BWS2-19 Unova League Begins [FIRST POST UPDATED 11/8]

[fer92]

Where did U get this info!?? Nowhere was it confirmed!
If the writers want to bring the old ones they will transport them to a other planet not region! So it's more about what the writers want.
I also don't believe they will bring them but U never know!

"IF" they bring them back I want development for Totodile, Gible , Bayleef and Corphish

@Eneci, I used basic logic. But remember that I made a mistake about something that happened in the show.

The reason Paul didn't use Torterra was probably because it's slow as hell, and would get demolished by Infernape who could easily dodge Stone Edges, Frenzy Plant, etc while having that type disadvantage. Electivire on the otherhand, has all the advantages of being fast, powerful and bulky and few of the weaknesses. Neither it nor Infernape have an advantage over the other in terms of moves, and because the two pokemon were more or less rivals

Because Torterra is weak!!!! Since when? I think that's because Paul want to surprise to Ash with a team that hasn't seen before except the main pokemon, Electivire.

[Pokemaniac24]

Where did U get this info!?? Nowhere was it confirmed!
If the writers want to bring the old ones they will transport them to a other planet not region! So it's more about what the writers want.
I also don't believe they will bring them but U never know!

"IF" they bring them back I want development for Totodile, Gible , Bayleef and Corphish

Fer92 always acts like he knows everything but he is wrong most of the time so I wouldn't take what he says seriously.

[vodor]

Where did U get this info!?? Nowhere was it confirmed!
If the writers want to bring the old ones they will transport them to a other planet not region! So it's more about what the writers want.
I also don't believe they will bring them but U never know!

"IF" they bring them back I want development for Totodile, Gible , Bayleef and Corphish

Seriously , Does it matter if Ash use his old Pokemon or not ???
He's going to lose the Unova League anyway .
After all , Ash is not allow to win any Long term Tournament since those are for other character & their fan !
Plus , If Ash really does win the League then Anime stuff going to make it a less-glorify victory .
After all , Writer like Ash to ether lose or have less-glorify victory .

[KibaLG8]

The reason Paul didn't use Torterra was probably because it's slow as hell, and would get demolished by Infernape who could easily dodge Stone Edges, Frenzy Plant, etc while having that type disadvantage. Electivire on the otherhand, has all the advantages of being fast, powerful and bulky and few of the weaknesses. Neither it nor Infernape have an advantage over the other in terms of moves, and because the two pokemon were more or less rivals.

Serperior however, is ridiculously fast and powerful (but might not be so good with tanking hits), and resists electric type moves, and it's his starter. If anything, those reasons gives Trip a reason to use Serperior as his main pokemon (the Junior Cup Tournament was basically to hype it up for the league and give Trip development).

Chimchar fought Elekid and lost, Monferno fought Electibuzz and lost, and Infernape fought Electivire and won.
Pikachu fought Trip's Sniy and lost, then fought Servine and lost. So it will fight Serperior and it will will. And it will be awesome to see the snake lose.

I could easily see Jellicent/Chandelure being the Drapion of the league, sweeping 3 of Ash's pokemon with ease before losing to someone like Krokodille...or Pikachu depending on whether Pikachu is going to be the Charizard/Infernape of this region, sweeping 3 of the main rival's pokemon.

I can see the point your making, but Chimchar never lost or even battled against Elekid. The only thing that happened between them was when they fought alongside each other in the Tag Battle Tournament. But their rivalry was clearly there. Sadly, Pikachu might be the one to take Serperior down. Don't see how any of the starters, Scraggy, Boldore, Leavanny, Krookodile, or even Palpitoad can take it down. Pignite possibly, but only if it was an Emboar.

[Pokemaniac24]

After all , Ash is not allow to win any Long term Tournament since those are for other character & their fan !

Wait, Ritchie, Harrison, Tyson and Tobias have fans!?!?!

