Team Sky

**trident20** · 22nd November 2012, 2:49 PM

Happy thanksgiving peoples!!!

**FlamingTouymato** · 22nd November 2012, 3:00 PM

Username/What you want us to call you (Keep it reasonable): Touya
What Division you are applying for; Subway Raiders
Recommended by?: N/A
Reasons for Joining: I was in Team Sky before.
Games played?: Pokemon Black, PokePark 2
PO/Showdown access (Yes/No): Pokemon Online, yes. Showdown....no.
If yes what is your username: TouyaBlack
Wifi access (Yes/No): No
Jobs interested in?: N/A

**trident20** · 22nd November 2012, 3:09 PM

super accepted!

**Archstaraptor** · 22nd November 2012, 4:25 PM

Originally Posted by thedarklord2155

but, stall does suck nowadays. it was a hard playstyle to begin with, but now it just can't handle the powerhouses, like keldeo, genesect, and garchomp. the prevalence of set-ups on hyper offense teams also really kills it. no pokemon is bulky enough to withstand 6 pokemon, most at +2, and their respective STAB or s/e move. blissey can't even wall specially oriented teams anymore, or it'll get a psyshock/secret sword to the throat. too many pokemon can break down the ferrocent core, so thats off the wall. skarmory is skarmory, who doesnt have much offensive potential anyway. in fact, the only good defensive backbone core that works extremely well imo, is amoongbrotran. it stops pretty much every common threat, and you cant even wear it down with toxic or spikes due to regenerator. heatran blocks genesect completely, bar rare hp ground sets, amoongus walls keldeo, thunderus-t(heatran as well). slowbro has garchomp. heatran again has tornadus-t. landorus rp sheer force sets...those are like, the only problem. but probably amoongus, or balloon heatran, if it has balloon. my point is, its just so hard to find decent stall teams nowadays, as they just become overpowered. i agree, if you play them right, they work. but how often are they played right?

The only stall members I have ever trained are Muk and Cradily,the latter also being effective offensively too with storm drain boosts and ancient power to provide coverage and stat boosts across the board.
But...as you say,if they can set up on you,then you're done for.
Critical hits or toxic poison=death.Although it doesn't mind other status at all,and I celebrate when someone gives Cradily a thunder wave.
But I have managed to take out dragon/flying types nice and easily with it-even after a Salamence uses a dragon dance outrage,it can take two attacks without a boost.

Stalls Venusaur to death quite nicely too; it can counter multiple weather teams, but works much better than Gastrodon in the sun.

Incidentally,does anybody know if magic coat bounces back taunt?I have yet another idea in the making...

EDIT: It does-and it blocks so many other things too: it also reflects encore,leech seed(which will rarely be useful),roar and tickle.
...so the foe ends up tickling itself then > <

**Ghosts of the Forums** · 22nd November 2012, 5:29 PM

well well well. touya. how'd your clan work out?

**Cyrius** · 22nd November 2012, 10:16 PM

Ah good, we have most of the old gang back!

Touya has a clan? O.o

So do you guys think i should put both of my shops in the clan or in the art and trade shop threads?

**~~NoteLobo~~** · 23rd November 2012, 1:38 AM

Originally Posted by trident20

i love it when people set up.......when i have my ditto

I would personally and on the behalf of all the players ever say this. *Clears Throat* **** DITO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God I hate this thing so much. I really think it should be moved to Ubers just because of its ability to turn a team that shouldn't ever ever ever be able to beat you into something that is impossible to stop. It is definitely a breaking in all tiers because of its shear ability to turn an entire battle on its head in one turn with nothing to counter it. Other then revenge killing you can't just kill it. It steals all of your stat boosts and then proceeds to rape your whole team off of your work. Its just plain evil.

I know it really isn't broken enough to be moved to Ubers or even locked in OU. I just wish it was unspokenly banned, like quick claw. You can use it, but everyone hates you for it kind of thing.

**~~Vatii~~** · 23rd November 2012, 1:44 AM

Originally Posted by thedarklord2155

but, stall does suck nowadays. it was a hard playstyle to begin with, but now it just can't handle the powerhouses, like keldeo, genesect, and garchomp. the prevalence of set-ups on hyper offense teams also really kills it. no pokemon is bulky enough to withstand 6 pokemon, most at +2, and their respective STAB or s/e move. blissey can't even wall specially oriented teams anymore, or it'll get a psyshock/secret sword to the throat. too many pokemon can break down the ferrocent core, so thats off the wall. skarmory is skarmory, who doesnt have much offensive potential anyway. in fact, the only good defensive backbone core that works extremely well imo, is amoongbrotran. it stops pretty much every common threat, and you cant even wear it down with toxic or spikes due to regenerator. heatran blocks genesect completely, bar rare hp ground sets, amoongus walls keldeo, thunderus-t(heatran as well). slowbro has garchomp. heatran again has tornadus-t. landorus rp sheer force sets...those are like, the only problem. but probably amoongus, or balloon heatran, if it has balloon. my point is, its just so hard to find decent stall teams nowadays, as they just become overpowered. i agree, if you play them right, they work. but how often are they played right?

