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    Quote Originally Posted by wingzx View Post
    ya but i think that happens because pikachu can outspeed raichu
    what's odd is that in the games raichu has a higher speed stat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    what's odd is that in the games raichu has a higher speed stat.
    Not if you evolve it too early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMerle View Post
    And yet it's happened multiple times, Pikachu beating Raichu has happened twice, even if it was always a rematch.
    He said Pichu vs Raichu, not Pikachu.

    We've never had a fully unevolved Pokémon Basic Form, from a basic, middle, stage evolutionary process beat their fully evolved form like:

    Bulbaur vs Venusaur
    Squirtle vs Blastoise

    etc.

    The closest we ever got was Bulbasaur vs Meganium, but Bulbasaur doesn't evolve into Meganium so it hardly counts, especially since Bulbasaur is technically super effective against Meganium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dman_dustin View Post
    He said Pichu vs Raichu, not Pikachu.

    We've never had a fully unevolved Pokémon Basic Form, from a basic, middle, stage evolutionary process beat their fully evolved form like:

    Bulbaur vs Venusaur
    Squirtle vs Blastoise

    etc.

    The closest we ever got was Bulbasaur vs Meganium, but Bulbasaur doesn't evolve into Meganium so it hardly counts, especially since Bulbasaur is technically super effective against Meganium.
    I forgot Pichu even existed, and well I guess at one of the times it didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomper4 View Post
    I think Ash and Trip will be the first round.
    Oh my good idea, I would love this surprise to happen, both already fighting in the first round would be a treat to see!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceGray View Post
    I liked your prediction until you said Oshawott beats Samurott and Snivy beats Serperior. Ever since OS, it has been consistently shown that the power difference between base form and final form is far too great for them to match up. Hell, we just saw it when Tepig and Snivy fought Emboar.
    Yet Tepig beat Emboar...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudruma View Post
    Yet Tepig beat Emoboar...?
    Only after it evolved.

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    Still a stage below Emboar, and it took out Heatmor aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudruma View Post
    Still a stage below Emboar, and it took out Heatmor aswell.
    Yes it did well, but it's nothing to do with the trend being discussed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMerle View Post
    Yes it did well, but it's nothing to do with the trend being discussed.
    Hmm I dunno guy, I think its quite relevant..................

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    Palitoad need to have a lot of screen time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudruma View Post
    Still a stage below Emboar, and it took out Heatmor aswell.
    The ONLY reason Tepig won was because he evolved. As a Tepig, he didn't land a single hit on Emboar. Like I said, base form cannot beat final form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceGray View Post
    The ONLY reason Tepig won was because he evolved. As a Tepig, he didn't land a single hit on Emboar. Like I said, base form cannot beat final form.
    Buizel took out Floatzel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudruma View Post
    Buizel took out Floatzel?
    ^ hes right you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudruma View Post
    Buizel took out Floatzel?
    But Buizel's line is a two stages line. We haven't seen, for example, Turtwig defeating Torterra or Chimchar defeating Infernape.

    1st > 2nd > 3rd

    1st can defeat 2nd (Snivy vs Servine).

    2n can defeat 3rd (Pignite vs Emboar).

    1st has yet to defeat 3rd (Oshawott vs Samurott?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudruma View Post
    Buizel took out Floatzel?
    Example:

    Treecko > Grovyle > Sceptile

    Treecko evolves twice therefore, Sceptile is the final form of Treecko.

    Rattata > Raticate

    Raticate is simply the evolved form of Rattata. When a pokemon only has one evoultion, it is considered its evolved form, not final form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero of Ideals View Post
    Not if you evolve it too early.
    If you evolve Pikachu too early then Raichu won't have Agility(move) which doesn't matter now since Pikachu no longer have it either.

    @Rudruma: There have been so many cases like that and since we are not talking about those its irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceGray View Post
    I don't know if you're trolling or just ignorant. Buizel only has one evolution and therefore does not count.

    Example:

    Treecko > Grovyle > Sceptile

    Treecko evolves twice therefore, Sceptile is the final form of Treecko.

    Rattata > Raticate

    Raticate is simply the evolved form of Rattata. When a pokemon only has one evoultion, it is considered its evolved form, not final form.
    But surely a Pokemon's last form is considered its final form?

    Sir do you need a napkin? Cos you just got SERVED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cresselia92 View Post
    But Buizel's line is a two stages line. We haven't seen, for example, Turtwig defeating Torterra or Chimchar defeating Infernape.

    1st > 2nd > 3rd

    1st can defeat 2nd (Snivy vs Servine).

    2n can defeat 3rd (Pignite vs Emboar).

    1st has yet to defeat 3rd (Oshawott vs Samurott?).

    Tepig took out Samurott in M14, Oshawott did the same to an Emboar. In Gen 1 Pikachu took out Drakes Dragonite.
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    From the looks of the summary, Bel's gonna do pretty well in the league, yay!! ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudruma View Post
    Tepig took out Samurott in M14, Oshawott did the same to an Emboar. In Gen 1 Pikachu took out Drakes Dragonite.
    which has nothing to do with what's being discussed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudruma View Post
    Hmm I dunno guy, I think its quite relevant..................
    How is it? We're talking about a Stage 1 Pokémon defeating a Stage 3 Pokémon, not a Stage 2 Pokémon defeating a Stage 3 and something else, it's completely irrelevent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rudruma View Post
    But surely a Pokemon's last form is considered its final form?

    Sir do you need a napkin? Cos you just got SERVED!
    You genuinely seem incapable of counting to 3.

    We were talking about starters, all of which have Stage 3 evolutions. So obviously a 1st stage taking out a 2nd stage doesn't count, even if the 3rd is it's final form.
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    Ash need to battle Bianca and Stephan! He hadn't a real good single battle against them since their debut! he tag battled against Bianca with Cilan but that I can't count!
    I hope Ash fights all the 5 rivals from the poster! in the next order:
    Virgil, Stephan, Bianca, Trip Koetetsu! (The pokemon used in battle predictions I will post in the Upcoming battle thread)
    My Final B2-normal mode- team:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudruma View Post
    But surely a Pokemon's last form is considered its final form?

    Sir do you need a napkin? Cos you just got SERVED!
    Not necessarily. Look at Togetic: before Gen 4 it was a final form, then it became a 2nd stage and Togekiss became the final stage. Unless Game Freak put a mid-stage Pokemon on one of the previous ones, there is still NO Pokemon that can evolve TWICE that has beaten its THIRD stage. Simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *Nicole* View Post
    When does the Unova League start?
    Good question. I skimmed through the thread (well, some of the pages. It's hard to keep track of all 37+ pages at this point), but I didn't find any useful information about that. I mean it'll obviously start some time after the Iris episodes, but I'm not sure if the writers will give Ash some time to train or if they'll jump right in. Call me pessimistic, but I think they want to end this saga as soon as possible. They probably planned to have Ash lose at the League a long time ago, which would make sense considering how awful Ash has been in this saga as far as training is involved. But that's a topic for another day. I just want to know when the League will start so I can mark my calender and place my bets.

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    I think what your all saying is no such feat has occoured yet This saga has been full of many suprises and the League is never ever straight forward is it?

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