Continuity can be the most frustrating thing about this anime. But even worse than that is knowing that there could be a better Pokemon anime instead. :c
This stuff started disappearing during Orange Islands but by the time Johto started it was completely gone. Even the original trio didn't feel the same as it was in Kanto, mostly thanks to Misty losing her temper and Brock not being as funny as he was before. It was just stale.
Brock without doubt developed, im not denying that. He became more understanding finding common language with dis functional family developing nice bond with Forest being filled with pride when he became gym leader.
We can see Brock enriched his knowledge learning how to be better breeder by exchanging tips with others, learning how to prepare new type of food or medicine. He learned how to take care of sick pokemon in crisis situations improving as pokemon caretaker. And was faced with bug dilemma whether ti remain breeder or pursue doctor career with foreshadowing kinda happening already at end of Battle Frontier.
However in comparison i feel Misty changed the most as character right after May who of course got most growth. More than Dawn and even Iris did. She started all cranky only being concerned about Ash repaying bike, had very low brink of tolerance and exploded over every smallest thing. But over time she grew accustomed to Ash and Brock viewing them as "new family". Interacting with Ash was lately of more lighthearted nature teasing him and getting annoyed in more friendly way(though sometimes she was still ready to bite head of) as well helping Brock about problems like romance issues. Comparing her at end of Johto and Hoenn with Kanto i noticed she started to grow as person becoming more level headed not needing to rely on Ash or Brock so much anymore, more selfconfident getting over complex of feeling less worthy compared to sisters helping others about same issue(like Sakura), learned how to apply new strategy and develop skills as trainer still bringing comedy, fun interaction and conflict in main cast ,becoming more independent and mature starting to take more initiative herself finding right balance between her tomboyish and girly side.
I liked how she established great relationship with several characters(like Sakura, Egan, Marina ,Egan etc) ,how she found courage to defeat Gyarados fear, managed to gain sisters respect and save gym, had several wins and memorable moments during her run with her skills as water trainer being recognized improving rapidly with top 8 in Whirl Cup, winning Seaking contest, Alto Mare race etc, reflecting that.
She seemed that she definitely grew over time quite a bit actually.
Not to mention as time goes on characters evolve with chemistry between them changing, but that in no way doesn't change fact how AMB group still had excellent dynamic between themselves in Johto.
AG, DP or BW cast are interacting differently in mid and at end of their respective sagas since friendship grew and characters evolved, but i don't see you saying how quality of their interactions got worse because of it.
I watched Johto several times and Ash,Misty and Brock were even closer as friends than they were in Kanto acting like they know themselves for years becoming more mature.operated on different level in this saga compared to Kanto.Ash became less impulsive and bratty starting to mature, Misty became more timid and sarcastic using jokes and less temper not being so aggressive to Ash and Brock like she was in Kanto becoming closer as friend,while Brock put them in check when conflict would arise being less shy in approaching girls.
Granted Misty and Ash didn't argued as much like before but i say there was still dynamic between those two in Johto. She was still annoyed when acting stupid or getting lost in forest( when he tried to wash Brock Onix with water or didn't tried her soup in "Sick Daze" for example) . I remember they still had that rivalry between themselves and Misty still liked to tease him frequently making jokes. For example in Chinchau episode when group got separated she was making fun how he is perfect choice to get lost or eat all supplies, ,when she teased and tricked Ash in wearing costume of Octillery to help Marcellus etc. Their friendship was on more endearing note being imbued with lighthearted humor and moral support and while there wasn't as much fights between them compared to Kanto she often came up with snarky comments and jokes, being annoyed with Ash stupidity who always backhanded comments directed toward him.
For record Misty still had her temper showing it several times in Johto, but since she started to mature and grow as person she became less explosive like she used to be in early Kanto days becoming more independent. For same reason Ash was less impulsive and more levelheaded in Hoenn, May was less ditzy and insecure at end of AG era etc.
All of this are examples of character development , evolution.
I'm frustrated at Ash being dumbed down in BW. When I saw he had lost to Snivy, I was like, "Wad dafuq? Oh well, the saga will get better". Then I watched all the way to Elesa's gym, which is still decent due to me being a HUGE Bianca fan, I saw Ash vs Elesa, and I was like "WHAT IS THIS NONSENSE!". The same gym, Sinnoh's Gym 4 and Unova's Gym 4. Both are treated totally differently. Pastoria Gym Battle had an epic Buizel vs Floatzel showdown, and a saga later, same gym, we have this stupid Ash thinking he can oneshot everyone with Palpitoad.
