Community POTW #91

[2406Blackbird]

Feel My RHY POWER!!!

[DizzyCobraMew]

Superior
Adamant/brave
Item : leftovers or ground gem
Ability : solid rock/lightningrod
EV's 252 attack, 100 defense, 152 SP.def
Aqua tail/outrage/iron head
Earthquake/drill run
Superpower/ice punch
Stone edge/dragon rush

As we all know rhyperior gets a VERY nice move pool and a lot if coverage for its weaknesses you can even use an eviolite on rhydon and it will be more defense but will have less attack power

Going old school
Rhydon
Item: Eviolite
EV's 252sp.def/defense, 100 attack 152 SP.def or 152 defense
Drill power
Mega horn/shadow claw
Fire punch
Stone edge/smack down/ice punch

Never use any Special moves on them they don't have the capability to do enough damage they have many moves to use on sets so there ore tons of possibilities there is enough to make dozens of sets

[KingTorterraXIV]

I am still amazed how bulky Rhydon is with Eviolite.

It is amazing

[firerank9]

So this week is Rhyperior...let's see what good combos I can come up with.

Rock of Electic Power
Ability: Lightningrod
Nature: Careful (+ Sp Defence/-Sp Attack)
Item: Cell Battery (+attack if hit with an Electric move)
EVs: 252 Sp Defence/252 Attack/4 HP
Moves
Hammer Arm
Thunderpunch/Thunder Fang(You choose)
Earthquake
Rock Wrecker

The thing with this build is that it's primarilly make for double battles with ether a Flying type Pokemon or a Pokemon with the Ability Levitate. The Cell battery WILL absorb an electric attack and then amp up Rhyperior's Attack stat, even if the opponent lanches the attack at your other pokemon. The weak point with this is that Rhyperior can't be teamed up with a Pokemon with moves that cause damage to all sides of the field, like surf.

I even came up with something for Rhyhorn

Pre-horned 101
Ability: Rock Head
Nature: Brave (+ Attack/-Speed)
Item's: Eviolite/Life Orb
EVs: 252 Attack/252 HP/4 Sp Defence
Moves
Poison Jab
Megahorn
Superpower
Take Down

Hope you enjoy these till next week...LatOr.

[Sceptile Leaf Blade]

So this week is Rhyperior...let's see what good combos I can come up with.

Rock of Electic Power
Ability: Lightningrod
Nature: Careful (+ Sp Defence/-Sp Attack)
Item: Cell Battery (+attack if hit with an Electric move)
EVs: 252 Sp Defence/252 Attack/4 HP
Moves
Hammer Arm
Thunderpunch/Thunder Fang(You choose)
Earthquake
Rock Wrecker

The thing with this build is that it's primarilly make for double battles with ether a Flying type Pokemon or a Pokemon with the Ability Levitate. The Cell battery WILL absorb an electric attack and then amp up Rhyperior's Attack stat, even if the opponent lanches the attack at your other pokemon. The weak point with this is that Rhyperior can't be teamed up with a Pokemon with moves that cause damage to all sides of the field, like surf.

I even came up with something for Rhyhorn

Pre-horned 101
Ability: Rock Head
Nature: Brave (+ Attack/-Speed)
Item's: Eviolite/Life Orb
EVs: 252 Attack/252 HP/4 Sp Defence
Moves
Poison Jab
Megahorn
Superpower
Take Down

Hope you enjoy these till next week...LatOr.

Take down is always a no-no. Even without recoil, Return has more PP, more power, and more accuracy, and pretty much everything gets Return. Also, Rhydon and Rhypherior should always run STAB. It's STAB moves offer amazing coverage, and you have good enough STAB moves to fill the slots before starting to even remotely consider Poison Jab.

Anyways, Rhypherior is basically what Rhydon was in 3rd gen. Hard hitter on the physical side, defensively powerful on the physical side, but very very slow, and dies to any Surf aimed at its path. The only thing it can do is get in on physically inclined pokémon to cause them to switch, hit the switch in hard with a choiced move, and then get out before you die to Surf, Scald, Giga Drain, or Grass Knot.

I've also seen some pokémon suggest Rock Wrecker. Just don't, it's basically the Rock version of Giga Impact, and there is a reason nobody uses Giga Impact. The turn locked in after use where you can't do anything is destructive. If you come in with Rhypherior, an opponent tends to switch to some bulky counter that can handle your offence, like Swampert. They take the hit, and then you are stuck and forced to take the Scald/Surf coming from Swampert and you are dead.

