What did Best Wishes do better than any other saga?

[Ciccone]

That's a tough question. I guess the animation improved a bit, but there are still things that bother me about it; like the fact that everything is so bright. Too neonish, watercolor-y. It's like a rainbow exploded or something. And I guess it was cool that the female traveling companion got a lot of development, even if it seemed to happen at the last minute. I'm trying to think of other stuff that has improved, but nothing else comes to mind. I'm not being shady at all. :c

[Hero of Ideals]

Warning, might be long

-the Animation. Finally Ash's eyes are confirmed brown, when back in Kanto, couldn't tell
-The companions. Cilan makes me laugh with his character as flawed he is while Iris entertained me with her dream to be a Dragon Master
-The Rivals. No more Garys or Pauls, rivals I rooted for except for Trip and Burgundy. Bianca one of my favorites.
-Pokemon and rotation. Ash has nine members this saga and rotation was subjective, not good but not not bad.
Team Rocket. While I loved them as comedy villains, they took a real villain role this saga, maybe not super powerful Pokemon but no more blastoffs.. Which I like and glad they still happen in Best Wishes
-The tournaments. I like the one on one, it was more mono o mono, and had great interactions.
COTDs and recurring faces. We had some interesting people, one of them Luke.
-Dawn's return. Yes I liked her cameo, it wasn't a big deal, she came back as a cameo should be, play a role in a major arc.
-Fast Pace. While some call it rushed, it got to the point, didn't drag on and wad fun.
-The gym battles. I like them, while people seem to bring down.
-More Pokemon Personality. More than we ever had
-The arcs. Lot of them were great to watch and we really wacky at times
-No Team Plasma for now. Sorry, couldn't help it.
-The league so far. Trip gets knock out first, yay

Over all, not what one can say perfect, but it did alot these past two-three years.

[Ver-mont]

I like the pacing. Maybe it was a little too fast, but I don't like when things are dragged too much, so I'd say it was a step on the right direction.

That's a tough question. I guess the animation improved a bit, but there are still things that bother me about it; like the fact that everything is so bright. Too neonish, watercolor-y. It's like a rainbow exploded or something.

Well, finally I see someone other than me saying this. I think I don't like the coloring at all, it's all too shiny and every surface is ridiculously polished and full of gradients.

[An00bis]

- Break ALL the Rules when it comes to captures. Dark Types. Electric Types. Fully Evolved. Get outta here.
- Tournaments. I like them for stretching time, but wish there was more rule variation.
- The Pacing. It doesn't drag on forever. It doesn't seem too fast. Seems just right.
- Iris and Cilian aren't boring, but they don't hog the spotlight from Ash either.

[fruitjuice222]

Most of these are not what BW did better, it looks more like a list of what you liked about BW instead.

[Doryuzu]

If you call Iris insulting both of them constantly and Cilan being in love with Ash great chemistry then....

...Why do people keep doing this? It's comedy, they're kids, that's what they do. Honestly, I'll never understand why some are so bent on demonizing Iris as being a bully who hates Satoshi and Dento. It's not just the fact that it's not true, it's just like....what's the point? Is it meant to be a veiled jab at her writing? Iris has done so much crap to show she loves traveling with Satoshi and Dento that I wonder if these comments are made to just attract attention sometimes.


Anyway, making out my list of BW positives. Hopefully everything is detailed enough that it explains why I see these aspects in this way and such.

[HatersGonnaHate]

They're all crap.

Bianca- bad personality and nowhere near as strong as ash
Stephan- Fine other than the fact that he almost never shows up
Trip- loses almost every time
Kotetsu- Fine but introduced way too late
Virgil- ...

Which ones do you consider decent?

Who people consider amazing, decent, or crap is all subjective, so leave it at that.

[ludiloco]

Just a better animation, that's all.

oh, and Kotetsu, of course

[Doryuzu]

-BW has the balls to try new things and it's breaking all the rules. :P That's probably the thing I like most about it, it's willing to break the mold and try new things and aspects. Rotation captures, middle-stage captures, FULLY-EVOLVED CAPTURES. It's like the fandom had a freaking massive brain fart when the writers tried something new, I guess people became so accustomed to that form of doing things that it can be hard accepting or liking something new.

