originally Posted by The 4th Kira View Post
    I didn't like the way this episode was executed. The first half was just random shenanigans, and we didn't even get the Gym battle until the end. I'm all for characters bonding, but it seemed unnecessary here. Anyway, Kotetsu got on my nerves; I thought he would be interesting, but he reminds me of a thousand other male characters. I'm not here for reductivity. I really like Marlon though. He looked fierce. But the battle was bland. I think we all knew that Kotetsu would win, so there wasn't any suspense. I'm sure people are rating this episode a 10 out of 10 just for Samurott though. That just goes to show how times have changed.
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    If only mantine had water absorb...

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    Was the only one that said to themselves, after watching that gym battle: "The theme song is longer than this."

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    Maybe I'll watch the dub version of this when it comes out (like next year) and see if I like it then. I've got nothing against subbed, but I wanna see the dub version

    Also, it's super hard to believe... but Burgundy is in sole possession of the most diverse movepool of the Oshawott family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    If only mantine had water absorb...
    Yeah,that would've been funny.

    Also, it's super hard to believe... but Burgundy is in sole possession of the most diverse movepool of the Oshawott family.
    Poor Burgundy...she's like the voice of the audiences[us],always frustrated with characters that don't train their pkmn and still win.

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    I absolutely loved this episode. I already watched it properly and the bonding part (aka the first 10 minutes) are the most amazing scenes I have seen lately in Best Wishes. I really like this new rival and it gave me hope about this saga because I was starting to find it really boring to watch. Oh and the battle was ok... A little bit rushed but ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shac View Post
    Also now we have frenzy plant on Trip's Serperior, Hydro-cannon on Kotetsu's Samurott. Please Ash evolve pignite and make Emboar learn Blast burn. i don't want Bianca's Emboar to debut BB
    I think it would be better to give up on that dream of Ash's starters getting to use the elemental beams. He had like 4 fully evolved starters in the anime until now (Charizard, Sceptile, Torterra and Infernape). But none have learned those moves yet.
    In fact when Sceptile returned for the Sinnoh League he used Leaf Storm as its new move. The writer could have easily given it Frenzy Plant, but no they didn't.

    I think since Frenzy Plant and Hydro Cannon are considered to be the powerful attacks in the anime, i guess that writers have decided to not give those moves to Ash's starters, since they most likely believe that it would make Ash's starter pokemons more powerful. So, the moves got reserved for the Rivals or so random COTD.

    So, most likely it would be Bianca's Emboar who would debut that move in the anime. And if she doesn't, then it would be someone else, but not Ash's starter pokemons.

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    Watched the episiode.

    Fun, the Satoshi/Kotetsu part was cool and funny at times.

    The battle was fast but not awful, I liked how Dent and Iris were like "Oo why would he use an slow almost stagnant pokemon in such a field" when he sent out Ferrorthorn.

    Samurott was pretty damn awesome underwater outside(standing) I only got to see the badge scene and EWWWW.

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    Glad they finally decided to start using music from the first BW movie.
    And since the opening got updated with Kotetsu, I think the argument that no spoilers means no evolutions is out of the window. They'll just keep on updating it as changes are made. At least that's what I hope for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shac View Post
    It was really fun watching Samurott in a full-fledged battle. And it can actually stand on its hind legs....cool is cool!

    Also now we have frenzy plant on Trip's Serperior, Hydro-cannon on Kotetsu's Samurott. Please Ash evolve pignite and make Emboar learn Blast burn. i don't want Bianca's Emboar to debut BB
    But since Bianca has one, than it makes sense for hers to use it before Ash even evolves his Pignite. Besides, Most of Ash's fire starters are evolved, so I don't want to see another Charizard/Infernape segment again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    Watched the episiode.

    Fun, the Satoshi/Kotetsu part was cool and funny at times.

    The battle was fast but not awful, I liked how Dent and Iris were like "Oo why would he use an slow almost stagnant pokemon in such a field" when he sent out Ferrorthorn.

    Samurott was pretty damn awesome underwater outside(standing) I only got to see the badge scene and EWWWW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dman_dustin View Post
    How was Samurott badass?

    The battle was completely rushed just to show how overpowered Kotetsu was just to drill in the idea that "Hey this trainer is going to likely beat Ash in the Unova League even though he doesn't deserve it."

    I still prefer the realistic approach of having some random trainer show up being overpowered that beats Ash and the league because there's no guarantee that you'll know the person who will beat you (or who you will face) in a tournament.

    If only Kotetsu was a girl like BW female protagonist or B2W2 female protagonist, I would've had a much different perspective of this episode.
    If Kotetsu was overpowered, he wouldn't have lost a single pokemon. At least Mantine beat something. Though I agree with you about the random trainers, it's something I liked about Tobias since he didn't meet Ash about 5 episodes before the league like 'sup guys, Imma sweep you all with my Darkrai' or befriend Ash within like 2-3 minutes (*coughRitchie*). Well we knew Tobias would beat Ash, but Ash didn't meet him until their battle so it made things different than with Ritchie, Harrison or Tyson. I think Kotetsu is going to lose to Ash in a full 6v6 battle (like Morrison did) or just get lolstomped by Trip in a 3v3 (Like how Paul beat Barry, losing without beating any of Trip's pokemon, assuming Trip doesn't do that to Stephan or Bianca).

    And if Kotetsu was a girl like the BW or BW2 protagonist, I don't see how it would really matter. It means nothing. The only difference would be that one is an idiot (Kotetsu) and the other isn't (both female protagonists). Hell, they'd probably give her Kotetsu's personality anyway so the only true difference between them then would be that they has breasts and Kotetsu doesn't. They could give either girl a Samurott and Riolu, then the other 4 can be any random fully evolved pokemon. I don't understand why people really want Ash to have a good female rival like it matters or anything. To me, Bianca is Ash's rival, who is one of several of his Unova rivals. Her being female is trival and doesn't affect my opinion on her. Anyway, if Kotetsu was replaced by the BW or BW2 girl, she'd still be overpowered going by your opinion of the episode since she'd still beat Marlon with relative ease. Though at least if Ash loses to Kotetsu, it would be a close battle like when Ash battled Harrison or Tyson. I don't really remember Ash vs Ritchie but I think it was one-sided.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rohanator View Post
    Glad they finally decided to start using music from the first BW movie.
    And since the opening got updated with Kotetsu, I think the argument that no spoilers means no evolutions is out of the window. They'll just keep on updating it as changes are made. At least that's what I hope for.
    Well perhaps Pignite might actually evolve...hopefully not. I don't need a repeat of Infernape, where Emboar hogs all the victories while the pokemon which need the wins don't get them, like how Torterra basically got shafted once Ash got Chimchar.

    As for the opening, I wonder how many times the opening will change before the Unova League starts. Maybe just another one or two times when some of Ash's pokemon evolve.
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