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Thread: BWS2-17 Iris VS Drayden [FIRST POST UPDATED 10/19]

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    Quote Originally Posted by fer92 View Post
    Replying to a mod!? Yes, and I expalin why.

    Forget about Ash vs Drayden (won't happen unlike Senior Cup that I aren't going to discuss) and Cilan's leaving. But I'm going to look at Iris' leaving. I'm expalin why.

    Iris has recently having a lot of screentime before the league. Cilan isn't getting that screentime and appears more foten in BW1. We know that iris is challenging Drayden, Iris is going to the village of Dragons, and we will know about her backstory almost completely.

    We know that Iris has captured a very powerful pokemon in the main cast. It's very abnormal to capture a such powerful pokemon right of the bat. The game status is the only reason that anyone is allowed to capture such a powerful pokemon. I don't going to discuss if it's Dragonite and not Salamence, for example. We know that is disobedient (the past episode appears that it's starting to listen Iris' orders but could be temporary).

    We know if the following things happen:
    -The backstory is completetly tell to the viewer. (Check in those episodes)
    -Iris defeats Drayden (Could happen)
    -Iris fully controls Dragonite. (Has many numbers to happen now if isn't in the past episode)
    -Georgia appears in this episodes (Less probably but could happen).
    -Iris' Axew evolves into a Fraxure (I think that will happen in the departure, not in this).

    If four of this happen in the Iris episodes and Axew is apparently setting to evolve, Iris has a numbers to leave. Not in this episode but after the League, at least. Of course, if they didn't happen, Iris is going to the filler saga with Ash and Cilan.

    Exist a big image about one merchandise that appears to be released in 2013. The merchandise has many Kanto Pokemon but that I notice is that Ash, Cilan, Jessie, James, Meowth and some of the main cast's pokemon (but not Iris and some that screams Ash, Charizard!!!). Of course if a new girl could substitute Iris for that time, they aren't revealing anything now being an unreleased girl or that a past main character return (Dawn 25%*, May 3%**, Misty 0,01%, the % is only if Iris really leave, not overall). I don't think that iris will leave in the episodes (isn't going to happen) but I think that if the iris characters will receive a closure (and isn't Ash, or May/Dawn, Iris' storyline aren't easily revamped like Ash's story) and Iris story has technically ended after the episode. remembered that Ash ends the League like in 3 months, and the Gen VI could be released like in a year, at least.

    *Because of the crazy-popularity of Pochama (more than Piplup, y'know) Dawn has some numbers to return to the show in that case.
    **I put this because the RS-Remakes are happening. But isn't necessary to promote May in the main cast ( a cameo is enough).
    ***If Ash goes to Kanto, I see Misty reappearing, but I think that Brock will make a cameo.

    Speculate.
    You're a very confused person. They aren't gonna drop a main character before the entire generation is over. These episodes conclude nothing but her Drayden story. Once this is over, Iris will continue to focus on her dragon master goal by likely catching another dragon and focusing on it, and on top of that her rivalry with Georgia which is still going on. She has plenty left to do.

    Considering BW has only been going on for a little over 2 years, it's obvious no one is being dropped during the filler saga. Misty, May, and Dawn were all on the show for a minimal of 4 years, so they aren't gonna drop Iris at the 2 year mark. That's not how this show works.
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    I don't mind iris staying on but if shes going to stay on for another 1-2 years she needs more to do than just dragon training and Georgia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    I don't mind iris staying on but if shes going to stay on for another 1-2 years she needs more to do than just dragon training and Georgia.
    I would love if she started collecting badges too lol. They just have to make it so that Ash collects the official badges and Iris challenges the other gyms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    I don't mind iris staying on but if shes going to stay on for another 1-2 years she needs more to do than just dragon training and Georgia.
    Dragon training and Georgia is all she really needs. As long as she's doing something that focuses on her dragon master goal, it's all worth it because it's development. There's also possible future tournaments which she can compete in.
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    On Druddigon vs Dragonite I'm not sure. I can see it going all three ways.

    Dragonite wins
    Druddigon wins
    Draw

    For Excadrill vs haxorus, yeah I can see Haxorus winning no doubt.


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    The battle is far away! But I'm really looking forward to it! Some pretty great Powerhouses will fight and it seems pretty intense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Taidow_ View Post
    On Druddigon vs Dragonite I'm not sure. I can see it going all three ways.