[jon199]

I honestly don't care what anyone says about Rhyperior, he's awsome. Lots of people have been saying that they like Rhydon... which I guess they have reason to... but it's evolution is a beast when used right.

The dancing... rock?
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge/Rock Wrecker
-Swords Dance
-Substitute/Aqua Tail
Item: Leftovers
Ability: Solid Rock
252 Hp/ 252 Def/ 4 Attk
Impish Nature (+ Def, - Attk)

It may not look like much, but it works (for me at least). Earthquake and Stone Edge are there for reasons that don't need to be explained. Please don't use Rock Wrecker unless you are sure you can KO something. You have to charge up a turn afterwards. I strongly recommend Stone Edge instead.
Swords Dance is one of the main moves of this set. Once Rhyperior gets a SD up, it has MASSIVE attack, letting it destroy almost anything in it's path. Substitute helps you gain that boost. If you can manage to sub at the right moment, like when your opponent switches or boosts themselves, you have a good chance of pulling off this sweep.
Solid Rock is the best ability for Rhyperior in general. Many types hit for 4x the damage. Through reducing super effective attacks to 2.66x the damage, it will help against many opponents who think they can OHKO you.
This set takes time to know when to switch into it, but if you can manage to do it right and set up, you have a pokemon easily able to 6-0 a team.

[sixonesix]

Solid Rock is a better ability on Rhyperior even in doubles. Unless you specifically need Lightningrod for your team you should be using Solid Rock. There's using Rhyperior for Lightningrod and then there's using Rhyperior for Rhyperior, you know?

Cell Battery does not activate on Electric-immune Pokemon, so it's useless on Rhyperior.

[SuperArtNinja]

I used a bulky Rhydon in OU once, it worked out MUCH better than I thought it would, it was pretty funny. Would I use it in OU again? Nah, but I would throw it on a UU team if I could... Despite needing SandStream... But, yeah, here's my Rhydon set that could take Surfs and Hydro Pumps somehow and Phaze...

This is a Rhydon set

WHY U NO GET SOLID ROCK?!
Ability: Both useless for this set but I guess Rock Head... But in Doubles Lightning Rod could be better...
Item: Eviolite
Nature: Careful/Sassy
Evs: 252 HP/ 252 Sp.Def/ 4 Def
Moves:
Rest
Sleep Talk
Curse/Stealth Rocks/ Rock Slide/ Earthquake/Stone Edge/Toxic/Roar
Dragon Tail

ALWAYS use this in Sandstorm. It is imperative that Rhydon gets that 1.5x Sp.Def bonus from Sandstorms. Hazards are always welcome with Dragon Tail shuffling. And an upside to Sleep Talk is that if some just so happens to be slower, there's a possibility you can outspeed (impossibru), Sleep Talk and phaze with Dragon Tail, potentially immobilizing your opponent for one whole turn and getting some hazard damage on your opponent. There are a lot of options for Rhydon's third move or whatever... It can Curse to be bulkier and hit harder with Dragon Tail, set up rocks, hit with a STAB move, poison the opponent or you can give Roar for a higher phaze chance and ultimate lulz. Rhydon can do all of these. Rhydon is very capable of troll.

[Quagsireking]

Oh rhyperior, you were gifted an amazing ability but not the typing or the special defence you truly needed.
Onto the set:

Hyper-ydon
Ability: Solid Rock
Nature: Brave
Evs: 252 att 252 hp 4 sp def
item: Leftovers
-Curse
-Avalanche
-Rock Blast
-Earthquake/Fire Punch


The main focus of this set here is to be a slow killer and with the placement of ev's, curse and leftovers; you will achieve that goal. First move is curse: Curse is a MUST for rhyperior because let's face it, your never going to be the fastest poke. So you use curse to capatalize on that. Next is avalanche, which i really don't get the lack of use of this move. I mean your going to get hurt by your opponent, so why not capatilize on that with a move that gains double the power after you get hurt? Next is another good curse-pherior set move: Rock blast. The prospect of a multiple hitting STAB move is to great to pass up. After one curse, any flying or ice type will not survive unless they are extremely bulky. And finally is the coverage moveslot, earthquake is a great STAB move for massive coverage.

(I may edit this later for grammar and spelling)

[Aura Flare Riolu]

Saw a set with Lightningrod and Cell Battery earlier. No matter what Pokemon has it. Lightningrod and Cell Battery do not work together. For Cell Battery to work, it has to take damage from an Electric attack for it to activate and Lightningrod (And Volt Absorb) or a natural immunity negates all damage.
Also another thing. If the Pokemon is naturally immune to Electric, Lightningrod's effect to raise Special Attack will not activate.

