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Successful grass type use lies in attacks like leech seed and ingrain. Combined with a healthy does of poison powder, you've got most matches tied up. I have even taken out fire types with that combo. Hit em with something hard after wards and its over.
ehh personally ill take a grass type over a bug, steel or poison but its still usually like the last pokemon on my team strength wise
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Fire types are awesome
Sure, grass types are weak to fire, bug, flying, and poison, but they have great stats and moves that keep them from dying. My Serperior here is:
252 Sp. Attk., 252 Speed, 4HP
Which does some major killing. Glare Paralyzes the foe, which can cause it not to move on and off. Ingrain, Leech Seed, and Giga Drain combined with Big Root deals some damage too, causing my Serperior to be a real pain, gaining all that HP.
And I have to mention that, Empoleon's typing of Steel makes it take normal damage from fire. And yes, I know Torterra become the same way with it's ground Typing, and Infernape becomes weak to Psychic.
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Last edited by SapphireBlueEyes7799; 27th October 2012 at 11:31 AM.
True, Grass is the worst defensive type next to Ice, and offensively is quite lackluster. I'm not denying that Grass types can be good. Ferrothorn, Torterra and Celebi are all great pokemon. But Grass types are definitely disadvantaged because of the type chart.
As for the worst type, I'd say either Poison or Ice is worse. Poison is terrible offensively, though pretty good defensively. Ice is very good offensively, hitting 4 key types including Dragon, but has no resistances bar itself and crippling Rock and Fighting weaknesses. The Ice type is actually renowned for its types attacks rather than the pokemon themselves.
Ice is indeed the worst type in the game. It is not worth using a Ice-Type Pokémon in your team, all you really need are Ice-Type moves.
OK, can somebody help me? I'm friggin tired of these posts everywhere about how grass starters suck. I'm not talking about competitive battling stuff, or how good the type is, but I'm talking about this meme/mentality that people have that Grass starters suck. Just because the original Fire type starter was a dragon (an animal known as one of the coolest of them all) and that Fire and Water can directly hurt people, but Grass can't, that caused this mentality that Grass sucks! I'm so freaking annoyed by that. When I look at funny pictures about Pokemon on Memebase or something, and now and then I see one about how the Grass starter sucks and that "nobody" picks them! Do they think it's funny to piss people off like that? And the comments just say "You're wrong, I love the Grass Starter!" and none of them address how much of a problem this is! Can someone help me?
Lol they do suck dude i like picking bulbasaur for example because it makes the game more challenging and i need to actually build a team to pass gyms
Shortcut to damage calculatorOriginally Posted by Professor Oak
Grass type Pokemon may have a lot of weaknesses and generally poor offensive stats; however, that doesn't mean that they're completely useless or weak. Grass type Pokemon have their own methods of fighting, and it's more of the defensive way (especially HP absorbing moves and status changing moves) that really makes the grass types shine. While they may serve better as supporters, they can still be deadly in the right hands.
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I use water type so I battle grass type starters even if i'm using a type other then water they can be challening (maybe bucause you probly wouldn't catch me using fire types much)
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I just want to know if the hate comes from the reputation of grass in real life, or the gameplay being too hard with the Grass starter. I'd rather it be about the gameplay, because if it's about the former reason, that proves how dumb people are. That they just want the one that looks cool (Charizard) and hate the least cool looking Pokemon. That is what makes me mad. I hope it's because they suck ingame and not out of the game. Because I agree, even though I always picked te Grass starter, that they have many weaknesses and barely any moves to counter them. But I don't want it to be a physical appeal thing.
^I personally think it's because the game is generally more challenging if one doesn't know how to handle a Grass type effectively. At least with fire type and water type starter Pokemon, they learn some strong offensive moves earlier on; however, a different strategy is required when you go with grass types. Most of the grass Pokemon seem to be more defense oriented and as a result, the player needs to know how to play defensively with a strategy of defeating his or her foes. Of course, there are the more offensive based grass types; however, most seem to be less offensive from a standpoint. They learn less offensive moves; however, they still have some deadly moves in status inflicting moves as well as some other long term effect moves.
I personally love grass types as while they may take longer to muster, they're worth the challenge and can be very useful and fun team additions.
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I think a defensive Fire starter is long overdue.
I mean, Grass and Water usually do something new and have had quite a variety.
Grass has had a spA/spD, mixed defense, a fast sweeper, atk/def, and a quick and bulky annoyer. The only thing it didn't do yet is a serious mixed offense.
Water has had mixed defensive, atk/def, bulky atk, spA/spD, mixed offense. The only thing it hasnt tried so far is something fast.
special sweeper (literaly the same stats as first)
same just faster
same but high HP instead of speed
not to mention the last 3 were all Fighting, while Grass/Water have 3 pure types each..
They need to stop that and try to make a Fire starter that doesn't have both attack stats 100 or higher...
Heres what Id add next to spice things up.
Something that packs a punch and does it fast for Grass... a Grass/Flying starter with stats along the lines of:
like a physical version of Charizard now that I think of it lol.
A defensive Fire starter!
Some serious threat. Water/Dark or Water/Fight or Water/Poison even... we haven't seen that type since Venusaur too lol.
Last edited by Mitja; 28th October 2012 at 1:11 AM.