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Thread: BWS2-23: Ash Vs Kotetsu! Secret Weapon Hydreigon!! [FIRST POST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyCharyZard View Post
    Eh, I kinda think that Ferrothorn will actually be one of the easy wins, along with Kotetsu's possible Fire type. Then Riolu, Hydreigon, Samurott and "Gigalith" will make things difficult. Especially Hydreigon and Riolu.
    I can see the Gigalith being Ash's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KibaLG8 View Post
    I can see the Gigalith being Ash's.
    of course it could be Ashs. But people don't want to get there hopes up only to be disapointed again so we assume it belongs to someone else.

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    I just hope that Gigalith belongs to some COTD.



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    Well, let's analyze Kotetsu's team by using a game logic:

    Offensive:

    Samurott: balanced offensive Pokemon, it can use its blades as a form of defense

    Hydreigon: strong Dragon-type Pokemon with a unique typing, it may be rather fast, can dodge moves by flying and has a quite versatile movepool

    Defensive:

    Ferrothorn: defensive Pokemon, its spikes may be used to deter physical attacks, its Steel-typing grants it a good amount of resistances

    Speedy:

    Riolu (Lucario?): fast and strong Pokemon, as a Lucario it has a good amount of resistences due to its Steel-typing, can learn Quick Attack/Extremespeed as priority attacks

    I can see Kot having another defensive Pokemon and a very fast one to have a balanced team. In that way, he can employ different strategies to attack his enemies. Gigalith could very well be his second tank (thanks to Sturdy), but I have no idea of what could be his eventual fast attacker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyCharyZard View Post
    I imagine the smaller Pokemon getting their biggest battles against Virgil.
    Snivy vs. Vaporeon
    Oshawott vs. Flareon
    Pignite vs. Leafeon
    Scraggy vs. Espeon
    Unfezant vs. Jolteon
    Pikachu vs. Umbreon

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyCharyZard View Post
    Still those four as far as I know.. Although I'm still just waiting for a Gigalith to pop up and annoy everyone, I can just feel it..
    Oh and how it will annoy me to no end.. grrr..

    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyCharyZard View Post
    May I ask what makes you say this? I personally see his last two being equally powerful as Ferrothorn.
    Because we're all assuming Ferrothorn to put up less of a fight then Samurott, Hydreigon and Riolu/cario... -.- Heck, I even assume that even Samurott will only take down one pokemon before falling.. Tough luck has happened to starters before in the leagues: Sceptile vs. Glalie, Torterra, and uhm Venusaur, Feraligatr and Typhlosion never being in a league...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cresselia92 View Post
    Well, let's analyze Kotetsu's team by using a game logic:

    Offensive:

    Samurott: balanced offensive Pokemon, it can use its blades as a form of defense

    Hydreigon: strong Dragon-type Pokemon with a unique typing, it may be rather fast, can dodge moves by flying and has a quite versatile movepool

    Defensive:

    Ferrothorn: defensive Pokemon, its spikes may be used to deter physical attacks, its Steel-typing grants it a good amount of resistances

    Speedy:

    Riolu (Lucario?): fast and strong Pokemon, as a Lucario it has a good amount of resistences due to its Steel-typing, can learn Quick Attack/Extremespeed as priority attacks

    I can see Kot having another defensive Pokemon and a very fast one to have a balanced team. In that way, he can employ different strategies to attack his enemies. Gigalith could very well be his second tank (thanks to Sturdy), but I have no idea of what could be his eventual fast attacker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locormus View Post

    Snivy vs. Vaporeon
    Oshawott vs. Flareon
    Pignite vs. Leafeon
    Scraggy vs. Espeon
    Unfezant vs. Jolteon
    Pikachu vs. Umbreon
    If this happens I will unleash my rage.

    I'm losing my hopes about the Satoshi vs Virgil battle.

    At least I hope his battle against Kotetsu to be the last decent battle I'm going to watch in Pokemon anime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludiloco View Post
    If this happens I will unleash my rage.

    I'm losing my hopes about the Satoshi vs Virgil battle.

    At least I hope his battle against Kotetsu to be the last decent battle I'm going to watch in Pokemon anime.
    What's wrong with that format, besides we finally get our long awaited Pikachu vs Umbreon battle since they didn't battle one another in the Silver Conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locormus View Post
    Snivy vs. Vaporeon
    Oshawott vs. Flareon
    Pignite vs. Leafeon
    Scraggy vs. Espeon
    Unfezant vs. Jolteon
    Pikachu vs. Umbreon
    I'm confused... why would Unfezant face Jolteon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    I'm confused... why would Unfezant face Jolteon?
    Maybe because Ash wants to employ the "Thunder Armor" technique?

