BWS2-23: Ash Vs Kotetsu! Secret Weapon Hydreigon!! [FIRST POST]

[Caseydia]

How is his team better then Virgil's when we haven't even seen Virgil's team full potential(Most of them only used one or two moves, they obviously have more moves, and we haven't seen any in an official battle yet). Plus, Kotetsu has an out of control Hydreigon apparently, I wouldn't want Ash to lose someone who isn't controlling their Pokemon.

Yeah but Kotetsu's gotten this far for a reason. Besides, look at how far Dragonite got in the Junior cup. So don't give me that!

[the1stpkmnfan]

Well at least we know how far Ash will succeed in the league; this battle with Kotetsu sounds interesting already. Especially with a possible evolution and a Hydreigon. I bet Iris will idolize it as if it were her own.

I assume no Ash VS Bianca? That's too bad; but then again Ash didn't battle Barry in the last league. (Pointing this out since Barry/Bianca both have similarities)

[gliscor&yanmega]

Yeah but Kotetsu's gotten this far for a reason. Besides, look at how far Dragonite got in the Junior cup. So don't give me that!

Virgil's going to be going far for a reason too, unless you think he's losing before this battle...

And Ash defeated it so...

[ludiloco]

Virgil's going to be going far for a reason too, unless you think he's losing before this battle...

We don't have proof of that, even though everyone here thinks that's obvious.

Come on writers, there's no Gen VI yet.

Y U NO let Ash win this fon once?

[gliscor&yanmega]

We don't have proof of that, even though everyone here thinks that's obvious.

Come on writers, there's no Gen VI yet.

Y U NO let Ash win this fon once?

There's no episode title mentioning Ash vs Virgil, and I seriously doubt Virgil is going to lose to a "COTD", so everything points to Virgil making it to Top 4 at least, it's the most likely outcome.

[pokemonsquared]

My guess

Ash vs Kotetsu

Pignite
Pikachu
Krookodile
Boldore->Gigalith
Snivy
UNfezant

Kotesu

Riolu-Lucario
Arcanine
Hydreigon
Ferrothorn
Samurott
Metagross

[Eneci]

This is not the Virgil thread! I love the eeveeloutions! and Ash reaching the Top 4 with an average team is nothing better. I would love for Ash to reach the Top 4,2 or even win this. for me his adventure is getting bland and we need fresh blood. either way it will be interesting to see how it finishes.

Lucario vs Dewott or Servine in the final stage of this battle would be my Best Wishes!

[dman_dustin]

Since Riolu and Lucario are unmarketable and forgettable Pokémon, I hope it's evolution is swept under the rug, just have it beat the Pokémon it's having trouble with (Scraggy/Scrafty), LOL) evolve it, and beat the Pokémon, and then have some other Pokémon beat Lucario's rear end, and have Kotetsu send out Hydreigon, sounds good to me.

[Shirou456]

Yeah but Kotetsu's gotten this far for a reason. Besides, look at how far Dragonite got in the Junior cup. So don't give me that!

Yeah, but we don't know anything about this Hydreigon.
A. Dragonite wasn't listening, but he is a great example of the Blood Knight trope; looks for fights and loves to win, I don't think that is the best example because unlike alot of examples of Pokemon not listening to their trainer, we know that Dragonite has this great competative spirit (Yeah okay the others like the win too but:
1. Charizard was a lazy jerk who only battled when interested. Unlike Dragonite, he would rather sit and nap than battle.
2. Mamoswine didn't feel he needed to prove himself to Dawn and would often just turn away without any incentive
3. Excadrill was actually terrified to lose infront of his trainer again

B. Hydreigon's by nature are usually killing machines lol. There is a BIG difference between the other 4 and a Hydreigon that doesn't listen. It's like comparing a cat to a rapid dog. I mean remember what happen to the Hydreigon Iris has to calm down a couple episodes back? That's a more benign specimen of Hydreigon, this is probably going to be a more traditional version.

[Hero of Ideals]

Out of control Dragon? Does Krookodile need to Dragon Claw a dragon again?

[dman_dustin]

Yeah, but we don't know anything about this Hydreigon.
A. Dragonite wasn't listening, but he is a great example of the Blood Knight trope; looks for fights and loves to win, I don't think that is the best example because unlike alot of examples of Pokemon not listening to their trainer, we know that Dragonite has this great competative spirit (Yeah okay the others like the win too but:
1. Charizard was a lazy jerk who only battled when interested. Unlike Dragonite, he would rather sit and nap than battle.
2. Mamoswine didn't feel he needed to prove himself to Dawn and would often just turn away without any incentive
3. Excadrill was actually terrified to lose infront of his trainer again

B. Hydreigon's by nature are usually killing machines lol. There is a BIG difference between the other 4 and a Hydreigon that doesn't listen. It's like comparing a cat to a rapid dog. I mean remember what happen to the Hydreigon Iris has to calm down a couple episodes back? That's a more benign specimen of Hydreigon, this is probably going to be a more traditional version.

Keep in mind, that not all Pokémon of the species portrayed matches their species.

I'm sure there are Hydreigon out there that don't go on a path of destruction.

And I'm sure there are Primeape out there that don't go bananas just because you look into their eyes.

Sure I'll agree those could rare instances, but their nature doesn't have to be the same old thing.

