"GRASS" the worst starter and possibly type??

[YourPermanentRecord631]

This. Haunter is much more likable than Gengar.
I prefer Mime Jr. over Mr. Mime too.

You know, this subject deserves a proper thread.

*goes make one*

Yeah I agree some can look batter than their fully evolved forms

[Nyarlathotep]

*goes make one*

Don't forget to link us.

[ParaChomp]

Don't forget to link us.

Not if I do it first!

On topic, can't wait for Dream World Serperior. Doing a one man run in Black 2 and it's doing great.

[bolter1]

Well actually, lightning apparently helps grass and plants (indirectly of course otherwise it would cause a fire) which could explain grass's resistance to it. For the sake of giving it another advantage just to make it on more equal terms with fire and water, sure I guess grass can >electric. It is a lot more far fetched than it resisting electric though. What can grass, or even the tallest tree do against a bolt of lightning?

The nitrogen gas that is released from the atmosphere by lightning helps plants grow.

[Nyarlathotep]

Not if I do it first!

You late, buddy.

[Poliwhirl'sMittens]

The nitrogen gas that is released from the atmosphere by lightning helps plants grow.

Precisely, I even posted a small link a while back *goes to find it*

Apparently lightning can be beneficial to plants o.o

[Wishing Star]

And yet, one Grass Starter is OU (Venusaur), one fire starter is OU (Infernape), one fire starter is UBER (Blaziken) and not a single water type reached OU. (As far as I know, Swampert is currently the closes thing to an OU water starter.)

"The only really 'strong' starter type is Water" doesn't mean just the five fully-evolved Water-type starters. It includes every other Water-type out there. The same goes for Grass and Fire.

Having said that, I've always found Kingdra to be really good, for some reason.

[XXD17]

Sceptile is kinda useless :/

Awww...so much sceptile hate it's my second favorite grass type after serperior...it can function decently as a revenge killer...it can outspeed chomp and it's movepool is amazing on both ends...I'll admit it's not great but it's far from useless...

[WingBlast]

I feel the urge to say ( as the creator of this thread) that my Jarlorda became pretty useless after the 5th gym in black. T__T so grass is indeed worse the other 2 starter types and probably the other types :<

[DragoniteRules1]

I've never actually used any Pokemon that are pure grass or part grass. I always choose the water type starter (if I played a Kanto game, I would use Charmander, but that's it).

[Excitable Boy]

I feel the urge to say ( as the creator of this thread) that my Jarlorda became pretty useless after the 5th gym in black.

Needs moar Coil.

[1rkhachatryan]

How dare you!!! Sceptile and Venusaur are awesome ....

[Mitja]

How dare you!!! Sceptile and Venusaur are awesome ....

dare what?
Grass is inherently weaker defensively and offensively, doesn't matter what pokemon happens to be Grass, but it is hindering their potential as a consequence.

[Specter Vyle]

dare what?
Grass is inherently weaker defensively and offensively, doesn't matter what pokemon happens to be Grass, but it is hindering their potential as a consequence.

Google "Torterra"

[YourPermanentRecord631]

How dare you!!! Sceptile and Venusaur are awesome ....

Being fast sweepers in battle, I agree, along with nifty movepools

[ZoruaBoo]

Well sure, they have a lot of weaknesses, but be careful how you use the word 'worst'.

Grass are probably the weakest out of the starters, but for some people that is a good thing! Because Grass types are hard to train and fight with, people might like to pick them because they are a challenge. I chose Snivy because I wanted to make the game a bit harder, so I wouldn't use the word 'worst'.

But yeah, these are my opinions, I generally don't actually like Grass that much.....

[Pierce571]

Grass ain't weak. Sure grass is weak to a lot of types but Sceptile and Serperior are just to awesome to be called weak lol

[Wishing Star]

Grass ain't weak. Sure grass is weak to a lot of types but Sceptile and Serperior are just to awesome to be called weak lol

But that's saying that the Pokémon of the Grass type aren't weak, not necessarily that the Grass type itself isn't weak.

[Pierce571]

But that's saying that the Pokémon of the Grass type aren't weak, not necessarily that the Grass type itself isn't weak.

I am not sure what you mean with that but I meant to say that the grass starters aren't weak and definitely not the worst. Sure grass types are weak to 5 types but that doesn't necessarily mean the grass starters are weak

[Wishing Star]

I am not sure what you mean with that but I meant to say that the grass starters aren't weak and definitely not the worst. Sure grass types are weak to 5 types but that doesn't necessarily mean the grass starters are weak

When you say that the Grass-type starters are or aren't weak, you're analyzing only whether those starter Pokémon are or aren't weak. You're not saying that the type itself is or isn't weak.

[Pierce571]

When you say that the Grass-type starters are or aren't weak, you're analyzing only whether those starter Pokémon are or aren't weak. You're not saying that the type itself is or isn't weak.

That's true but that's because I am talking about the starters as a whole, not just their type. This thread is about grass being the worst type for starters and what I am trying to say is that despite grass being weak to five types they can still be pretty strong, in which good examples are in my opinion, Sceptile and Serperior.

[Wishing Star]

That's true but that's because I am talking about the starters as a whole, not just their type. This thread is about grass being the worst type for starters and what I am trying to say is that despite grass being weak to five types they can still be pretty strong, in which good examples are in my opinion, Sceptile and Serperior.

By extension, the question does also ask the question of whether or not Grass is the worst type out of all seventeen, too.

But yeah, Grass-type Pokémon can be extremely deadly if used correctly. They may require more to be used correctly (as many are support Pokémon, unlike Water- and Fire-type sweepers), but by no means does that mean that the type is bad.

[Mitja]

Google "Torterra"

What is your point?

What I said holds true for Torterra too.

[SapphireBlueEyes7799]

*sighs* Let's get this strait. Some Grass types are so called "Weak" and some are "strong". Every single Pokemon has their weaknesses, and every single person has their favorites. I personally love grass types and think they're amazing, but I also don't really like some grass Pokemon, Sunflora and the Hoppip line. Others may hate grass and love Poison. Someone could hate Poison and love steel. We all have our preferences. And no Pokemon is exactly useless. Yeah, sure, they aren't the best types or horrible stat wise, but that means nothing. I mean, I hate Garbodore but my friend swept with one the other day. It's stupid to argue about this because, no matter what, you'll all be arguing over wheather or not they're strong/weak. Because the truth is, as I said, before, every Pokemon has their strengths/weaknesses.

[!jirachi!]

pure grass is bad but if the get a second type the become beasts