"GRASS" the worst starter and possibly type??

[Mitja]

Well actually, lightning apparently helps grass and plants (indirectly of course otherwise it would cause a fire) which could explain grass's resistance to it. For the sake of giving it another advantage just to make it on more equal terms with fire and water, sure I guess grass can >electric. It is a lot more far fetched than it resisting electric though. What can grass, or even the tallest tree do against a bolt of lightning?

Drain the Electric poke of its electricity and redirect it into the ground maybe?... :S

[AquaWarrior]

It could work, though. Nintendo has changed typing mechanics in the past, but you're right, it most likely wouldn't be the best of ideas. I could imagine many fans being upset with the change.

Gamefreak wouldn't care.

[XXD17]

I may be biased but grass types really aren't that bad...sure offensively they can't hit hard and they do have a plethora of weakness BUT they are good at staying alive in battle especially with the sleep powders and leech seeds, they can be pretty darn annoying. Look at tangrowth, ferrothorn, venusaur, breloom, shaymin, and ludicolo...sure they aren't hard-hitting and they do have easy counters BUT if you don't have that specific counter, it they have the potential to walk all over you...My personal faves are sceptile and serperior...the former is a great revenge-killer and the later has the potential to be a potent sweepe...

[needsalimegreenespeon]

Uh, well... I usually have a grass type on my team. I loved my Lilligant on my dream team Black. I don't play as smartly as most players do, (I make sure the nature won't hinder my pokemon, that's about it). Meganium is one of my favorite pokemon, along with Whimscott and, of course, Lilligant. In fact, if I recall, Lilligant saved my butt against Elesa's Zebstrika...

[zapto369]

I may be biased but grass types really aren't that bad...sure offensively they can't hit hard and they do have a plethora of weakness BUT they are good at staying alive in battle especially with the sleep powders and leech seeds, they can be pretty darn annoying.

I agree, and this is one reason I actually like grass types fairly well. Plus some of them are just pretty cool, like Serperior.

[Archstaraptor]

Whimsicott is very versatile and annoying, Maractus is a great chlorophyll sweeper+spikes support, Cradily is a brutal wall(though it is rock too) and Serperior will be an amazing sweeper with contrary under its belt.Status moves like spore also belong to grass types.
It's not necessarily all about type disadvantages though-it depends more on move combos and abilities sometimes-and grass types have plenty of these at their disposal.

[MugoUrth]

Well, the only really "strong" starter type is Water.

Both Grass and Fire are not that good.

And yet, one Grass Starter is OU (Venusaur), one fire starter is OU (Infernape), one fire starter is UBER (Blaziken) and not a single water type reached OU. (As far as I know, Swampert is currently the closes thing to an OU water starter.)

[your boss]

And yet, one Grass Starter is OU (Venusaur), one fire starter is OU (Infernape), one fire starter is UBER (Blaziken) and not a single water type reached OU. (As far as I know, Swampert is currently the closes thing to an OU water starter.)

Swampert was OU until it's usefulness dropped it to UU but still a good mon regardless!

[AquaWarrior]

Swampert was OU until it's usefulness dropped it to UU but still a good mon regardless!

Sceptile is kinda useless :/

[Nyarlathotep]

And yet, one Grass Starter is OU (Venusaur), one fire starter is OU (Infernape), one fire starter is UBER (Blaziken) and not a single water type reached OU. (As far as I know, Swampert is currently the closes thing to an OU water starter.)

Both Swampert and Empoleon were OU in Generation IV.

...when the only Fire Starter in OU was Infernape.

[your boss]

Sceptile is kinda useless :/

That.....has nothing to do what I quoted MugoUrth about!

[SapphireBlueEyes7799]

Sceptile has started to get fans with it's Aerobatica crap and stuff. I personally never used Sceptile. I like Grovyle better x)

I have an issue with liking pre-evolutions over fully evolved Pokemon. *facepalms*

[Nyarlathotep]

I have an issue with liking pre-evolutions over fully evolved Pokemon. *facepalms*

It is not only you, I pretty much prefer a lot of the mid-evolutions over the fully evolved ones.
Specially when we are talking about starters.

For example:

Charmeleon > Charizard
Ivysaur > Venusaur
Bayleef > Meganium
Grovyle > Sceptile
Monferno > Infernape
Dewott > Samurott

[SapphireBlueEyes7799]

It is not only you, I pretty much prefer a lot of the mid-evolutions over the fully evolved ones.
Specially when we are talking about starters.

For example:

Charmeleon > Charizard
Ivysaur > Venusaur
Bayleef > Meganium
Grovyle > Sceptile
Monferno > Infernape
Dewott > Samurott

*sends FR*

I perfer Haunter > Gengar.

[Nyarlathotep]

*sends FR*

I perfer Haunter > Gengar.

This. Haunter is much more likable than Gengar.
I prefer Mime Jr. over Mr. Mime too.

You know, this subject deserves a proper thread.

[your boss]

This. Haunter is much more likable than Gengar.
I prefer Mime Jr. over Mr. Mime too.

You know, this subject deserves a proper thread.

*goes make one*

Yeah I agree some can look batter than their fully evolved forms

[Nyarlathotep]

*goes make one*

Don't forget to link us.

[ParaChomp]

Don't forget to link us.

Not if I do it first!

On topic, can't wait for Dream World Serperior. Doing a one man run in Black 2 and it's doing great.

[bolter1]

Well actually, lightning apparently helps grass and plants (indirectly of course otherwise it would cause a fire) which could explain grass's resistance to it. For the sake of giving it another advantage just to make it on more equal terms with fire and water, sure I guess grass can >electric. It is a lot more far fetched than it resisting electric though. What can grass, or even the tallest tree do against a bolt of lightning?

The nitrogen gas that is released from the atmosphere by lightning helps plants grow.

[Nyarlathotep]

Not if I do it first!

You late, buddy.