Stall is even starting to stop working in Ubers. I am pretty sure that the only tier where it still works in UU sometimes.

**That Crazy Russian™** · 23rd November 2012, 1:45 AM

i believe IIRC substitute blocks imposter's effect, so thats a boon, especially since most set-up sweepers use substitute. otherwise, just good prediction and teambuilding. the first rule of teambuilding is to make sure you cant be raped by variants of your own team.

**Ghosts of the Forums** · 23rd November 2012, 1:59 AM

happy thanksgiving to all my u.s. homies.

**joepotatoe** · 23rd November 2012, 3:28 AM

SEEMS LIKE i WAS AROUND SO LITTLE IN THE FIRST PLACE NOBODY EVEN NOTICED i LEFT XD

I might be coming back since it seems to be back as good ol' team sky.
and CG ain't much fun, but they have a PO channel, which you should try to make, it reall yhelps giving a sense of cocmmunity, plus, it's the only place I'm ever active lol

**QuoteMaster** · 23rd November 2012, 4:12 AM

Originally Posted by joepotatoe

SEEMS LIKE i WAS AROUND SO LITTLE IN THE FIRST PLACE NOBODY EVEN NOTICED i LEFT XD

I might be coming back since it seems to be back as good ol' team sky.
and CG ain't much fun, but they have a PO channel, which you should try to make, it reall yhelps giving a sense of cocmmunity, plus, it's the only place I'm ever active lol

We do have a PO channel, it's just that it's invisible when no one's in it.

**FlamingTouymato** · 23rd November 2012, 4:16 AM

Originally Posted by QuoteMaster

We do have a PO channel, it's just that it's invisible when no one's in it.

I always go to that channel for battling.

**~~NoteLobo~~** · 23rd November 2012, 12:48 PM

I like that channel because I can check my own rating without having to hunt my name down on that huge list =)

@Darklord: I do like that Sub blocks imposter but its still frustrating in and of itself. I guess its just a personal preference.

**trident20** · 23rd November 2012, 3:37 PM

i like how everyone was talking about dragontie because i put him as the pokemon of the week. should i keep doin that?

**Archstaraptor** · 23rd November 2012, 4:16 PM

Originally Posted by trident20

i like how everyone was talking about dragontie because i put him as the pokemon of the week. should i keep doin that?

Go for it,it gives us something to talk about

Problem with POTW is the fact that it's always the same people giving the overviews...some are much more comprehensive than others.

And the doubles and triples options section is nowhere near useful enough at the moment,in my opinion.

**Cyrius** · 23rd November 2012, 5:34 PM

Yeah i like that idea! well ive decided to to post the art and trade shops on here, so anyone who works on either one, let me know what is your job or what art you are willing to make. Vm or on here is fine

**Ghosts of the Forums** · 23rd November 2012, 6:56 PM

hey guys. on a hail team, is offensive or defensive heatran better? i'm guessing defensive, just trying to find something competitive to say.

EDIT: first battle with my new team. how's it look?

Spoiler:- battle:

SECOND EDIT: huh. it wouldn't actually wrap it in spoiler tags until i indicated what to call it. never had that happen before. while i'm at it, battle number two.

Spoiler:- second battle:

**Archstaraptor** · 23rd November 2012, 7:47 PM

^Looking great

Tell you what though,if you had magma storm up against that politoed,you'd have been flying.
Sure,fire blast is slightly more accurate, but that trapping effect can be invaluable for any Heatran counters they might have-so you could finish them easily.

How about trying magma storm with a grip claw?Residual damage should stack up quite nicely in hail and protect.

Or a binding band could work -that would mean they could lose 18.75% of their health every turn whilst in battle.So almost a fifth...and they can do nothing but weather it.

**Dbibit** · 23rd November 2012, 9:16 PM

Username/What you want us to call you (Keep it reasonable): Dbibit or Dbit
What Division you are applying for; The Subway Raiders
Recommended by?: Chingchar
Reasons for Joining: Because Chingchar said it was cool and that I should join.
Games played?: All pokemon games
PO/Showdown access (Yes/No): PO yes PS no
If yes what is your username: PO
Wifi access (Yes/No): No
Jobs interested in?: I'll tell you when I can tutor in NU

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