    You know how the BW anime had been working. They put a Pokemon against its weakness to create "tension", so I wouldn't be surprised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cresselia92 View Post
    Maybe because Ash wants to employ the "Thunder Armor" technique?

    You know how the BW anime had been working. They put a Pokemon against its weakness to create "tension".
    Yeah every other type matches perfectly in Ash's favor...
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    Yep, just like Oshawott vs Pansage, Sewaddle vs Whirlipede, and Leavanny vs Koffing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hero of Ideals View Post
    What's wrong with that format, besides we finally get our long awaited Pikachu vs Umbreon battle since they didn't battle one another in the Silver Conference.
    It's Satoshi's shrimps against the eeveelutions format what annoys me.

    It'll be even worse if Vigil ends Satoshi with Eevee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    I'm confused... why would Unfezant face Jolteon?
    Maybe Jolteon is the one that faces Unfezant, aka Unfezant beats something Virgil counters with Jolteon, Unfezant can even win, we have had pokemon at disadvatange winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YokoKurama View Post
    Yep, just like Oshawott vs Pansage, Sewaddle vs Whirlipede, and Leavanny vs Koffing.
    Yes, because the League works exactly like a gym battle *sarcasm*

    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    Maybe Jolteon is the one that faces Unfezant, aka Unfezant beats something Virgil counters with Jolteon.
    Except Locormus clearly set it up like this

    Snivy vs. Vaporeon
    Oshawott vs. Flareon
    Pignite vs. Leafeon
    Scraggy vs. Espeon
    Unfezant vs. Jolteon
    Pikachu vs. Umbreon
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    I'm glad you know the difference!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YokoKurama View Post
    I'm glad you know the difference!
    I'm a pretty serious poster here most of the time...

    Just because you can win with type disadvantage in the gyms, doesn't mean you'll get that lucky in the league. Yes it's happened, but most of the time Ash is on the losing end when he's at the disadvantage.
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    My post wasn't about winning. I was adding on to what Cresselia said. About creating tension.

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    Hydreigon should make this battle pretty interesting.. I wonder who's going to take it out. As for Ash vs Virgil.. to be honest I'm not looking forward to that at all I hate when rivals come out of no where and defeat Ash -__-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    I'm confused... why would Unfezant face Jolteon?
    Because the poor girl is probably going to be fodder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shneak View Post
    Because the poor girl is probably going to be fodder.
    I don't want her to be death fodder.

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    I wouldn't be shocked if Kotetsu's Riolu wasn't going to evolve and he just had a Lucario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locormus View Post
    Snivy vs. Vaporeon
    Oshawott vs. Flareon
    Pignite vs. Leafeon
    Scraggy vs. Espeon
    Unfezant vs. Jolteon
    Pikachu vs. Umbreon
    This is how I would have things go:

    If Ash were to win:
    Scraggy vs Umbreon (Scraggy and switch)
    Oshawott vs Espeon (Oshawott)
    Oshawott vs Jolteon (Jolteon)
    Palpitoad vs Jolteon (Palpitoad)
    Palpitoad vs Leafeon (Palpi learns Sludge Wave, Draw)
    Snivy vs Vaporeon (Snivy)
    Snivy vs Flareon (Flareon)
    Pignite vs Flareon (Flash Fire Activates, Draw)*
    Pikachu vs Umbreon (Umbreon)
    Scraggy vs Umbreon (Scraggy)

    *Pignite has Take Down over Tackle, and Arm Thrust/Brick Break over Flamethrower

    If Ash were to lose:

    Scraggy vs Vaporeon (Scraggy)
    Scraggy vs Flareon (Scraggy is burned; Flareon)
    Pignite vs Flareon (Flash Fire Activates; Draw)
    Oshawott vs Espeon (Oshawott)
    Oshawott vs Jolteon (Jolteon)
    Palpitoad vs Jolteon (Palpitoad)
    Palpitoad vs Leafeon (Palpitoad learns sludge wave; barely loses)
    Snivy vs Leafeon (Snivy)
    Snivy vs Umbreon (Umbreon)
    Pikachu vs Umbreon (Umbreon)

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    I don't understand all this talk with the small Pokemon being used in the Virgil battle. It's kind of funny imagining all the opponents who lost watching these battles, and then watching all the unevolved pokemon duke it out with the eeveelutions. I think at least Scraggy/Snivy/Oshawott will be split up. I think one of the three will be used in the Kotetsu battle, so that a powerhouse can take one of their places.

    When I think about it though, Snivy is portrayed to be strong. I can see Scraggy battling in the Kotetsu battle. Oshawott, I guess the Virgil battle..

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    palpitoad evolving here vs hydregion will be nice and beating hydregion as seismitoad by activating his ability poison jab..
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