Type disadvantages/advantages

[Mr.FusRoDah]

I've never been able to figure out why Dragons are almost universally weak to Ice. Perhaps it's because of their cold blood?

Either way, Pokemon's types make more sense than virtually any of the type match-ups in Final Fantasy. Some examples include Fire being weak to Ice.

I figured that Dragons are weak to Ice because of the fact that the ice age ended the dinosaurs, or some form of global cooling at least. Cold bloodedness has a lot to do with it.

[Ver-mont]

I've never been able to figure out why Dragons are almost universally weak to Ice. Perhaps it's because of their cold blood?

Exactly. Dragons are like giant reptiles, so they're very sensitive to sudden temperature drops.

[Moonlight_Tails]

Now that I think about it. Dragons being weak to ice doesn't really make sense to me. Especially Rayquaza. It lives in the upper atmosphere which is freezing. Other Flying Dragons like Dragonite surely must fly to great hights as well.

[Wishing Star]

Now that I think about it. Dragons being weak to ice doesn't really make sense to me. Especially Rayquaza. It lives in the upper atmosphere which is freezing. Other Flying Dragons like Dragonite surely must fly to great hights as well.

I'm not the best at meteorology, but when Rayquaza, Dragonite, or Salamence fly up into the air, the temperature gradually cools as they increase in altitude. Being encased in ice, on the other hand, would be a sudden, instantaneous temperature drop, which they wouldn't be able to handle.

[Moonlight_Tails]

Yes but ice also forms on wings and such flying at high altitudes.

[Ver-mont]

Yes but ice also forms on wings and such flying at high altitudes.

It's still not a sudden and drastic temperature drop.

And who's to say they don't have to move a lot slower or something when they're flying at high altitudes?

[Wishing Star]

Yes but ice also forms on wings and such flying at high altitudes.

Assuming there is actually ice that high up in the sky, when they fly, the ice doesn't just magically suddenly cover the entirety of their wings or body, but rather gradually. Again, the Ice type would use sudden changes in temperature against them rather than gradual changes.

[BCVM22]

Dragons being weak to ice doesn't really make sense to me.

Dragons are reptiles, reptiles are cold-blooded, exposing a cold-blooded animal to cold temperatures slows them down and makes them sluggish, sometimes to the point of death if the exposure is cold enough and long enough.

[Wishing Star]

It may have been asked before, but what's the explanation behind Steel being super effective against Ice and Rock?

[Ver-mont]

It may have been asked before, but what's the explanation behind Steel being super effective against Ice and Rock?

The tools used to break those things (like... ice picks, ice axes, drills) are usually made of steel or metals. I guess that's it.

[Wishing Star]

The tools used to break those things (like... ice picks, ice axes, drills) are usually made of steel or metals. I guess that's it.

Err...

Flash Cannon and Gyro Ball... uhh... gosh, this is harder than I thought (no pun intended).

[Moonlight_Tails]

This is exactly why I say they should make a wind sub type

Actually I think they should just change Flying Type to Wind or Air.

Err...

Flash Cannon and Gyro Ball... uhh... gosh, this is harder than I thought (no pun intended).

Yeah, Flash Cannon defies logic. How do you break a rock with light? Gyro ball would make more sense if it did more damage by the pokemon being faster not slower. Like a Wrecking Ball.

[Wishing Star]

Actually I think they should just change Flying Type to Wind or Air.

Why's that? Not all Flying-type moves have to do with wind or air.

[Ver-mont]

Err...

Flash Cannon and Gyro Ball... uhh... gosh, this is harder than I thought (no pun intended).

Yes, there are the special moves, but I guess that's the logic behind the type itself being super effective (and well, Steel was originally Physical-only anyway).

[Wishing Star]

Yes, there are the special moves, but I guess that's the logic behind the type itself being super effective (and well, Steel was originally Physical-only anyway).

Hmm, I guess that's true.

Now that I think about it, I think almost every type matchup in the book has been covered.

Wait a second... Ground being super effective against Steel? Fire burns it, whereas Fighting dents it, but Ground... ground shakes demolish steel girders and beams and such that buildings are made out of?

[BCVM22]

Yes, there are the special moves.

Gyro Ball isn't even Special, while we're at it.

but Ground... ground shakes demolish steel girders and beams and such that buildings are made out of?

Sounds perfectly reasonable.

[Ver-mont]

Wait a second... Ground being super effective against Steel? Fire burns it, whereas Fighting dents it, but Ground... ground shakes demolish steel girders and beams and such that buildings are made out of?

Reasonable. Or maybe they made it so because metals come from earth, they're part of it.

I can't really think of a good explanation for this.

Gyro Ball isn't even Special, while we're at it.

Oh, that's true. My mistake.

[Wishing Star]

Sounds perfectly reasonable.

Reasonable.

Awesome. (:

Or maybe they made it so because metals come from earth, they're part of it.

Eh, I'll take it. Ghosts are effectively just physical representations of what's in the mind anyway, and Ghost is super effective against Psychic.

[Ver-mont]

Eh, I'll take it. Ghosts are effectively just physical representations of what's in the mind anyway, and Ghost is super effective against Psychic.

And the fear of ghosts is a common phobia, so it's reasonable for it to be super effective against the type that represents the mind (just like the fear of bugs).

[Wishing Star]

And the fear of ghosts is a common phobia, so it's reasonable for it to be super effective against the type that represents the mind (just like the fear of bugs).

Exactly. :P

Which reminds me... Bug and Ghost?

[Moonlight_Tails]

Exactly. :P

Which reminds me... Bug and Ghost?

Ghosts don't scare easily? IDK

[Wishing Star]

Ghosts don't scare easily? IDK

In the same vein, how is Dark super effective against Ghost?

[WhyHelloThere]

In the same vein, how is Dark super effective against Ghost?

Because Ghost needs another weakness other than itself.

Would any other option make sense?

[Mr.FusRoDah]

Because Ghost needs another weakness other than itself.

Would any other option make sense?

Because irl paranormal research, spirits often percieved as the spirits of the dead are said to be a lot weaker than the spirits of openly inhuman entities, despite the fact that neither one were ever human. In other words, a demon is stronger than a spectre proclaiming itself as a dead person, likewise dark pokemon are the superior of ghost-types. Likewise, often psychic mediums often try to summon the spirits of the dead, and sometimes get a demonic entity who doesn't disguise themselves as a subjugated dead man's ghost, and these demonic spirits cannot be grasped by psychics. Thus why Psychic attacks are useless against dark types. Of course, dark-type pokemon are not demons, they are animals and humanoids, like any other pokemon. They just have traits based off of some creepy stuff in the world of irl paranormal research, but tbh, they are one of my favorite types to use. Scrafty is a huge fav for me.

Oh, a pokemon that creeps me out - SABLEYE! Based off of a demonic entity seen in Kentucky.

[Wishing Star]

Because Ghost needs another weakness other than itself.

Yes, but that doesn't mean that Dark had to be that type. That type could've been Psychic and it would've worked fine.

Of course, the explanation by Mr. FusRoDah suffices.