[Hero of Ideals]

Seriously , Does it matter if Ash use his old Pokemon or not ???
He's going to lose the Unova League anyway .
After all , Ash is not allow to win any Long term Tournament since those are for other character & their fan !
Plus , If Ash really does win the League then Anime stuff going to make it a less-glorify victory .
After all , Writer like Ash to ether lose or have less-glorify victory .

Okay, what? Let me break thid down for you. Both sides have this problem, when a MC wins all the time and when they lose alot. That's the major flaw in anime, boths sides never agree. Look at Bleach, Yugi-oh, Fairy Tail, Naruto, the list goes on. And the writers don't hate Ash and they're not going to make the same mistakes and have Ash win everything and those like you would eat it up like jelly beans. And 'glorify', seems it's always hating Trip and Iris to as well to some. Understand this, no one and I mean no one is being glorified.

[Groundedshock]

I can see the point your making, but Chimchar never lost or even battled against Elekid. The only thing that happened between them was when they fought alongside each other in the Tag Battle Tournament. But their rivalry was clearly there. Sadly, Pikachu might be the one to take Serperior down. Don't see how any of the starters, Scraggy, Boldore, Leavanny, Krookodile, or even Palpitoad can take it down. Pignite possibly, but only if it was an Emboar.

It is not impossible for Ash's Unova team to take out Serperior. It is Pikachu likely because he has yet to take it but that does not secure him as the only candiate. Unfezant has the speed and Leavanny has great string shot tactics. Also type advantages do not matter in this anime as we have seen many times. Hell they made Serperior one to two shot type disadvantages in the Junior Cup. They made Roxie an overpowered gym leader with overpowered Pokemon despite being a 2nd gym leader.

This series is inconsistent with the power and strength of trainers and their Pokemon. If a trainer is the one they want to showcase, they power up that character to take powerful challenges to a certain point and the other characters are shafted until their turn to shine Trip's Serperior is all for hype for the rivalry.

[wingzx]

Wait, Ritchie, Harrison, Tyson and Tobias have fans!?!?!

didnt Ritchie and harrison both lose tho :P

[vodor]

Okay, what? Let me break thid down for you. Both sides have this problem, when a MC wins all the time and when they lose alot. That's the major flaw in anime, boths sides never agree. Look at Bleach, Yugi-oh, Fairy Tail, Naruto, the list goes on. And the writers don't hate Ash and they're not going to make the same mistakes and have Ash win everything and those like you would eat it up like jelly beans. And 'glorify', seems it's always hating Trip and Iris to as well to some. Understand this, no one and I mean no one is being glorified.

I'm not saying Ash should win all the time but atleast he shouldn't get whip out by a complete newbie just because he appear in the first episode of BW !
You talking about all those anime/Manga then you should see that those Anime/Manga Protagonist doesn't lose their development like Ash.
Even Natsu Who lost 7 year of his life manage to asskick 2 arrogant Dragon Slayer without even using Dragon Force .
Trip is clearly being glorify However some people can't just accept the truth.

[Pokemaniac24]

didnt Ritchie and harrison both lose tho :P

Oops!

Wait, Jon Dickson and that random guy from Kanto had fans!? XD

[Dracoflare]

Wait, Ritchie, Harrison, Tyson and Tobias have fans!?!?!

I'm a staunch fan of Tobias. The way he pulls one legendary after the other out of his *** is impeccable and rivaled only none. If Ash were lucky to have beat 5 Pokemon he would have sent out a Celebi and Time travel back and defeat Ash.

[Pokemaniac24]

I'm a staunch fan of Tobias. The way he pulls one legendary after the other out of his *** is impeccable and rivaled only none. If Ash were lucky to have beat 5 Pokemon he would have sent out a Celebi and Time travel back and defeat Ash.

Yeah and he also had the Mewtwo from Movie 1 so in case he lost, he could havbe Mewtwo wipe away everyone'e memory so the League could start again XD

[dman_dustin]

A Lucario and a Zoroark, **** hide from dman people lol.

LOL. But I don't really care if Kotetsu's has a Zoroark, while Zoroark is pretty cool, I hardly have the same opinion of it as I do Lucario. In fact, I couldn't care less if it never gets on Ash's team.