[Grim712]

Not that anyone cares for gimmicks but in doubles I find it fun to use eviolite Rhydon with the ability Lightningrod on a rain team, use Soak on Rhydon and attack with Aqua Tail. If there is any interest i'll edit this post with my set

[Kraleck]

Soak is the probably the best Move option for a Doubles/Triples partner, though few Soak users have a spare Moveslot to waste on it. Changing quad-Weaknesses to a simple Weakness, the other quad-Weakness to a different simple Weakness, and getting rid of the other Weaknesses? Great for avoiding your weaknesses, but you do lose out on the Sandstorm buff for Rock Types, Grass Knot still hits like a truck, and you have to worry about Discharge after the Type change...

As for Rock Head on Rhyhorn & Rhydon, you do get Double-Edge from Gen 3 & 4 Tutors, so that's an option for Eviolite sets' lack of useful Abilities...

[Ilan]

LOL Rock Wrecker never use it for the same reasons no one uses Giga Impact (with the exception of some slakings) when using it you give the opponent the chance to revenge kill you (which isn't that hard with that speed and Sp.defense) I won't post a set cause I never used him (though I have a week to try it).

but I think a 252 HP, 252 attack is the preferable EV spread on most sets it is made to be a physical tank which nukes with it's stellar attack.
If only he had a priority move he might have been good at OU (maybe a rock priority next gen)
He is good at walling physical attackers cause of solid rock physical ground and fighting moves might even 3HKO instead of 0HKO or 2HKO grass and water moves will probably still KO..

It have rock polish as set up move with base 140 attack rock polish can be used effectively (it still be hard to outspeed some threats..)

Rhyperior have something no other fully evolved pokemon except golem have STAB Quake-edge which is resisted by few it can also use aqua tail to make for those who do resist it.

[NIGHTOWL22]

I think rhyperior is going to see less use in this generation (was he even used much before, maybe?) with Rhydon back at the top of rock/ground pile, a terrible pile but it's still good to be on top thanks to eviolite, defence out of this world, special defence now quite passable, with sandstorm support INCREDIBLE, even it's 4x weaknesses aren't going to be making Rhydon flee in terror.

[Shraeder]

Rhyperior@Leftovers
Solid Rock
Careful Nature(+Def, -Sp. Atk) 252 Def, 150 Atk, 102 HP
-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock
-Stone Edge
-Hammer Arm/Megahorn/Thunder Punch

[NoteLobo]

OK I am going to be honest. This set by all rules of Pokemon should not work. Ever. If you have been playing this game for awhile you will look at this set and say, WTF is he doing? But then you use it. And it works so well it makes you want to table flip everything you know about the game. I would like to introduce you people to the crazyness that is the aplynamed Speedferior.

Speedferior
Rhyperior (M) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Solid Rock
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Rock Polish
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Rock Wrecker/Stone Edge/Rock Slide
I know you are going to look at this set and tell me I'm stupid. But then you should take a look at Rhyperior's stats and you realize this actually works. Rhyperior's terrible base speed looks pretty pitiful, until you double it. Then you are working with a speed of 392. Faster then Shaymin-S, faster then Meloetta's second form, faster then wevile and tornadus-t, it gives you a base speed higher then a pokemon with a base speed of 128. Now add in a Focus Sash and Solid Rock and the odds of Being OHKO'd by anything other then skill link cloyster or Techloom packing bulletseed (Which is a problem for everyone) are little to none. Now add in your 372 attack and the your great bulk and you should OHKO or 2HKO most everything. I have used this set extenisivly, and one thing that cannot be discounted is sunrise factor. No one ever sees the fast Rhyperior coming! EVER!!!!! The moveset is great as well, earthquake is great as a stab and as a move in general it just needs to be there. Ice Punch is great for coverage and manages to grab the 2HKO on defensive Gliscor (Your faster then all but Rock Polish variants) and an OHKO on attacking versions, you can OHKO Dragonite after stealthrocks damage, and you can kill the aforementioned Tornadus-T by out speeding it for one of the most satifying KO's in the game. Your Rock type move is where you hit a snag really, you have a few choices, the unholy power of Rock Wrecker lets you take huge pieces out of even resisted pokemon, but then you have the turn of recovery, Stone Edge gives less power but less accuracy as well, Rock Slide is even less power but does let you have more accuracy, so that whole thing is a toss up. A Smack Down Earthquake combo is viable but Speedferior really misses its powerful rock stab.

All in all this is just one of those ideas that when you come up with it you don't think it will ever work. Then you use it and it works beautifully. You may disregard Speedferior as that stupid thing that some other guy uses. Just don't meet it in a back ally.

