Emboar Discussion

[jesusfreak94]

You sorta make a good point but why is that when my Emboar takes on a Salamence, that's right a Salamence it can take it down with one hit and manage to knock out a Hippowden as well in a row holding just a sitrus berry. If you were to have a battle without super effective moves Emboar can be decent in some way. It's to do with how you use it. GOSH! >

OHKOing Salamence isn't exactly a notable accomplishment; Salamence isn't some super bulky tank. A LO Vanilluxe can OHKO offensive Salamence 3 times over with one Ice Beam, not to mention that most Salamence sets will easily outspeed and OHKO an offensive Emboar anyways. And I'd like to see these Emboar and Hippowdon sets you're talking about. Even a 252+ Emboar's Grass Knot caps out at 86.66% against a physically defensive Hippowdon, and that's pretty much Sitrus Berry Emboar's best shot at OHKOing it. A OHKO is only possible against a Hippowdon that is barely investing in bulk at all, which is a terrible idea, and beating bad players with bad EV spreads proves nothing.

[Zerogamer]

when comes to pokemon how use do can make a pokemon great or be **** like parasect. oh yes i would love to use him on my trick room team

[Lion Demon]

Only reason why people don't like Emboar competitively is because it's naturally compared against Infernape (Which has the Speed to compensate with the Attack & Special Attack) & Blaziken (Which has a wonderful Movepool & the blessed Speed Boost ability). The only thing that Emboar has against these 2 is the durability to survive longer due to it's HP & a 3 Point higher attack stat than Blaziken... Don't get me wrong, I've personally grown to love Emboar but facts are facts.

[Mystical Jackal]

Emboar sucks because of its type, stats and moves it was given in the meantime.

Emboar will always be comparated with Blaziken and Infernape because they share the same type and are starters. However, Emboar is the most different of them. While Blaziken and Infernape are offensive and fast, Emboar is offensive, but slow. Neither raising Emboar's HP is enough to make up for its Speed. Therefore, Emboar sucks because it cannot cover its weakness and its speed in the meantime. You can take advantage of its high HP and use some recoil moves, but few of them are really recommended in competitive battle. Because of Emboar's Speed, in most of the ocasions it'll be able to attack only once, because in the second turn it'll be fainted. Then, Emboar is suggested to hold Quick Claw, or have a partner with Trick Room in double/triple battles. One thing that I applaud on Emboar is its compatibility with Scald, which can be a lot useful against ground and rock foes.

GF could alter Emboar's type and stats, but I don't think they'll do that.

[Zachmac]

Then, Emboar is suggested to hold Quick Claw

Don't you mean choice scarf? This item has less then a 20% chance to active, so it's far, far too unreliable.

[Mystical Jackal]

Don't you mean choice scarf? This item has less then a 20% chance to active, so it's far, far too unreliable.

I know the difference about Choice Scarf and Quick Claw.

Yes, I meant Quick Claw. Though being 20%, it's better than nothing!

[broomstig]

the fire/fighting is just old now. it was good for combusken, and although i dont think they should have made another fire/fighter straight away, infernape was good, but emboar is just a let down especially as its the third one in a row. besides, charizard could beast them all

[Zachmac]

Yes, I meant Quick Claw. Though being 20%, it's better than nothing!

It is, but if you aren't going to use a pokemon you can depend on to do it's job, I see no point in using it. It's the same as attract; Yes, it can be annoying in some situations, but since two pokemon of the same species can have different genders, you won't be using it to handle any specific threats, so where is the point? In a situation where you have to handle something faster reliably, you may as well be using a speedy pokemon with a 20% accuracy move.

Choice Scarf is a much better item if you're aiming for speed.

[ysmr97]

I think that he can make the trek up to RU. But I feel he will become UU or maybe even OU when reckless releases.

[Lion Demon]

the fire/fighting is just old now. it was good for combusken, and although i dont think they should have made another fire/fighter straight away, infernape was good, but emboar is just a let down especially as its the third one in a row. besides, charizard could beast them all

Infernape can 1Hit KO Charizard with Stone Edge & Thunderpunch.

[emboarrocks]

I think that he can make the trek up to RU. But I feel he will become UU or maybe even OU when reckless releases.

Emboar is now RU (at least in smogon) btw. I hope that reckless will be released because a choice band, reckless boosted flare blitz can KO a lot of pokemon. It also gets wild charge and head smash so it can abuse it quite nicely. Emboar's bulk isn't THAT horrible. As long as you don't leave it in against aggron's head smash or tornadus's hurricane, it usually won't get KOed.

[dangochao]

hey there. i have a question. everyone talks about using Flare Blitz with Emboar but what about Heat Crash? go easy on me guys im an amature when it comes to competetive battling

[UbersSuck20]

Heat Crash isn't good on Emboar. Many powerhouses are heavy.

Has anyone ever used Emboar in a Trick Room team in UU?