    Dragonite wins
    Druddigon wins
    Draw

    For Excadrill vs haxorus, yeah I can see Haxorus winning no doubt.
    I see a tie as a possibility. It shows Iris and the Drill have progressed but that they also have a way to go
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    I think it will be more like they fought, excadrill managed to give great damage to Haxorus but in the final clash, Excadrill will faint before Hax and than Hax faints as well. or they both faint at the same time.
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    Has anybody talked about Iris climbing a tower in the middle of Opelucid City? Like seriously? xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locormus View Post
    Has anybody talked about Iris climbing a tower in the middle of Opelucid City? Like seriously? xD
    I'm wondering if they just randomly moved Dragonspiral tower. Or if its just some completely random thing.

    Wonder what's up there that's so important
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceDetective View Post
    I'm wondering if they just randomly moved Dragonspiral tower. Or if its just some completely random thing.

    Wonder what's up there that's so important
    Zekrom and/or Reshiram?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundedshock View Post
    Zekrom and/or Reshiram?
    Maybe. It would be an appropriate place to add something to that storyline
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceDetective View Post
    Maybe. It would be an appropriate place to add something to that storyline
    True but then there is the fear that this or the battle will be rushed........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundedshock View Post
    True but then there is the fear that this or the battle will be rushed........
    Not really. They don't need to put much backstory in. It's just personally I'd like a reason to watch this besides Excadrill vs Haxorus. A bit of backstory or exploration of opelucid would be nice, since this is probably its only appearance
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceDetective View Post
    I'm wondering if they just randomly moved Dragonspiral tower. Or if its just some completely random thing.

    Wonder what's up there that's so important
    Iwane did confirm that Dragonspiral Tower was going to appear in the anime at some point via his blog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotpika View Post
    Iwane did confirm that Dragonspiral Tower was going to appear in the anime at some point via his blog.
    that's right, I had forgotten about that. would make more sense then a random tower
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceDetective View Post
    that's right, I had forgotten about that. would make more sense then a random tower
    I doubt it's D-Spiral Tower though, given the summary seems to refer to it as "Souryuu's Steel Tower".

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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    You're a very confused person. They aren't gonna drop a main character before the entire generation is over. These episodes conclude nothing but her Drayden story. Once this is over, Iris will continue to focus on her dragon master goal by likely catching another dragon and focusing on it, and on top of that her rivalry with Georgia which is still going on. She has plenty left to do.

    Considering BW has only been going on for a little over 2 years, it's obvious no one is being dropped during the filler saga. Misty, May, and Dawn were all on the show for a minimal of 4 years, so they aren't gonna drop Iris at the 2 year mark. That's not how this show works.
    I agree but then again Fer92 usually never makes sense XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groundedshock View Post
    Zekrom and/or Reshiram?
    But why would Iris and Drayden afterwards battle eachother if something that amazing is ongoing?? xD

    Quote Originally Posted by gotpika View Post
    Iwane did confirm that Dragonspiral Tower was going to appear in the anime at some point via his blog.
    Kinda ruins the thought doesn't it? xD Whoops, quoted the wrong post, I meant to quote the 'souryuu's steel tower'-quote... 0.o
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    You can't get expect Excadrill to beat both Druddigon and Haxorus. With all the development Dragonite has been getting lately, he's likely to beat Druddigon just so he and Iris can have a proper win together that doesn't involve disobedience.
    I never said Excadrill to beat both Pokemon. I only said that I wouldn't mind Excadrill getting a win over Dragonite.

    If four of this happen in the Iris episodes and Axew is apparently setting to evolve, Iris has a numbers to leave. Not in this episode but after the League, at least. Of course, if they didn't happen, Iris is going to the filler saga with Ash and Cilan.
    I wish people would be careful about speaking of filler sagas. We don't have confirmation of that yet.

    *Because of the crazy-popularity of Pochama (more than Piplup, y'know) Dawn has some numbers to return to the show in that case.
    **I put this because the RS-Remakes are happening. But isn't necessary to promote May in the main cast ( a cameo is enough).
    ***If Ash goes to Kanto, I see Misty reappearing, but I think that Brock will make a cameo.
    Where is all this coming from? The BW2 games have Kanto Pokemon and gymleaders as well as other gymleaders as well. Just because of that doesn't mean Ash's old Pokemon and Misty needs to show up again. Besides, Ash went to Kanto already back in BF. All of the Kanto Pokemon has been shown a bunch of times. There is no need for it again.


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