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Thread: BWS2-23: Ash Vs Kotetsu! Secret Weapon Hydreigon!! [FIRST POST]

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    From the voice cast, its pretty sure Ash is using pikachu, pignite, snivy, oshawott, unfezant, boldore.

    Ash vs. Kotetsu should go like this:-

    Episode:- December 20
    Ferrothorn vs. Oshawott (W/Oshawott)
    Samurott vs. Oshawott (Oshawott gets ****ed)
    Samurott vs. Pikachu (W/Pikachu)
    Swanna vs. Pikachu (W/Pikachu and recalled)
    Hydreigon vs. Boldore (W/Hydreigon after a chaotic match)
    Hydreigon vs. Pignite (MATCH CONTINUES...)

    Next episode:- January 3
    Hydreigon vs. Pignite (TIE! Both pokemon are out!)
    *Unknown* vs. Unfezant (Unfezant recalled)
    *Unknown* vs. Snivy (W/Snivy and recalled)
    Riolu vs. Unfezant (W/Riolu)
    Riolu vs. Snivy (Riolu evolves)

    Next episode:- (January 10)
    Lucario vs Snivy (W/Lucario)
    Lucario vs. Pikachu (W/Pikachu)
    Ash wins and then his top 4 match against either virgil or imotaro or dino is shown where he loses and thus its over!
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    I'm surprised that nobody has brought up that Lucario is in the title before Pikachu, making it look like Kotetsu is the main character of this battle. Usually Ash's Pokemon are always listed first in the titles. Its more of a sign Ash will lose. At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if Kotetsu does beat Virgil too and wind up winning the entire league.

    This is one thing I hate about every league is that they always have to make Ash lose no matter how hard he tries. I've heard somewhere that if Ash won a league, the series would end, though I personally believe that's nonsense myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterge77 View Post
    I'm surprised that nobody has brought up that Lucario is in the title before Pikachu, making it look like Kotetsu is the main character of this battle. Usually Ash's Pokemon are always listed first in the titles. Its more of a sign Ash will lose. At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if Kotetsu does beat Virgil too and wind up winning the entire league.

    This is one thing I hate about every league is that they always have to make Ash lose no matter how hard he tries. I've heard somewhere that if Ash won a league, the series would end, though I personally believe that's nonsense myself.
    You read my post:-

    From the voice cast, its pretty sure Ash is using pikachu, pignite, snivy, oshawott, unfezant, boldore.

    Ash vs. Kotetsu should go like this:-

    Episode:- December 20
    Ferrothorn vs. Oshawott (W/Oshawott)
    Samurott vs. Oshawott (Oshawott gets ****ed)
    Samurott vs. Pikachu (W/Pikachu)
    Swanna vs. Pikachu (W/Pikachu and recalled)
    Hydreigon vs. Boldore (W/Hydreigon after a chaotic match)
    Hydreigon vs. Pignite (MATCH CONTINUES...)

    Next episode:- January 3
    Hydreigon vs. Pignite (TIE! Both pokemon are out!)
    *Unknown* vs. Unfezant (Unfezant recalled)
    *Unknown* vs. Snivy (W/Snivy and recalled)
    Riolu vs. Unfezant (W/Riolu)
    Riolu vs. Snivy (Riolu evolves)

    Next episode:- (January 10)
    Lucario vs Snivy (W/Lucario)
    Lucario vs. Pikachu (W/Pikachu)
    Ash wins and then his top 4 match against either virgil or imotaro or dino is shown where he loses and thus its over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PokemonMasters View Post
    From the voice cast, its pretty sure Ash is using pikachu, pignite, snivy, oshawott, unfezant, boldore.

    Ash vs. Kotetsu should go like this:-

    Episode:- December 20
    Ferrothorn vs. Oshawott (W/Oshawott)
    Samurott vs. Oshawott (Oshawott gets ****ed)
    Samurott vs. Pikachu (W/Pikachu)
    Swanna vs. Pikachu (W/Pikachu and recalled)
    Hydreigon vs. Boldore (W/Hydreigon after a chaotic match)
    Hydreigon vs. Pignite (MATCH CONTINUES...)