-Iris and Cilan, thank you. These two are the best things about Best Wishes.

-I know the rotation system gets dissed often, but if the writers hadn't done the rotation system we would have Snivy, Unfezant, Oshawott, Pignite, Pikachu, and Scraggy as Ash's Pokemon. I can't imagine Ash's team without Krookodile, especially when he's probably the strongest BW Pokemon in Ash's current arsenal. Beartic, Dragonite battles would have not have been as good without that crocodile starring in them. I actually really liked Sewaddle before he became a Leavanny and Swadloon later on, his win over Dwebble was an innovative gym where we really saw Ash use some great strategy.

-Better personality than the DP Pokemon which pretty bland later on. Turtwig was great until he became Torterra, Infernape just was sorta serious, Staraptor had no personality, Gliscor's crybaby-ness was good, Gible's eccentricity was cool, Buizel just lost his badass-ness later on. Nothing on Brock's team was that big of a stand-out except Croagunk who was great. Nothing on Dawn's team except Piplup, Mamoswine, Togekiss, Buneary's crush, and that's it. Scraggy, Snivy, Oshawott, Krookodile, Pikachu, Excadrill, Dragonite, Emolga, and Pignite's personalities are fantastic.

-Ash acts like a kid should and has more of a personality in that regard and his responses to things are less generic and we actually get a sense of their being more than just typical male shounen star.

-Cilan, his goal is something new and interesting.

-Iris, her Dragon Master goal, development, Pokemon, flashbacks, backstory, great. I also love the fact Iris' isn't some girly Ash-personality like companion in the same way Dawn felt like half the time.

-A Castelia of characters. BW easily has the best COTDs and POTD ever, Maya, the Dream Thief, Charles, Luke, Angus, Betty, Getty, Scrafty, Gothita, Katharine, Palpitoad, Hydreigon, etc.

-Interesting rivals, my personal favorite is Georgia.

-Music, good animation.

-Dawn reappearing, her moments with Iris as well.

-Dragon focus and expansion on what it means to be a master of Dragons which I guess somewhat connects back to being a Pokemon Master.

-Tournaments, yeah we get some nice battling and interactions, I like it. I just feel like the writers have more to juggle with these tournaments unlike DP's Tag Battle Tournament which only focused on Paul and Chimchar, rival wise.

-BW, if anything, needs more length to really try out all the new **** its implemented.


Um....more to come later so....:P

[DawnBoy]

The characters and the character interactions were pretty interesting.
Also the music and animation is good.
That's about it.

[OceanicLanturn]

Handled better
- The Amount of Episodes. As much as I love DP to hell, it's quite long... and since I can't stand Iris, I'm glad that BW did less fillers.
- Animation. More 3D-esque... and that's about it.
- Handling of Team Rocket. IMO the Therian ending just killed them, but it's pretty much done better than any other sagas.
- Stuffs that the writers tried out. They tried out a rotational team, having electric types, having dark types etc etc. AND having tournaments

Tbh that's about it. I really don't think that BW did anything to me other than being an IMO disappointing saga...

[Bluelatios*]

I liked some parts of the animation, mainly the textures used for natural elements like water, rocks, plants etc. The trees in some forests were amazing. I also liked the better pace of the show. I know that's not much to go by and regret that I'm in the same boat with a lot of people regarding how the series was handled. Nonetheless I intend to stay positive for the future. Pokemon needs a positive fanbase more than ever. *Applauds Pokemaniac24 for thread.

[00poke_maniac]

Mamoru Miyano

I agree with Gotpika, about how Best Wishes is actually trying to change and pretty much everything else he said. XDD

[Platinum fan.]

Best Wishes did a good job at giving Pokemon personalities, I have to admit that. That is one area the anime is getting better at and BW has done the best job of Pokemon personalities even if some feel like rehashes. That's the only nice and positive thing I have to say about Best Wishes.

[Street Comedy]

I really like Cilan, he was an amazing replacement for Brock.
Iris and Cilan are Ash's best companions yet.
Rotation is an interesting concept.
The rivals.
Pokemon's personalities.