[Ilan]

OK I am going to be honest. This set by all rules of Pokemon should not work. Ever. If you have been playing this game for awhile you will look at this set and say, WTF is he doing? But then you use it. And it works so well it makes you want to table flip everything you know about the game. I would like to introduce you people to the crazyness that is the aplynamed Speedferior.

Speedferior
Rhyperior (M) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Solid Rock
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Rock Polish
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Rock Wrecker/Stone Edge/Rock Slide
I know you are going to look at this set and tell me I'm stupid. But then you should take a look at Rhyperior's stats and you realize this actually works. Rhyperior's terrible base speed looks pretty pitiful, until you double it. Then you are working with a speed of 392. Faster then Shaymin-S, faster then Meloetta's second form, faster then wevile and tornadus-t, it gives you a base speed higher then a pokemon with a base speed of 128. Now add in a Focus Sash and Solid Rock and the odds of Being OHKO'd by anything other then skill link cloyster or Techloom packing bulletseed (Which is a problem for everyone) are little to none. Now add in your 372 attack and the your great bulk and you should OHKO or 2HKO most everything. I have used this set extenisivly, and one thing that cannot be discounted is sunrise factor. No one ever sees the fast Rhyperior coming! EVER!!!!! The moveset is great as well, earthquake is great as a stab and as a move in general it just needs to be there. Ice Punch is great for coverage and manages to grab the 2HKO on defensive Gliscor (Your faster then all but Rock Polish variants) and an OHKO on attacking versions, you can OHKO Dragonite after stealthrocks damage, and you can kill the aforementioned Tornadus-T by out speeding it for one of the most satifying KO's in the game. Your Rock type move is where you hit a snag really, you have a few choices, the unholy power of Rock Wrecker lets you take huge pieces out of even resisted pokemon, but then you have the turn of recovery, Stone Edge gives less power but less accuracy as well, Rock Slide is even less power but does let you have more accuracy, so that whole thing is a toss up. A Smack Down Earthquake combo is viable but Speedferior really misses its powerful rock stab.

All in all this is just one of those ideas that when you come up with it you don't think it will ever work. Then you use it and it works beautifully. You may disregard Speedferior as that stupid thing that some other guy uses. Just don't meet it in a back ally.

Never use rock wreaker in wifi.. and focus sash? with those stats? I would put life orb or lum berry instead.. he have solid rock after all...

[firerank9]

OK I GET IT! Rock wreaker is bad!
And as far as Aura Flare Riolu's quote...

Saw a set with Lightningrod and Cell Battery earlier. No matter what Pokemon has it. Lightningrod and Cell Battery do not work together. For Cell Battery to work, it has to take damage from an Electric attack for it to activate and Lightningrod (And Volt Absorb) or a natural immunity negates all damage.
Also another thing. If the Pokemon is naturally immune to Electric, Lightningrod's effect to raise Special Attack will not activate.

I honestly did not know, i would have sugested differently so, thanks Aura Flare Riolu.

[carrot rust]

I hate steels
Rhyperior (M) @ leftovers
EVs: 4 def / 252 Atk / 252 hp
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- block
- focus punch
- Earthquake
- substitute

The idea behind this set is to lead the rhypherior against a bronzong or registeel, neither of which will be able to break the substiute, this opens the game up for CB flygon/kingdra later, and unlike with magneton, the opponet will see no reason to not lead with his bulky thang. In addition, it can pull off the normal sub punch set, albeit weaker to things like 1 attack togekiss(assuming you let the opponet know you have block). of course, snorlax can technically do this entire set better....

[KingTorterraXIV]

I hate steels
Rhyperior (M) @ leftovers
EVs: 4 def / 252 Atk / 252 hp
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- block
- focus punch
- Earthquake
- substitute

The idea behind this set is to lead the rhypherior against a bronzong or registeel, neither of which will be able to break the substiute, this opens the game up for CB flygon/kingdra later, and unlike with magneton, the opponet will see no reason to not lead with his bulky thang. In addition, it can pull off the normal sub punch set, albeit weaker to things like 1 attack togekiss(assuming you let the opponet know you have block). of course, snorlax can technically do this entire set better....

You mention Bronzong, but Ryperior cant do anythign to bronzong in general. Even if you hti it with a Focus Punch, it still doesnt that much.

Block is way too situational to use. Rhyperior is too slow to make use of it, and well any pokemon that uses Block or other moves like it has a gimmick to them (aka Prankster Murkrow w/ Mean Look and Perish Song)