    Next episode:- January 3
    Hydreigon vs. Pignite (TIE! Both pokemon are out!)
    *Unknown* vs. Unfezant (Unfezant recalled)
    *Unknown* vs. Snivy (W/Snivy and recalled)
    Riolu vs. Unfezant (W/Riolu)
    Riolu vs. Snivy (Riolu evolves)

    Next episode:- (January 10)
    Lucario vs Snivy (W/Lucario)
    Lucario vs. Pikachu (W/Pikachu)
    Ash wins and then his top 4 match against either virgil or imotaro or dino is shown where he loses and thus its over!
    slight problem with your idea. theres no ep on the 3rd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceDetective View Post
    slight problem with your idea. theres no ep on the 3rd.
    Yes der is! Dey r only taking a break on 27th no?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PokemonMasters View Post
    Yes der is! Dey r only taking a break on 27th no?!
    no 3rd as well. its a new years special instead
    this episode (23) airs on the 20th Dec
    next episode (24) airs on the 10th Jan
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceDetective View Post
    no 3rd as well. its a new years special instead
    this episode (23) airs on the 20th Dec
    next episode (24) airs on the 10th Jan
    So is only one more episode of the league left to be disclosed?! But then the league wud get only 6 eps. I thought it was getting 7 eps. as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masterge77 View Post
    I've heard somewhere that if Ash won a league, the series would end, though I personally believe that's nonsense myself.
    Yeah, it's a misquotation of a joking statement that "if he became a Pokemon Master, the series would end, wouldn't it?" from an old interview with an ex-writing staff member. People need to stop claiming this nonsense as truth already.

    Quote Originally Posted by PokemonMasters View Post
    Yes der is! Dey r only taking a break on 27th no?!
    Episode 24 airs January 10th. There's 2 weeks of no new episodes after this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PokemonMasters View Post
    So is only one more episode of the league left to be disclosed?! But then the league wud get only 6 eps. I thought it was getting 7 eps. as usual.
    24 is the last episode of the league. its called unova league conclusion. Episode N begins the following week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dephender View Post
    I disagree. These summaries never detail the plot all the way up to the end of the episode.

    Very likely.
    I agree with you.. It's far more likely that Riolu evolves, has beaten Unfezant, or beats Unfezant as a Lucario, and Ash sends out Snivy. Cliffhanger.
    - Next episode: Lucario drives Snivy into a tightspot, beats Snivy. Pikachu vs. Lucario. End of battle, confirmed because Lucario is the last pokemon out for Kotetsu..

    As such, I don't agree with the 'very likely'-part.. I think that Ash vs. Kotetsu will wrap up in the first few minutes of the episode, and than we get an 8minute Ash vs. Virgil fight in which Ash loses. Wrapping up the league doesn't need a half of an episode, especially if the proposed clips are used, look at the Sinnoh League, it took 2 minutes tops to show Tobias winning, getting his prize, and Ash and co leaving the stadium, talking to Barry, and talking about their futures. So it baffles me why we would need half of an episode to do the same.

    With this, I think we can safely assume that Boldore also evolves.. 'And then..' has almost always meant evolution, and with Gigalith on the calender this just seals the deal.

    I think the battle might go like this:

    BW2-23
    - Pignite vs. Ferrothorn: Pignite
    - Pignite vs. Samurott: Switch
    - Pikachu vs. Samurott: Pikachu
    - Pikachu vs. Swanna: Pikachu
    - Pikachu vs. ?: Switch
    - Oshawott vs. ?: Oshawott
    - Oshawott vs. Hydreigon: Hydreigon
    - Pignite vs. Hydreigon: Hydreigon
    - Boldore vs. Hydreigon: Evolution
    - Gigalith vs. Hydreigon: Gigalith
    - Gigalith vs. Riolu: Riolu
    - Unfezant vs. Riolu: Evolution, or Riolu followed by evolution.
    - Unfezant vs. Lucario: Lucario
    - Snivy vs. Lucario: Cliffhanger
    BW2-24:
    - Snivy vs. Lucario: Lucario
    - Pikachu vs. Lucario: Pikachu

    Winners:
    - Pignite: Ferrothorn
    - Pikachu: Samurott, Swanna, Lucario
    - Oshawott: ?
    - Gigalith: Hydreigon
    Fallgirls:
    - Snivy
    - Unfezant

    If the league goes my way, then we have the following vs. Virgil:
    - Snivy
    - Pignite
    - Scraggy
    - Unfezant
    - Oshawott/Krookodile/Palpitoad
    - Pikachu

    In which Pikachu and Oshawott are fallguys..
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    Man, unless there's alot of switching going on...this battle seems like it's going to be rushed to hell. We're likely going to be seeing the full teams from both sides. Shame. >_>

    Seems like we might be getting some of those OHKO's....