Best Wishes is probably the weakest season since Kanto, IMO but it changed up the formula to give it a fresh taste.

[Joltik-Kid]

Best Wishes did a good job at giving Pokemon personalities, I have to admit that. That is one area the anime is getting better at and BW has done the best job of Pokemon personalities even if some feel like rehashes. That's the only nice and positive thing I have to say about Best Wishes.

Only Pokemon with any big personalities are Oshawott and Krookodile... so I'm not sure how this is a positive. Snivy might sorta count, but it's still not all there, as she rarely displays her motherly side and isn't really stuck up all that much anymore. Scraggy's and Leavanny's things are in their nature, thus not their actual personalities, besides Leavanny only showed that side once.

[fruitjuice222]

Only Pokemon with any big personalities are Oshawott and Krookodile... so I'm not sure how this is a positive. Snivy might sorta count, but it's still not all there, as she rarely displays her motherly side and isn't really stuck up all that much anymore. Scraggy's and Leavanny's things are in it's nature not an actual personalities, besides Leavanny only showed that side once.

he also only had 1 episode where he wasnt battling

WOOHOO RANK UP!

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Only Pokemon with any big personalities are Oshawott and Krookodile... so I'm not sure how this is a positive. Snivy might sorta count, but it's still not all there, as she rarely displays her motherly side and isn't really stuck up all that much anymore. Scraggy's and Leavanny's things are in their nature, thus not their actual personalities, besides Leavanny only showed that side once.

Their nature reflects their personality, the other Scrafty wasn't like Scraggy at all, he has his own personality, even if its associated with the species, the whole pride thing about Piplup is based on his species also, did he not have a personality?

Scraggy, Snivy, Axew, Leavanny, Dragonite, Emolga all have shown great personality traits, the only time I remember a team or cast of pokemon being like this is back in Johto, when all the starters, Heracross and even Noctowl had clear personalities traits that distinguished them all.

Heck Palpitoad looked like he could have a great personality that was never used.

On to my opinion:

- Great cast, best personalities we ever had in the anime, pokemon and human wish
- Rivals were all fun as far as I'm concerned, I even enjoyed Virgil that came one episode before the league
- Battles were mostly good some great, actually 5,6,7 are probably on my top 10 gym battles, apparently Pikachu and Satoshi acting stupid in the electric gym and Tranquill not battling in the bug gym makes every gym and battle in BW bad, my favourite gym before this was Buizel vs Lucario(even with all the convinient BS), I have atleast the 4gym tied with that.
- Tournaments, we had greats 1vs1 in the tournaments and one was used to develop Scraggy that really needed wins at that time, it was great fo the main kids and the rivals besides the overdone gags from Belle
- Big team and rotation, some pokemon could have used one or two more episodes but they all got something to do most of the times, my only problem is still with Palpitoad
- Shooti ending up with Cheren storyline, I liked it ingame and I like Alder, I think it was something diferent and I enjoyed it, would have liked if they had a full battle and one or two more battles during the region though
- CotDs/tournament characters appearing at the league and showing others characters are capable not just the main characters, also its something I want since always to happen
- The animation is cool too, the move slacking is another story but this thread is not to talk about that
- OH but last but not least TR not ruining every single episode for me and actually being able to enjoy them since I haven't since Kanto
Edit:
- I also loved the whole Sandile story and how it was a capture that took a while and worked along the storyline, heck all the captures were great but I usually enjoy the capture in every region anyway, I just though the Krokorok one was well done


Not going to make comparisons since this thread isn't for it but I really can't think of a region that added this much to the series and to me this are all positives.

[00poke_maniac]

*looks at Cyber's post*

Why are you putting negatives in a positive thread? XD

I found Dento's dorkiness a nice touch (have you seen the way he runs? He runs like he's in high step marching band or something)XD He's so bishounen but at the same time sort of breaks that. XD

[fruitjuice222]

*looks at Cyber's post*

Why are you putting negatives in a positive thread? XD

I found Dento's dorkiness a nice touch (have you seen the way he runs? He runs like he's in high step marching band or something)XD He's so bishounen but at the same time sort of breaks that. XD

Maybe if someone makes a complaint thread he would post the positives?