Also frustrated at Iris's smug moments. She isn't much better.
Credits to Sworn Metalhead
Legendary Pokemon spam by that one trainer facing Ash in the Sinnoh League semifinals. It's like the writers sis not want Ash to win, but had to think of something completely ridiculous to make him lose.
Team Rocket's potential being wasted.
The cancellation of the Plasma vs Rocket episodes. Not just this in general, but I was hoping the series would take a more mature/complex route.
Ash not evolving enough of his Pokemon
Oh, and Pikachu winning/tying against strong/legendary Pokemon, but losing to weak ones.
Last edited by Ryechuu; 16th January 2013 at 10:25 PM.
Do NOT make Fennekin repeat history GameFreak. I'm begging you!
When Ash left all his pokemon behind after Johto, I was just completely frustrated. As well as when Brock and Misty left.
Force of Habit
Onix KOing Pikachu with Screech...
I try to use at least one Pokemon that is new to me each time I play through a game.
There are lots. team rocket trying to get pikachu again and again. ash never ages. going for a fresh start everry region. changing the main cast.
“We do have a lot in common.
The same air, the same Earth, the same
Maybe if we started looking at
what's the same instead of
always looking at what's different,
...well, who knows?”
Tobias in general
Ash's Pikachu losing to Tripp's beginner Snivy
Krookodile defeating Dragonite
Ash losing all the leagues
Most of Ash's gym battles annoy the hell out of me for reasons I cannot explain
Ash being the "chosen one" in pretty much all the movies
Why won't Oshawott evolve?
Ash barely ever reusing or even less paying a visit to his old Pokemon
These are just some of the things that annoy me from the top of my head.
You mean when Pikachu was stunned by a legendary electric plant? Yeah, I don't think he would have lost without that plot.Ash's Pikachu losing to Tripp's beginner Snivy
Oh, so you wanted Dragonite to beat yet another pokemon in the Junior Cup?Krookodile defeating Dragonite
Agreed. He'll probably lose the next one too.Ash losing all the leagues
Maybe it's because it was huge, slow and because Turtwig and Grotle already got some good battles out of it. It was Infernape's turn.Torterra
Better than pity badges.Most of Ash's gym battles annoy the hell out of me for reasons I cannot explain
Hmm, in the DP ones him and Dawn were pretty much focused. The reason the BW ones were was because Iris and Cilan are sidekicks.Ash being the "chosen one" in pretty much all the movies
I guess the same reason Pikachu, Piplup and probably Axew won't.Why won't Oshawott evolve?
You mean like in BF and all of the leagues before that or now when Charizard will be showing up? You do know that Ash has over 20 pokemon right? Why treat them so special when he catches some in new regions? It will probably be the same why next series.Ash barely ever reusing or even less paying a visit to his old Pokemon
Good for you Yuyama. Too bad you've singlehandedly torpedoed any lingering respect I and anyone else had for you.Shokotan: "And then, in Extremespeed Genesect: The Awakening of Mewtwo, we meet another Mewtwo!"
Yuyama: "Yes, I thought it'd be better if it was a different Mewtwo."
There's a few things that have annoyed me about the anime, but one thing that really gets on my nerves is how someone scans a Pokemon with the pokedex that they've already seen in the past.
Like in the episode where Ash battles Roxie, he already saw Koffing in the past so many different times, and yet....he scans it again?
Also, I used to be puzzled about how the group could carry so much stuff around with them, but then I considered the idea that some backpacks are made with technology similar to what is used to hold Pokemon in Poke Balls. Dawn probably wanted to bring a suitcase instead for the sake of organization, but since she only had one dress, she could pull it out of the backpack with no trouble. It would also explain the tables and cookware that can be carried around without a hint of struggle.
Another thing that annoyed me was Team Rocket's Wobbuffet, and how he pretty much made their motto more painful for me to watch and listen to. That, and I HATE how James eventually ended up saying "Surrender now or prepare to fight, fight, fight!"
Man, that was frustrating as hell.