Besides Ash has two dark types already, and if he was going to get a third, I'd much prefer Hydreigon any day.

[AceDetective]

If he ever gets a 3rd dark type I'd rather it be pure, so the writers have no choice but to treat it as such

[dman_dustin]

If he ever gets a 3rd dark type I'd rather it be pure, so the writers have no choice but to treat it as such

You would rather a Pokémon be completely and utterly redundant over something half redundant and something new to Ash's current team.

Isn't it bad enough Krookodile doesn't really offer anything brand new to Ash's team in regards to its ground/dark typing?

Even if Zoroark was heavily reliant on dark type moves, it still wouldn't offer anything new. Sure Zoroark with Faint Attack (if it can learn it), hone claws, Night Daze, and Dark Pulse would be pretty interesting, but I fail to see the relevance or even point of a pure dark Pokémon. At least Hydreigon would offer Ash a dragon type, or hell Bisharp offers a steel typing.

Zoroark just isn't enough. Plus the only pure types that I like are Dragon, Ghost, Psychic. Anything else I would prefer it have a dual typing. Even I wish Boldore had a secondary typing, well actually I'd prefer it was Gigalith, but Ash isn't going to have his Boldore evolve, so....meh.

[Spindae]

The problem with dark type are their moves. Really aren't good, and regulary give them hyper beam what is . . . .

With exception oF DarkPulse and the new Zorua move they aren't so powerful and effective. They really should work on their movesets and not anime compatible. I'm all for Darktype cause they have nice design and characters, but their movesets are for ***!

[Hero of Ideals]

I'm not saying Ash should win all the time but atleast he shouldn't get whip out by a complete newbie just because he appear in the first episode of BW !
You talking about all those anime/Manga then you should see that those Anime/Manga Protagonist doesn't lose their development like Ash.
Even Natsu Who lost 7 year of his life manage to asskick 2 arrogant

Dragon Slayer without even using Dragon Force .
Trip is clearly being glorify However some people can't just accept the truth.

Why don't you chill and stop taking this show so seriously and stop with the Trip bashing. Ash never lost any development because there is no reset and even if they're was, would they confirm or deny it?
This isn't like shouen anime or Misty would be as bad as Sakura.... And that's saying something.

[vodor]

Why don't you chill and stop taking this show so seriously and stop with the Trip bashing. Ash never lost any development because there is no reset and even if they're was, would they confirm or deny it?
This isn't like shouen anime or Misty would be as bad as Sakura.... And that's saying something.

Then What happen to all Ash's tactical brain when he fight Trip.
After all , The way DP Ash battle's and BW Ash battle's is totally is totally different.
Ash being though Paul so that should enough for him to be ready for a 100 hundred Trip.
What point Ash & Paul's rivalry if Ash develop isn't at all.
Back then in sinnoh League , Ash started to become a decent protagonist but writer all that in a pathetic way.
Now , Ash won't look as strong as Sinnoh Ash Even if Ash win the Unova League.
And The Assistant Director of Best Wishs said himself how they decide to make Ash act like a rookie in this series to bring back the old fun of pokemon in a interview in ''Image-nation''.
He also said that they won't bring any old Pokemon ether beside pikachu.
That time I saw a real idiot talking !!!
Trip just a rival who mainly glorify rather then develop.

[Shraeder]

I hate Trip.

Don't you understand that Ash is suppose to be an underdog? It's been that way for 15 years, and it won't change. I don't see why your complaining about Trip when he's clearly supposed to be similar to Paul since people liked Paul's character.

[Hero of Ideals]

@Vodor, you are a hypercritic, you say DP.Ash is well develop and hate Ash for being his underdog self and still a rookie, but hates on Trip for beating him and being the main focus of Ash's rivals. Now I just like Dawn because I'm starting to dislike the Sinnoh saga. The comparing just won't stop. And also, he want to do a fresh start, he's done that since Hoenn.