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    I just don't get it. I for once use Jirachi as my central pokemon (which is my favorite legendary). Why make Jirachi focus only on the Sp. defense when it could go for both of it defenses? I mean, cosmic power increases both, right.

    Evs. 252 HP, 128 Def, 128 Sp. Defense.

    I'd gave him a type of attack like this.
    -Drain Punch - healing purposes and surprise to heatran and tyranitar
    -Iron head - just for stab and flinching possibilities
    -Wish - obvious of course
    -Cosmic Power - ups both defense by one level


    Now I know so far it was meant to have a stall match against the New BIRD tornadus and unexpectedly Draco meteors from the Lati twins. But What are the most dominant attackers in OU / Ubers? Are there more special attackers/physical attackers, or mixed sweepers?

    I find Jirachi best as a mixed setter you see. I find him more of an offensive mage (SP atk) or a vanguard (Mixed attacker) thanks to his 100 all base stats. Are jack of all trades pokemon mediocre?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jireh the provider View Post
    I just don't get it. I for once use Jirachi as my central pokemon (which is my favorite legendary). Why make Jirachi focus only on the Sp. defense when it could go for both of it defenses? I mean, cosmic power increases both, right.

    Evs. 252 HP, 128 Def, 128 Sp. Defense.

    I'd gave him a type of attack like this.
    -Drain Punch - healing purposes and surprise to heatran and tyranitar
    -Iron head - just for stab and flinching possibilities
    -Wish - obvious of course
    -Cosmic Power - ups both defense by one level


    Now I know so far it was meant to have a stall match against the New BIRD tornadus and unexpectedly Draco meteors from the Lati twins. But What are the most dominant attackers in OU / Ubers? Are there more special attackers/physical attackers, or mixed sweepers?

    I find Jirachi best as a mixed setter you see. I find him more of an offensive mage (SP atk) or a vanguard (Mixed attacker) thanks to his 100 all base stats. Are jack of all trades pokemon mediocre?
    I think that sets like this are just outclassed by CM Jirachi. You invest fully in HP and Defence, making him pretty tough on the physical side, but have Calm Mind to boost his SDef and also SAtk, meaning it can do some heavy damage too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jireh the provider View Post
    I just don't get it. I for once use Jirachi as my central pokemon (which is my favorite legendary). Why make Jirachi focus only on the Sp. defense when it could go for both of it defenses? I mean, cosmic power increases both, right.

    Evs. 252 HP, 128 Def, 128 Sp. Defense.

    I'd gave him a type of attack like this.
    -Drain Punch - healing purposes and surprise to heatran and tyranitar
    -Iron head - just for stab and flinching possibilities
    -Wish - obvious of course
    -Cosmic Power - ups both defense by one level


    Now I know so far it was meant to have a stall match against the New BIRD tornadus and unexpectedly Draco meteors from the Lati twins. But What are the most dominant attackers in OU / Ubers? Are there more special attackers/physical attackers, or mixed sweepers?

    I find Jirachi best as a mixed setter you see. I find him more of an offensive mage (SP atk) or a vanguard (Mixed attacker) thanks to his 100 all base stats. Are jack of all trades pokemon mediocre?
    There's just a couple of problems that I see with this set. For one thing, 252 / 128 / 128 is usually a pretty bad way to split EVs up. It's usually best to aim for a jump point in either stat to optimize EVs or aim for a certain benchmark (i.e. enough Def / SpD to survive a certain attack). In Jirachi's case, a 252 HP / 96 Def / 160 SpD with an Impish nature (or swap the Def / SpD EVs with a Careful Nature) would give you very balanced defenses, with a slight emphasis on the side with the positive nature.

    The main other issue I see here is what seems to be a real lack of Jirachi's potential. Usually, if you want to boost bulk, it's best to just go with a Calm Mind set. That way you can build up a lot of offense as well as defense, which will in turn give Jirachi a much better chance of doing some real damage to an opposing team. With only Cosmic Power, Jirachi just doesn't seem to do much besides be really, really bulky. Kind of a waste of setup when you could be sweeping with Calm Mind instead.
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    My favorite defensive core is Physically defensive Forretress and Specially defensive Jellicent. I'm not a fan of dumping spdef into Forry or def into Jelli, whether that makes me bad or whatever. But yeah, I love this core. Jelli's epic typing, and Forry's massive defense. Also, Forry can set up hazards while Jelli can spin block.

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