Alakazam and Metagross

[Mythicalzoe]

Alakazam-5000
Metagross-four supercomputers

One of these is smarter than our entire human population since human began to exist 100,000 years ago.Do you have any idea how insane a 5000 IQ is its absolutely incomprehensible that what.Alakazam is so intelligent that one of them alone could build a type 2 civilization in a day imagine an entire colony of these geniuses working together.With such intelligenct they should be a galactic level civilization and left that rock they live on currently.Same can be said for Metagross but since Metagross has a computer brain its even more absurd these guys arent a galaxy level civilization.
Now Im wondering how on earth humans are the dominant species on the Earth in the first place.All pokemon seem to understand Human language so they have average human intelligence but apparantly no desire to advance themselves.I have always wondered what exactly a wild Kadabra does besides Meditate.
Why do they listen to us when they could calculate 1000 moves in one second heck they precognition to see any move their opponent uses.Its amazing how the Abra line obeys humans so blindly even though they are insanely smarter than us.
Now you could say they are benevolent beings but that still doesnt explain why they are have shown no signs of advancing their race.
Perhaps every human is in a tube and the pokeworld reality is just a virtual simulation and the Alakazam are the true rulers of the world and imprisoned humans into being trapped in this simulation.This might explain they virtualness of the pokemon world in general the stats and all that stuff.
Anyone who says OH THEY LOVE HUMANS
These are not Gardevoir these are being with an IQ of 5000.Its like saying an alien grey should obey an ant.Which is absurd we are cockroaches to them why do they listen us maybe they are just retarded.

Discuss

[CakeGuy]

you cannot base in game logic on real life logic.

do so and you'll just frustrate yourself

[Blany]

First of all... use this thread to discuss just one or two Pokemon. http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthr...cussion-thread!

Secondly, Pokemon are stronger when they are with humans. Their bond probably gives them strength. Show me one wild Pokemon who is EV Trained.

[TheDarkKnightFalls]

First of all... use this thread to discuss just one or two Pokemon. [url]http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?511782-The-official-Pokemon-Discussion-thread!

Yeah, go here.

[PokeMaster366]

First of all... use this thread to discuss just one or two Pokemon. http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthr...cussion-thread!

Secondly, Pokemon are stronger when they are with humans. Their bond probably gives them strength. Show me one wild Pokemon who is EV Trained.

We could also say that they are smart enough to know that if they were to help humans advance like that, it would take all the fun out, and I bet the humans are very touchy whenever they can't figure things out by themselves or aren't allowed to do that.

[I-am-the-peel]

First of all... use this thread to discuss just one or two Pokemon. http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthr...cussion-thread!

Secondly, Pokemon are stronger when they are with humans. Their bond probably gives them strength. Show me one wild Pokemon who is EV Trained.

It's not their bond, but the selective training methods from a human. Blindness only comes into it when you are using one of the moves frustration or return. The whole "bond" thing only applies to the anime and manga really.

[Blany]

It's not their bond, but the selective training methods from a human. Blindness only comes into it when you are using one of the moves frustration or return. The whole "bond" thing only applies to the anime and manga really.

So... all the Pokemon in the Games are emotionless, empty shells? Quite unlikely. It not being included in the Game Mechanics does not mean that is does not happen.
There is a kind oh 'happiness' which is incomprehensible to humans, of course. However, indeed, I also thought about their Training Methods after posting.

Also, I think that instead of closing this thread, moderators should just change its name, as it actually quite a relevant discussion.

[Scammel]

One interpretation of oddities like this is that the pokedex is not actually self-recording, but being filled in by the player themselves. Hence you get some incredulous instances like this, or bizarre stories such as the one where the boy is turned into a Kadabra. It's the character observing, picking up stray facts and anecdotes, sprinkling some theatrical exaggeration and filling in the 'dex.

[Blany]

One interpretation of oddities like this is that the pokedex is not actually self-recording, but being filled in by the player themselves. Hence you get some incredulous instances like this, or bizarre stories such as the one where the boy is turned into a Kadabra. It's the character observing, picking up stray facts and anecdotes, sprinkling some theatrical exaggeration and filling in the 'dex.

Telekinetic Powers, however, need a lot of brain power to achieve. While they may not be that intelligent, they had to be close.

[Endolise]

You assume that just because they have really high IQs, they want to take over everything.


You'd think they'd be smarter than that.


Also, IQ only refers to the efficiency with which one can process and connect information in their brain; it's not about how smart one is.

[T-Bolt]

Also, IQ only refers to the efficiency with which can process and connect information in their brain; it's not about how smart one is.

Exactly! I've seen many articles on people who have the same IQ as Einstein and all in the papers, but these people haven't really accomplished much.

IQ=/= smartness or technological advancement.

[TheDarkKnightFalls]

You assume that just because they have really high IQs, they want to take over everything.