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    I don't know if someone post this summary yet but here it is. Boldor vs Hydrogen

    Having proceeded to the 4th round, Satoshi finally gets to battle Kotetsu! The 4th round matches are 6-on-6 Full Battles!! The secret weapn Kotetsu has mentioned earlier turns out to be the 'Brutal Pokémon' Sazandora! Satoshi answers by sending out the 'Ore Pokémon' Gantle to battle it! Gantle fires off well-placed and accurate moves at the powerful Sazandora! And then...!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p96822 View Post
    I don't know if someone post this summary yet but here it is. Boldor vs Hydrogen

    Having proceeded to the 4th round, Satoshi finally gets to battle Kotetsu! The 4th round matches are 6-on-6 Full Battles!! The secret weapn Kotetsu has mentioned earlier turns out to be the 'Brutal Pokémon' Sazandora! Satoshi answers by sending out the 'Ore Pokémon' Gantle to battle it! Gantle fires off well-placed and accurate moves at the powerful Sazandora! And then...!?
    This summary is ages old!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dephender View Post
    Yeah, it's a misquotation of a joking statement that "if he became a Pokemon Master, the series would end, wouldn't it?" from an old interview with an ex-writing staff member. People need to stop claiming this nonsense as truth already.



    Episode 24 airs January 10th. There's 2 weeks of no new episodes after this one.
    He doesn't become a pokemon master by beating a league anyway but I do think the series will end when he wins the Indigo League, I didn't know at all about that statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    He doesn't become a pokemon master by beating a league anyway but I do think the series will end when he wins the Indigo League, I didn't know at all about that statement.
    I agree with this, I feel when Nintendo/Pokemon/Gamefreak whoever makes the anime and the writers decide to finally bring the anime to an end it would happen by making Ash go back to Kanto and win the Indigo league. By then he should have a good amount of strong Pokemon that could win him the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Aker View Post
    Man, unless there's alot of switching going on...this battle seems like it's going to be rushed to hell. We're likely going to be seeing the full teams from both sides. Shame. >_>

    Seems like we might be getting some of those OHKO's....
    Uhh... If there's going to be a lot of switching, then wouldn't that make the battle more cramped into the confinementes of the episode? Switching takes time away from the battles. Limiting to two switches (if you were reacting to my post) would give more time for each individual battle.

    It doesn't seem like we will be getting some of those OHKO's. The only one that does seem like it is Pikachu vs. Swanna, and that's only by going with what the manga says.

    And how is it a shame that we'll be seeing the full teams of both?

    Where is this coming from? xD

    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    He doesn't become a pokemon master by beating a league anyway but I do think the series will end when he wins the Indigo League, I didn't know at all about that statement.
    Truth is that it will get pulled if ratings continue to drop like they do..
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    Doesn't and then! imply evolution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    Doesn't and then! imply evolution?
    it could imply a lot of things. It could be evolution but it could also be any number of other things
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locormus View Post
    Truth is that it will get pulled if ratings continue to drop like they do..
    What does that have to do with my post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by p96822 View Post
    I don't know if someone post this summary yet but here it is. Boldor vs Hydrogen

    Having proceeded to the 4th round, Satoshi finally gets to battle Kotetsu! The 4th round matches are 6-on-6 Full Battles!! The secret weapn Kotetsu has mentioned earlier turns out to be the 'Brutal Pokémon' Sazandora! Satoshi answers by sending out the 'Ore Pokémon' Gantle to battle it! Gantle fires off well-placed and accurate moves at the powerful Sazandora! And then...!?
    If it said "But then" instead of And then" I'd assume that Hydreigon turns the tables and smashes Boldore despite its "well-placed and accurate moves" but along with the calendar I truly believe that Boldore might indeed evolve now.
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