[pokemonsquared]

They probably want to make Hydreigon into these terrifying monsters that mere mortals cannot hope to control so when ghetsis shows up with his OP and pefectly obedient one he looks even stronger.

that or kotetsu will gift wrap the thing and give it to Iris

[Locormus]

Ash will defeat Koet with Osha evolving and learning an ice type move so he can defeat Hydregion!

That's a nice one..

Well at least we know how far Ash will succeed in the league; this battle with Kotetsu sounds interesting already. Especially with a possible evolution and a Hydreigon. I bet Iris will idolize it as if it were her own.

I assume no Ash VS Bianca? That's too bad; but then again Ash didn't battle Barry in the last league. (Pointing this out since Barry/Bianca both have similarities)

No they don't.. :P
- Barry: Not a very strong trainer, most notably a Paul-fanboy.. Hence why he fought against Paul and not Ash.
- Bianca: General trainer that fails when it comes down to it..

Since Riolu and Lucario are unmarketable and forgettable Pokémon, I hope it's evolution is swept under the rug, just have it beat the Pokémon it's having trouble with (Scraggy/Scrafty), LOL) evolve it, and beat the Pokémon, and then have some other Pokémon beat Lucario's rear end, and have Kotetsu send out Hydreigon, sounds good to me.

Mèh..

I'd like to see:
- Scraggy vs. Riolu: Riolu
- Pikachu vs. Riolu: Evo
- Pikachu vs. Lucario: Lucario - Kotetsu gets cocky
- Oshawott vs. Lucario: Oshawott gets KO'd.
- Pignite vs. Lucario: Pignite - Kotetsu goes 'omg what now! Shoot,shoot,shoot!'
- Pignite vs. Hydreigon: Hydreigon - Ash goes oh snap..

Lets see what I want..
- Oshawott beating a Fire-type: Preferably Simisear to make up for it losing to almost every Fire-type in existancePansear
- Oshawott facing Samurott, but not to faint.
- Snivy beating Samurott for the kicks.
- Scraggy beating Ferrothorn with a double Focus Blast
- The above scenario
- Pikachu vs. Lucario including Electro Ball vs. Aura Sphere and Iron Tail vs. Bone Rush
- Oshawott vs. Lucario including Razor Shell vs. Bone Rush
- Pignite vs. Hydreigon including Hydreigon ramming through Fire Pledge KO'ing Pignite
- Snivy facing Hydreigon and failing to use Attract and getting frozen by Tri Attack
- Boldore evolving against Hydreigon and there being a huge Dragon/Dark-pulse vs. Flash Cannon explosion.

[Caseydia]

They probably want to make Hydreigon into these terrifying monsters that mere mortals cannot hope to control so when ghetsis shows up with his OP and pefectly obedient one he looks even stronger.

that or kotetsu will gift wrap the thing and give it to Iris

Why would he do that instead of Iris just going out and catching one on her own? Why does she need to gift it to her? And Besides, I used Hydreigon in the game all the time. I don't see why they portrait them as being difficult way more than Dragonite was.

[ShinyCharyZard]

Since Riolu and Lucario are unmarketable and forgettable Pokémon, I hope it's evolution is swept under the rug, just have it beat the Pokémon it's having trouble with (Scraggy/Scrafty), LOL) evolve it, and beat the Pokémon, and then have some other Pokémon beat Lucario's rear end, and have Kotetsu send out Hydreigon, sounds good to me.

Riolu and Lucario, unmarketable and forgettable Pokemon? Both the staff and the fanbase love these Pokemon, they could give one to the worst and most disliked character ever and it'd still get milked for all its worth..

I would love for Lucario and Scrafty to have a showdown. They're both weak to each other and it'd be so interesting to see which of the anti-fighting types would reign supreme. Dark or Steel?

[Graham Aker]

I wonder if Kotetsu pulls out Hydreigon as a desperation move, or is Hydreigon simply fought midway through the battle?

[Cresselia92]

Riolu and Lucario, unmarketable and forgettable Pokemon? Both the staff and the fanbase love these Pokemon, they could give one to the worst and most disliked character ever and it'd still get milked for all its worth..

I would love for Lucario and Scrafty to have a showdown. They're both weak to each other and it'd be so interesting to see which of the anti-fighting types would reign supreme. Dark or Steel?

I'd love that too. Maybe, to be fair to both battlers, both knock out each other. Aura Sphere vs Focus Blast anyone?

[pokemonsquared]

I wonder if Kotetsu pulls out Hydreigon as a desperation move, or is Hydreigon simply fought midway through the battle?

He's gonna be all overconfident and slap his headband on his head then proclaim he has a secret weapon. Ash is shocked while Riolu/lucario gets a horrified look on his face. Then Kotetsu throws out Hydreigon looking all confident and such, it doesnt obey and poor lucario is gonna facepalm so hard.

[HatersGonnaHate]

I wonder if Kotetsu pulls out Hydreigon as a desperation move, or is Hydreigon simply fought midway through the battle?

I don't know, it seems it'll be his last pokemon because otherwise he probably wouldn't use it since it's uncontrollable. The likely scenario is that it doesn't obey Kotestu, Ash beats it and then Iris gives Kotesu advice after the battle.

Lucario's evolution might happen in the middle so it'll still get a good showcasing before Hydreigon appears.

[00poke_maniac]

Are we sure it's uncontrollable, or is it just ripping apart teams? :/ Or it could even be confused after using Outrage.

Why would something be a secret weapon if it doesn't listen? Of course, it is Kotetsu. xD But I'm still fishy about it rampaging like Iris's Dragonite.