BWS2-15: Tag Battle [FIRST POST UPDATED 10/1]

[pokemonsquared]

Well at least this is different from the last 2 COTD tag battle eps. Instead of Ash and girl fighting and losing only to make up for it afterwards, it looks like Ash and Cilan are the ones teaching the COTDs a lesson.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

I think you people are not getting the point behind Cyber's rage. Two Pokemon who were Ash's main Water Types for he whole region are appearing but sadly they don't belong to Ash. To some people it might be a simple coincidence(I am not sure if they happen in Anime) but it surely looks like writers are trolling us.

It doesn't seem like coincidence or trolling.

They live in this region, they used the pokemon just like random Tranquill and Swadloon(common pokemon) were shown in forests.

Buizel and Corpish aren't rare at all.

Cyber is not raging, he is trying to incite others to rage thats his modus operandi.

[Locormus]

I think you people are not getting the point behind Cyber's rage. Two Pokemon who were Ash's main Water Types for the whole region are appearing but sadly they don't belong to Ash. To some people it might be a simple coincidence(I am not sure if they happen in Anime) but it surely looks like writers are trolling us.

I don't see it as a coincidence, but not being a coincidence doesn't always necessarily mean a trolling. This could be a hint as I've said many times before at what's to come at the league, or postleague (reserves?) or just a nod to older fans.

Seriously I agree with Dman, it was ****ing stupid for the writers to show all these other Tranquil's and Swadloon's when Swadloon and Tranquil didn't get ****. Just like it would be a big FU to show any other Palpitoad but Ash's at this point.

There are so many other water types that could of got used, Corphish and Buizel weren't needed.

Okay, so you'd hate it if a pokemon infringes on a pokemon of Ash's of the same species that needs screentime (wild Swadloon over Ash's Swadloon).

Then can we all at least agree that these two Water-types don't infringe on Palpitoad and therefore is a blessing? It's not as if Ash's Buizel and Corphish are due for screentime yet, and this could just be a hint for the league, because it's not as if it isn't realistically possible that the League will start in BW21 for example, only six episodes after.

It doesn't seem like coincidence or trolling.

They live in this region, they used the pokemon just like random Tranquill and Swadloon(common pokemon) were shown in forests.

Buizel and Corpish aren't rare at all.

Cyber is not raging, he is trying to incite others to rage thats his modus operandi.

Ew, a fancy word! :P Me likes!

[Royal_Qeca]

Are you sure? Maybe not to Japan........

Yes Pokemon camoes are reasonable and acceptable.

What do you mean not to Japan?

[Caseydia]

Well at least this is different from the last 2 COTD tag battle eps. Instead of Ash and girl fighting and losing only to make up for it afterwards, it looks like Ash and Cilan are the ones teaching the COTDs a lesson.

I agree. And thank you for getting back on topic. I was a bit lost there. I seem to like Cilan's and Ash's tag battles alot more now. And I'm sure those who must remember Ash and Dawn's back in Sinnoh. So it gives each gender a chance per series. Iris and her pokemon is more complicated. So I don't think it would have worked out.

[dman_dustin]

At least Robert understood my points, everyone else who was "negative" to my posts don't know what the hell I was talking about, so I'd kindly like it if those people stop responding to my posts if they don't understand my posts.

I will say again, I wouldn't have minded if it was Corphish [SIZE=7]OR[/SIZE] Buizel that was showing up, It's just beyond idiotic as to why they both had to show up together, when there are numerous amounts of water Pokémon that could've been shown. Like Marill. It wouldn't be a reference to Tracey's because Tracey's Marill never really interacted with Corphish or Buizel (in a long term kind of way).

But what people aren't getting, is that I don't overly mind that both Corphish and Buizel are here, remember I half agreed with Cyber. It doesn't terribly bother me because I couldn't care less about this episode, since it's another episode without any Palpitoad focus. I just think it's completely idiotic that the "animators" or the "writers" chose to show both Corphish and Buizel. (I don't know if the writers are responsible for background Pokémon, it would be hard to believe a script mentions background Pokémon since a lot of time Background Pokémon hardly get any focus, but there is a high chance Buizel and Corphish do get a script mention). And I can see why it is a slap to the face to fans. Maybe not as big of a slap as it would be if it was a wild Palpitoad (though that would be more comparable to a kick in the groin), but still a slap nonetheless, for the main reason I stated: The writers choose to use these Pokémon species instead of using Ash's. And this doesn't apply just to Ash, what about some random character with a Stunfisk, that shows up more frequently than Cilan's. Or how about some Axew that shows up for a whole episode, gets a lot of focus and ends up evolving, and Iris and her Axew get very little focus in the episode (because it's primarily about Ash training).

Another reason why I'm not overly upset about Corphish and Buizel, is because I couldn't see how Ash's Corphish and Ash's Buizel would be relevant to this specific episode. HOWEVER that reasoning ONLY applies to Ash's Pokémon that are at Professor Oak's. If it was a random wild Palpitoad, you can't use that reasoning because I'd just argue that the writers should've made Ash's Palpitoad relevant and used it instead of some random wild Palpitoad.

[Caseydia]

I feel the same way about that Onix and Larvitar episode as well. Not to mention what they're doing with Meloetta. He probably won't be aloud to catch it in the end. But some of you guys have a point. There are other Hoenn and Sinnoh water type pokemon that are more shafted and haven't appeared in ages. So it would have been nice to see some of them then some of the ones that Ash already has. I mean come on Writers! Think!