You'd think they'd be smarter than that.


Also, IQ only refers to the efficiency with which can process and connect information in their brain; it's not about how smart one is.

Look at this post.

[RaZoR LeAf]

IMO, the Pokedex entries are based on folklore, legend and rumour, and should not be considered fact. This would explain why they are so contradictory of the actual truth. If Charizard "spits fire that is hot enough to melt boulders" then it should be able to defeat rock types in seconds, but the fact is that it cannot. However an observer of Charizard may see one spitting fire that over time, melts a boulder, then they can mince their words and leave out certain truths to exaggerate what they see or know. Have you never heard that lemmings jump of clifs to their deaths, or ostriches bury their heads in the sand, or that earwigs crawl into our ears when you sleep? All untruths, but people believe them, because they are passed around as facts.

So does Alakazam have an IQ of 4000? No, but it's probably pretty smart and when it was observed by the people who wrote that, was determined to be considerably smarter than any other pokemon that were around it.

Does Metagross have the brain power of four super computers? Doubtful, but what's to say when the entry was written it didn't? The iPhone is more powerful than the computer than put Apollo 11 on the moon. Back in 1979, it was considered a super computer.

Just because the pokedex says something, doesn't make it true.

[Psychic Politoed]

Just because the pokedex says something, doesn't make it true.

I think the bigger idea about this topic is that the OP forgot about the "Pokemon are our friends" moral to the story, and the fact that this is a game series marketed mainly to younger audiences.

[emboarrocks]

There's this nice comic that explains why the pokedex has stupid entries. Here it is:http://imgur.com/a/LQBqj. Warning: contains swearing.

[Cutty]

That IQ is not high enough in pokemon universe. They have their own standards.

[Blany]

IMO, the Pokedex entries are based on folklore, legend and rumour, and should not be considered fact. This would explain why they are so contradictory of the actual truth. If Charizard "spits fire that is hot enough to melt boulders" then it should be able to defeat rock types in seconds, but the fact is that it cannot. However an observer of Charizard may see one spitting fire that over time, melts a boulder, then they can mince their words and leave out certain truths to exaggerate what they see or know. Have you never heard that lemmings jump of clifs to their deaths, or ostriches bury their heads in the sand, or that earwigs crawl into our ears when you sleep? All untruths, but people believe them, because they are passed around as facts.

So does Alakazam have an IQ of 4000? No, but it's probably pretty smart and when it was observed by the people who wrote that, was determined to be considerably smarter than any other pokemon that were around it.

Does Metagross have the brain power of four super computers? Doubtful, but what's to say when the entry was written it didn't? The iPhone is more powerful than the computer than put Apollo 11 on the moon. Back in 1979, it was considered a super computer.

Just because the pokedex says something, doesn't make it true.

This is true, but the Pokedex entries must be exaggerations of real facts, meaning that there actually is some truth to it. IQ is different from intelligence, yes, like knowledge is different from intelligence. However, Uxie is still stated to be the most intelligent Pokemon and knowledge is replace by intelligence in some Pokedex Entries.

When Uxie flew, people gained the ability to solve problems. It was the birth of knowledge.

It is said that its emergence gave humans the intelligence to improve their quality of life.

However, Telekinetic Powers still require a lot of brain power... or maybe more accurately... willpower.

[Inferno Vulpix]

First) Game Freak doesn't care too much for a perfection of logic. If such a flaw exists in the logic of the continuity of the Pokemon world, they don't really care all that much.
Second) Pokedex entries are where the developers get to make jokes and have fun, sometimes with absurd numbers. I personally don't take the dex entries as canon because of that.
Third) Who's to say they haven't?

[Mystical Jackal]

I suppose that Pokemons don't have the feeling to domain things like humans have. That's why they haven't become a very advanced level civilization.

First of all... use this thread to discuss just one or two Pokemon. http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthr...cussion-thread!

Secondly, Pokemon are stronger when they are with humans. Their bond probably gives them strength. Show me one wild Pokemon who is EV Trained.

That thread is for only one pokemon. Above than one (two or more), it can create a thread.

[Blany]

First) Game Freak doesn't care too much for a perfection of logic. If such a flaw exists in the logic of the continuity of the Pokemon world, they don't really care all that much.
Second) Pokedex entries are where the developers get to make jokes and have fun, sometimes with absurd numbers. I personally don't take the dex entries as canon because of that.
Third) Who's to say they haven't?

But all this would not make sense if you were a character in the Pokemon Universe.

I suppose that Pokemons don't have the feeling to domain things like humans have. That's why they haven't become a very advanced level civilization.

However, all the Pokemon of any particular species, or Pokemon in general cannot have the same personalities. Along with that, if a Pokemon wants to dominate anything, they would try to make quite a few allies before trying, considering that they might be so intelligent.