"GRASS" the worst starter and possibly type??

[DizzyCobraMew]

I mean, the weaknesses and strengths of grass are fine. I just learned why grass is weak to poison.

Is it because poison will like wear your grass out or burn it?

[TheEmeraldKnight]

I think grass types are just fine. Most of my favorite starter pokemon are grass

[AquaWarrior]

Is it because poison will like wear your grass out or burn it?

Poison sucks the nutrient out of the plant and acts like a virus I believe :P

[Bobby Soxer]

I like the grass type I think it's fine as is.

[GenosectArceus]

Grass types have a good advantage over Water types in the beginning, then TM13 and TM14 come around and Grass types aren't that effective unless its a Pokemon with high speed and wide movepool.
Torterra is a perfect example; it can be KO'ed by Empoleon by Ice Beam or Blizzard if successful.
Fire is another problem. I once used Abomasnow and I faced an Octilery. The Octillery had a Focus Sash, and I was disappointed that Giga Drain didn't KO it. Unfortunately, Octillery also had Flamethrower.

Seriously Grass has many type combos that make it receive 4x damage from certain types.
Grass/Ice & Grass/Steel - Weak to Fire
Grass/Ground & Grass/Flying - Weak to Ice
Grass/Dark & Grass/Psychic - Weak to Bug
Grass/Fighting & Grass/Bug - Weak to Flying

However some types combos aren't as weak to certain types.
Grass/Rock - 2x damage from Bug and Steel.
Grass/Water - 2x damage from Bug, Poison, and Flying.

Grass/Fire would be a decent combo, because then it would only take 2x damage from Poison, Flying, and Rock. Give such a Pokemon good Speed and a Psychic and Rock attack and it can be have good resistance to commonly used Pokemon that have Stone Edge or Rock Slide (Machamp and Volcarona with Hurricane)

However, there would probably be another Pokemon to counter it. Also the ability a Grass/Fire Pokemon has may affect its performance in battles.

[Endolise]

I like Grass-types, and generally I do choose the Grass Starter.

Poison is the worst offensive type, and Rock is probably the worst defensive type.

[Nibbles4Ever]

I don't think grass is the worst although it certainly isn't the best either.

[Thunderstrike18]

Grass is not the worst type imo.Its just like every other type with a few differences.Its not the best type either though its in the middle.

[DizzyCobraMew]

Grass is not the worst type imo.Its just like every other type with a few differences.Its not the best type either though its in the middle.

Right, and just cause of the MANY weaknesses it gets a bad rep

[Wishing Star]

From what I've seen, many people dislike the Grass-type because of its many weaknesses.

Most people who don't factor in weaknesses in deciding whether or not a type is good don't like the type because of its generally different style of moves when compared to the Water or Fire types.

[red2000]

it's not that its bad, it's that it just isn't all that useful truth be told neither is Fire and you literally just not use the water starter and be fine, but the Grass starter is usually pretty useful for the first Gym (except Johto)

[jireh the provider]

Grass type are my personal faves. Fire types may have the type and power while Water has the resistance and bulk and some versatility. But grass types, among the three (on personal tastes), have the largest amount of versatility compared to water types.

Look at Ferrothorn, being part steel type hates fire big time but it's resistances multiplied a ton and only special type users can finish him without activating iron barbs. Great for playing defensively and offensively.

Breloom and Virizion's part fighting may give issues to flying attacks. But their part fighting gives them an extra helping hand dealing with steel and Ice types (two of Grass type's biggest rivals).

Torterra is one of the best examples of being a worthy ground type. Normally, he hates poison types and steel. but give him a ground type, and he can fight back to those two types. Plus currently, he's the only starter that can use a rock type attack (bar Hidden Power) like stone edge.

Sceptile is what you could see as the Alakazam of Hoenn starters. High Speed and Special attack. But has a nice and impressive physical attack as well. Give him a swords dance with acrobatics (with flying gem), Leaf blade, and Dragon Claw, you may need to think twice now with he speed boost.

Whimsicott is personally my most hated grass type due to abuse status attacks via Prankster (Dang I hate people who prank others intentionally). With both defensive screens, Leech seed, Tailwind, and more, its gonna ruin your day.

Roserade and Venusaur's part poison is nice as a supporter, and when dealt right, they can be lightning bruisers to your team. Most likely, under the Rain and Sun respectively. The plus would be the east to take a fighting type attack and retaliate.

[TheEliteEmpoleon]

As much as I hate grass, your argument is invalid. Heck, Ice is just as weak as grass, if not more. Every type is there for a reason. Grass is weak to poison because when nature gets poisoned, it turns corrupt and dies. Easy.

[Excitable Boy]

Get thee to a type chart.

Grass is niche defensively, since it resists Ground and Electric. The only other Electric resists (immune, w/e) are Ground and itself (the former of which is already a very good type, and the latter of which doesn't count), and the only other Ground resists (immunes) are Flying and Bug (both of which are sub-par defensively). Yes, Grass has weaknesses. That's why they're called other Pokemon. Offensively, it's one of Water's only two weaknesses, besides Electric.

Stop sucking up to Ground types, because those become even more prevalent when you remove Grass, due to the increased freedom given to both Ground and Electric.


To those of you hating on Fire types, they're not defensively oriented. Look at their resists and weaks. Weaknesses are common, good attacking types, resists are defensively leaning. Use Fire types to break through defensive Ice and Steel types, and use other 'mons, like Water types, to handle Fire resists.

Learn to play the game and use the characters the way they were intended.

[MegaSerperior]

I love Grass. It's meant to be used as a support role for its team. Like every type, you have to be able to work with its strengths and work around its weaknesses.

[blackterminator3]

Grass types are fine with me.

[Asmoday]

i like grass types

[gustavo 14]

Get thee to a type chart.

I'm sorry, but that's just so gloriously done, I need to point it out. Kudos to you.

Grass is niche defensively, since it resists Ground and Electric. The only other Electric resists (immune, w/e) are Ground and itself (the former of which is already a very good type, and the latter of which doesn't count), and the only other Ground resists (immunes) are Flying and Bug (both of which are sub-par defensively). Yes, Grass has weaknesses. That's why they're called other Pokemon. Offensively, it's one of Water's only two weaknesses, besides Electric.

Stop sucking up to Ground types, because those become even more prevalent when you remove Grass, due to the increased freedom given to both Ground and Electric.


To those of you hating on Fire types, they're not defensively oriented. Look at their resists and weaks. Weaknesses are common, good attacking types, resists are defensively leaning. Use Fire types to break through defensive Ice and Steel types, and use other 'mons, like Water types, to handle Fire resists.

Learn to play the game and use the characters the way they were intended.

As for the rest, I have to agree completely. Each type serves it own purpose in dealing with other types in various ways. The type's own weaknesses and strengths aren't enough to determine its usefulness. Now when the specific weaknesses and strengths of said type are considered, then a type's use is easier to see, and then it can ultimately be seen that no type is too shortchanged at all. I know you said that and better, but this is my little word on the topic.

[halloweenghost]

I take offense to that lol I always start every new gen with the grass type.. only second games like emerald would i not do so.

[WingBlast]

So, is it safe to say that the 3 starter types are on bar with each other?

And I do understand why poison is SE against grass. I just understand why it is only SE against grass..when it could also be SE against water and Dragons. And i never really understood why grass isn't SE against poison!!! Herbal remedies > poison!!