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Thread: BWS2-23: Ash Vs Kotetsu! Secret Weapon Hydreigon!! [FIRST POST]

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    There's already a thread on this, why is this still open lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by (P.O.K.E.M.O.N.) View Post
    Losing to a bunch of eeveelutions make's more sence then someone with an unevolved team winning the league.
    eh kotetsu will win dont worry his team is league worthy imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Aker View Post
    There's already a thread on this, why is this still open lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingzx View Post
    eh kotetsu will win dont worry his team is league worthy imo
    If he can't control Hydreigon then he really doesn't seem worthy to be the League Champion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinnoh Ash View Post
    If he can't control Hydreigon then he really doesn't seem worthy to be the League Champion.
    it doesnt say he cant control it does it? i thought it said it was thrashing around meaning it uses thrash

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingzx View Post
    eh kotetsu will win dont worry his team is league worthy imo
    ...It'd be a little embarrassing though if someone with a rampaging Pokemon one the league...D8 Pftt, we all know Youngster Joey will win the league ;D SCREW HYDREIGON, IT'S ALL ABOUT RATICATE! D8

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    Quote Originally Posted by SapphireIris View Post
    ...It'd be a little embarrassing though if someone with a rampaging Pokemon one the league...D8 Pftt, we all know Youngster Joey will win the league ;D SCREW HYDREIGON, IT'S ALL ABOUT RATICATE! D8
    Kotetsu is defs not winning plus screw raticate, his Rattata is in the top percentage of Rattata! xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingzx View Post
    it doesnt say he cant control it does it? i thought it said it was thrashing around meaning it uses thrash
    Adam Ant confirmed that Hydreigon is rampaging. It's Kotestu's secret weapon because he can't control it.
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    I think his Hydreigon will be like Paul's Drapion, but his final Pokemon will be Samurott(PLEASE) or Riolu/Lucario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Even if that's likely gonna be true... they introduced him, thus they need to utilize him
    Bianca? Lost to Kotetsu who likely loses to Ash? And in a sense, they're already using Virgil as a marketing tool, so whatever..

    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    I could see boldore evolving in a vein similar to Krokorok and putting an end to the rampage if that is true.If hydreigon truly is disobidient and this is top 16 then it gives off some serious Ash vs Ritchie vibes only this time Ash is on the winning team.
    I'd like that. Boldore doesn't have much over Hydreigon, but it would be a matchup that I'd believe considering Boldore's decent movepool, whereas Pignite has a limited movepool.

    As for the Ritchie-vibe, that's exactly what Kotetsu was made after.. An Ash-foil, made to reflect Ash's character in almost the same way with just a small twist. The disobedient dragon in the Top16 is just the iceing one the cake..

    Ritchie in the Top16:
    - Sparky: Best marketable pokemon from the first generation
    - Zippo: Starter pokemon, of which Ash had the fully evolved form.
    Kotetsu in the top16:
    - Riolu: A pokemon that's arguably one of the top2 best marketable from Sinnoh, the other being Piplup.
    - Samurott: Starter pokemon, of which Ash has the base stage.

    Ritchie's Butterfree is forgetable, but I wouldn't be surprised if Kotetsu has something similar: A pokemon that Ash at one point had, say a Lapras or something.. Kotetsu's Hydreigon is a throwback to Ash's Charizard being disobedient..

    Quote Originally Posted by (P.O.K.E.M.O.N.) View Post
    Losing to a bunch of eeveelutions make's more sence then someone with an unevolved team winning the league.
    Your statement is false.

    Evolved pokemon:
    1. Unfezant: Fully evolved.
    2. Pignite: Evolved once.
    3. Leavanny: Fully evolved.
    4. Palpitoad: Stage 1 and might fully evolve against Stephan.
    5. Boldore: Evolved once, and might evolve again judging by the calender.
    6. Krookodile: Fully evolved.

    Unevolved pokemon:
    1. Pikachu: Debatable, but for the sake of argument, lets not.
    2. Oshawott
    3. Snivy
    4. Scraggy

    Ash has a team of evolved pokemon, but only 2/3rd of a team that's unevolved, therefore, your statement is false.

    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    Adam Ant confirmed that Hydreigon is rampaging. It's Kotestu's secret weapon because he can't control it.
    This is something that makes me incline that he would be down to his last pokemon if he would make such a decision.. Kinda like how Ash was semi-forced to use Charizard back in Kanto.. Although he wasn't because he still also had Bulbasaur which he decided not to use for some reason..

    Here's to hoping that Ash goes through a good chunk of his team fast and then makes Kotetsu sweat and use Hydreigon and has to use three to take it down: Pikachu, Pignite, Boldore/Gigalith

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    Vs. League rival: Pikachu, Unfezant, Snivy, Scraggy, Gigalith, Krookodile?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locormus View Post
    This is something that makes me incline that he would be down to his last pokemon if he would make such a decision..
    Actually, Id say that using an uncontrollable Pokemon doesnt have to be a desperate move. Nothing wrong with instantaneous impact rather than waiting till you have no other option.




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    The prospect of Riolu evolving makes me think Satoshi may lose to Kotetsu, hope not, I don't dislike Kotetsu but I don't want Satoshi to lose in this round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    The prospect of Riolu evolving makes me think Satoshi may lose to Kotetsu, hope not, I don't dislike Kotetsu but I don't want Satoshi to lose in this round.
    Of course he isn't going to lose, if he does, who's going to battle Virgil?

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    Looks like a mod decided for each episode to get a thread, guess this wont be closed then.

    So what we know, assuming nothing is wrong:
    Ash vs Kotetsu is round 4(Not counting Preliminary as a numbered round), and is the start of full battles.

    Ash is using Pignite and most likely Pikachu, vs Hydreigon and Rilou who is probably going to evolve. Still four Pokemon for each to be known. Likely enough Kotetsu will use the Pokemon we already know he has so Samurott and Ferrothorn, I'm hoping he used Gigalith and Arcanine as well. As for Ash, depending on what happens before the battle I'd like to see Boldore, Krookodile, Scraggy, and Unfezant.

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    Why is Riolu "probably going to evolve" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing View Post
    Why is Riolu "probably going to evolve" ?
    Someone translated a summary or something and said it was hinting towards Rilou evolving.

    EDIT:
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    Kotetsu vs Ash is 6 on 6, it's hinting toward Riolu's evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing View Post
    Why is Riolu "probably going to evolve" ?
    because of new info

    Quote Originally Posted by G50 View Post
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    Kotetsu vs Ash is 6 on 6, it's hinting toward Riolu's evolution.

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    No one really knows for sure if he will lose here or not, so why not wait for more info? I hate when people do that and then it ends up being something else. It would make more sense for Ash to lose here because Kotetsu's team is better than Virgil's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Caseydia View Post
    No one really knows for sure if he will lose here or not, so why not wait for more info? I hate when people do that and then it ends up being something else. It would make more sense for Ash to lose here because Kotetsu's team is better than Virgil's.
    How is his team better then Virgil's when we haven't even seen Virgil's team full potential(Most of them only used one or two moves, they obviously have more moves, and we haven't seen any in an official battle yet). Plus, Kotetsu has an out of control Hydreigon apparently, I wouldn't want Ash to lose someone who isn't controlling their Pokemon.
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    Ash will defeat Koet with Osha evolving and learning an ice type move so he can defeat Hydregion!
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