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    Post FMA (Fullmetal Alchemist) ~ 2003 & 2009

    This is a thread to discuss anything FMA. So, who thought Envy was a girl at first? I know I did?
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    I thought it was obvious from the start that Envy was a guy.

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    Exactly. After I relized the obvious though, it was... Errr... Obvious that he was a guy. Also, what episode does Olivier armstong come in in the 2009 animé? Cause I'm around ep 20
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    Who am I waiting for, in this mase of emotions with no way out insight?
    I want to purge myself more simply, as if writing in a blank notebook!
    What is it i want to excape from?"
    "The Doctor: Oh, big, big mistake. Really huge. Didn't anyone ever tell you? There's one thing you never put in a trap. If you're smart, if you value your continued existence, if you have any plans about seeing tomorrow, there is one thing you never, ever put in a trap... Me."
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Keyblade Alchemist View Post
    Exactly. After I relized the obvious though, it was... Errr... Obvious that he was a guy. Also, what episode does Olivier armstong come in in the 2009 animé? Cause I'm around ep 20
    I always though it was guy... Never imagined him to be a girl... And Olivier Armstrong comes around episode 33 or 34. And I think it is chapter 64 in the manga's.

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    Oh, good, I'm close.
    "Sin's dont end with tears, you have to carry the pain forever!
    Who am I waiting for, in this mase of emotions with no way out insight?
    I want to purge myself more simply, as if writing in a blank notebook!
    What is it i want to excape from?"
    "The Doctor: Oh, big, big mistake. Really huge. Didn't anyone ever tell you? There's one thing you never put in a trap. If you're smart, if you value your continued existence, if you have any plans about seeing tomorrow, there is one thing you never, ever put in a trap... Me."
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    Yeah i thought envy was a girl to.. lol

    But i wanna make it clear that i think the original series of FMA was magnitudes better than "brotherhood".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestial Moth View Post
    Yeah i thought envy was a girl to.. lol

    But i wanna make it clear that i think the original series of FMA was magnitudes better than "brotherhood".
    Yes, it is. Some people say that BH is better than 2003, because it is modeled after the manga, but here's what I think:
    Manga > 2003 > 2009, but then again, that's only so far.
    "Sin's dont end with tears, you have to carry the pain forever!
    Who am I waiting for, in this mase of emotions with no way out insight?
    I want to purge myself more simply, as if writing in a blank notebook!
    What is it i want to excape from?"
    "The Doctor: Oh, big, big mistake. Really huge. Didn't anyone ever tell you? There's one thing you never put in a trap. If you're smart, if you value your continued existence, if you have any plans about seeing tomorrow, there is one thing you never, ever put in a trap... Me."
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    I like Brotherhood way more. The original had a stronger beginning but the newer one had a much stronger ending I think.

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    I like Brotherhood better than the original, though as much as I agree it was a great series I can't help but feel it is overrated.

    Also, Mustang should get a spin-off where he just ****s **** up like he did to Lust and Envy.
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    No, Maes Hughes needs a spin-off where he just talks about his daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jb View Post
    No, Maes Hughes needs a spin-off where he just talks about his daughter.
    This would be great too.
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    Alex Louis Armstrong needs a slice of life anime spin-off about manly men doing manly things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolteon91 View Post
    This would be great too.
    Yes. This is the only true awesomeness in the world.
    "Sin's dont end with tears, you have to carry the pain forever!
    Who am I waiting for, in this mase of emotions with no way out insight?
    I want to purge myself more simply, as if writing in a blank notebook!
    What is it i want to excape from?"
    "The Doctor: Oh, big, big mistake. Really huge. Didn't anyone ever tell you? There's one thing you never put in a trap. If you're smart, if you value your continued existence, if you have any plans about seeing tomorrow, there is one thing you never, ever put in a trap... Me."
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    I view the two series as roughly equal; I liked that the original series had a more relaxed pace and gave some lesser characters like Rose and Sheska more focus, while Brotherhood had great characters the original series did not (Ling/2nd Greed, the Brotherhood incarnation of Pride, Olivier Armstrong and the Briggs soldiers) and a better final battle, even if the zombie soldiers were incredibly stupid and Father is a relatively generic shonen villain.

    What I do rank Brotherhood as far superior on, though, is surprisingly enough the movie. For all its faults - the weird artwork, long, dragging middle, hilarious ignoring of Roy, unbelievable blood, and relying entirely on new characters - I walked away from The Sacred Star of Milos seeing it as a relatively standard action film that did the conventions it stuck to well. When I watched Conquerer of Shamballa, once it was over I thought these three things in order: "What the **** did I just watch?", "Dietlinde Eckhart is the stupidest villain I've ever seen," "Lost Heaven is an amazing ending theme." I was floored by just how ridiculous the movie was.

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    In Brotherhood you can actually see the characters mature. There are so many intricacies that makes Brotherhood better than the 2003 Anime that I can't even begin to list them all. And I really don't get how someone could like 2003's ending more than Brotherhood's. Brotherhood's ending was extremely satisfying, and the closing message about overcoming pain summed up the series perfectly. And the part where     Spoiler:- yeah:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jb View Post
    No, Maes Hughes needs a spin-off where he just talks about his daughter.
    Lol I agree, with 15 minute intervals of exaggerated hand gestures

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    Well I liked the ending of Brotherhood better, but I liked how the first one had a fast forward beginning and gave more attention to minor characters. To not make this post too long (and cauz I don't feel like writing it) I will just go strait to the conclusion. Both series had their up and their downs. There was not one of the series, that was better that the other one in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charizard Champion#06 View Post
    Alex Louis Armstrong needs a slice of life anime spin-off about manly men doing manly things.
    No, he needs to be in a crossover with Pokemon where he uses himself as one. That was my friend's idea by the way.

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    Lol I agree, with 15 minute intervals of exaggerated hand gestures
    Japanese cartoons in general need more hand gestures!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necro101 View Post
    Well I liked the ending of Brotherhood better, but I liked how the first one had a fast forward beginning and gave more attention to minor characters. To not make this post too long (and cauz I don't feel like writing it) I will just go strait to the conclusion. Both series had their up and their downs. There was not one of the series, that was better that the other one in my opinion.

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    Brotherhood has less downs and more ups. I agree with pretty much everything ForeverFlame said above.

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    Personally, I think that FMA is awful but Brotherhood is one of the best anime series' ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneak View Post
    Personally, I think that FMA is awful but Brotherhood is one of the best anime series' ever.
    Ive never watched FMA regular but i fell in love with brotherhood i read the wiki of the original and it sounded bad compared to brotherhood

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingzx View Post
    i read the wiki of the original and it sounded bad compared to brotherhood
    Oh, the Wiki told you that. Well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wingzx View Post
    Ive never watched FMA regular but i fell in love with brotherhood i read the wiki of the original and it sounded bad compared to brotherhood
    I don't even know where to start with this.
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    I'd start by pointing out to the user in question (the one who read the Wiki) that the original anime outpaced the manga to the point where the story split off into original material, which doesn't make it bad, just different and not a straight adaptation like Brotherhood would later be.

    That's just me though.


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