[CyberCubed]

If it was JUST Corphish or JUST Buizel appearing than it wouldn't be a big deal.

But BOTH of them appearing? You guys do realize that back in AG and DP Ash stuck with a small team, so we saw the same Pokemon over and over again. Corphish and Buizel got the MOST SCREENTIME in terms of episode count of all of Ash's water Pokemon. We saw them for nearly 180 episodes.

[AceDetective]

So? Let it go Cyber. It's not a big deal

[pokemonsquared]

I just noticed that the mewtwo and deoxys rank is the same for 8k and 25k serebii should add more ranks

[Hero of Ideals]

So? Let it go Cyber. It's not a big deal

It really isn't and at least they picked popular ones or underrated ones. Pokemon make cameos all the time, why now in Best Wishea is this a issue?

[Groundedshock]

It really isn't and at least they picked popular ones or underrated ones. Pokemon make cameos all the time, why now in Best Wishea is this a issue?

Because Best Wishes is the best season for complaining and because Sinnoh overshadows some elements of it.

[CyberCubed]

Because Best Wishes is the best season for complaining and because Sinnoh overshadows some elements of it.

Or maybe this season started off with the potential to be the best but then wound up blowing it.

[Hero of Ideals]

Put

Or maybe this season started off with the potential to be the best but then wound up blowing it.

That's your opinion, but BW has been good so far.

[DuquÊ?]

Yeah, yeah, BW's good/bad as a whole it's a matter of opinion, I know the deal.

Really, I can't see a problem with buizel/corphish cameo. They just need some random episode to show the corphish from the main season 2 poster. I'm fine, I take this episode as a breeze before the Iris episodes.

[_Taidow_]

At least Robert understood my points, everyone else who was "negative" to my posts don't know what the hell I was talking about, so I'd kindly like it if those people stop responding to my posts if they don't understand my posts.

I will say again, I wouldn't have minded if it was Corphish [SIZE=7]OR[/SIZE] Buizel that was showing up, It's just beyond idiotic as to why they both had to show up together, when there are numerous amounts of water Pokémon that could've been shown. Like Marill. It wouldn't be a reference to Tracey's because Tracey's Marill never really interacted with Corphish or Buizel (in a long term kind of way).

I get what you are saying, but please no Marill, we got a bunch of johto pokemon thrown in our face during DP. I would have preferred Corphish and another hoenn water type, but I'm not upset with Buizel.

But what people aren't getting, is that I don't overly mind that both Corphish and Buizel are here, remember I half agreed with Cyber. It doesn't terribly bother me because I couldn't care less about this episode, since it's another episode without any Palpitoad focus. I just think it's completely idiotic that the "animators" or the "writers" chose to show both Corphish and Buizel. (I don't know if the writers are responsible for background Pokémon, it would be hard to believe a script mentions background Pokémon since a lot of time Background Pokémon hardly get any focus, but there is a high chance Buizel and Corphish do get a script mention).

Okay I get what you mean better now. It didn't help that you were using kinda illogical situations like the whole farm of Ash's pokemon.

And I can see why it is a slap to the face to fans. Maybe not as big of a slap as it would be if it was a wild Palpitoad (though that would be more comparable to a kick in the groin), but still a slap nonetheless, for the main reason I stated: The writers choose to use these Pokémon species instead of using Ash's. And this doesn't apply just to Ash, what about some random character with a Stunfisk, that shows up more frequently than Cilan's. Or how about some Axew that shows up for a whole episode, gets a lot of focus and ends up evolving, and Iris and her Axew get very little focus in the episode (because it's primarily about Ash training).

Another reason why I'm not overly upset about Corphish and Buizel, is because I couldn't see how Ash's Corphish and Ash's Buizel would be relevant to this specific episode. HOWEVER that reasoning ONLY applies to Ash's Pokémon that are at Professor Oak's. If it was a random wild Palpitoad, you can't use that reasoning because I'd just argue that the writers should've made Ash's Palpitoad relevant and used it instead of some random wild Palpitoad.

I think that's what I tried to state. That them using older species that Ash has isn't bad.

Well hopefully Palpitoad gets some screentime in the Snivy episode (his VA voices someone else in the episode as well) or the Eeveelution episode. I agree. He's the worst treated pokemon on Ash's current team, so I can relate to your frustration about his treatment. (This coming form a person who hated his capture.)

[1rkhachatryan]

I mean since it is a tag battle episode, two water type counter parts such as Seel and Shellder would of probably been smart lol, lord knows they barely ever appear.

[Squirtle_007]

I mean since it is a tag battle episode, two water type counter parts such as Seel and Shellder would of probably been smart lol, lord knows they barely ever appear.

Seel and Shellder would be a slap in the face to Misty´s sisters´s and Jessie´s fans and OS in general

Because Best Wishes is the best season for complaining and because Sinnoh overshadows some elements of it.

Here comes the Overrated Sinnoh crap again (¬_¬).

[Demon Kitsune Yoko Kurama]

I mean since it is a tag battle episode, two water type counter parts such as Seel and Shellder would of probably been smart lol, lord knows they barely ever appear.

Actually, Staryu and Shellder are counterparts. (o.O) Just saying.

[1rkhachatryan]

Seel and Shellder would be a slap in the face to Misty´s sisters´s and Jessie´s fans and OS in general



Here comes the Overrated Sinnoh crap again (¬_¬).

Haha you hilarious -_-.

Actually, Staryu and Shellder are counterparts. (o.O) Just saying.

Wtf?? How??