Savants of Sommeliershipping.

**Likeitornot.** · 26th November 2012, 9:49 PM

Sommeliershipping (Dento x Cabernet).

This is the Sommeliershipping thread, which discusses the theories of a romantic relationship between two Sommeliers; Dent(o)/Cilan, Ash's current male travelling companion, and Cabernet/Burgundy, his rival that debuted in BW019. Simply, the backstory to their relationship is that Cabernet was once a trainer, and challenged Dento in battle, but lost. Feeling very stung by these events, she decided to become a Sommeliere/Connaisseuse in order to avenge herself against him. The name Sommeliershipping comes from the Japanese name for a Pokemon Connaisseur, a Pokemon Sommelier.

Rules.

- Obviously, all SPPf rules apply here, and the rules for the Shipping forum. So to "localise" them, I guess...
- Don't flame or bash any shipping, character or member, and don't start any flamewars here.
- Don't discuss any other shipping, no matter how you tie to this one. This thread is for Sommeliershipping and that only. Maybe a brief mention, but be very brief about.
- Explain your reasons when you reply to a topic.
- Respect each other, and another's opinions.
- Anyone can join, really, as long as you like the shipping.
- Have fun! :>

Oh, yeah, it'll probably be discussing about Sommeliershipping from the point of view of the Original, so if you're watching the dub, you might be a bit lost here.

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So, let's start off, eh? What's your taste of Sommeliershipping? Explain why it is this.

**Princess Raspberyl** · 27th November 2012, 4:42 PM

Yays~! Sommeliershipping thread! =D Love this pairing <3 I think they're funny and cute together and would make a really good pair, so yeps. :3

**Sweet May** · 28th November 2012, 2:25 AM

Ooh awesome! Saves me the time to make the thread in the future. ^^; Any way, I love Sommeliershipping! I have a taste for rival pairings that involve arguing, even if it's just Burgundy doing all the work. It's cute that she even tries to defeat A-class Connoisseur Cilan and secretly shows feelings for him only to unleash the fire dragon inside of her to deny it.

**Piplup740811** · 28th November 2012, 3:48 AM

Ahhh finally a thread for this ship!!!!! It's my BW OTP I'd love to join!

**Winter Storm** · 28th November 2012, 3:54 AM

I was thinking of when a thread for this shipping was going to be made. I'm glad to see it. =D

I love sommeliershipping, I guess mostly because I never quite shipped Cilan with anyone. Then, Burgundy came along and declared herself his rival and that's what got me hooked into it. I'm also a sucker for rival relationships and love-hate relationships. X3

What I find really cute is how Burgundy can be sometimes oblivious to the fact that Cilan really does care for her and want her to be a top class connoisseuse(sp?) and trainer. :3

**Moonlight Amaryllis** · 28th November 2012, 3:59 AM

~~I'm going to be the only one to answer the topic~~

I'm joining. Any resistance is futile.

What's your taste of Sommeliershipping? Explain why it is this.

*deep breath* *Connoisseur mode* I feel that it's a cool and relaxed flavor being mixed up with a spicy and energy-filled one, and combined together, they'll create the sparks desired for the oh-so-well-known, "opposites attract" phrase~; the two will create something totally different!

...

That sounds weird...*flees*

**Likeitornot.** · 28th November 2012, 3:25 PM

Hello, all! Glad to see everyone here!
Yeah... I did pick an eccentric topic, that's indeed true, but I wanted to make a theme to suit the fact that they are both Sommeliers. Ah, Moonlight Absol, that's a very observant evaluation, so I thought it was good. My turn, I suppose...

What's your taste of Sommeliershipping? Explain why it is this.

Well, I would say it has a very flamboyant aggressive initial taste with a sweeter aftermath. This is due to the mix of the two Sommelier's expressiveness (in very different ways) and potential, as well as hidden emotions ~~'cause that's what we're aiming for~~ and it creates such an affable blend. A definite clash of spicy and savoury, to match how their personalites are in a simplistic sense of a condiment.

**gohan5** · 28th November 2012, 11:54 PM

Would like to join this ^^

I've liked this shipping ever since Burgundy first appeared, something about it always clicked with me. Part of it was that I wanted to pair Cilan up with someone, but then I just saw something in this pairing that made me like it. Maybe it has something to do with them both being rivals, as I do like rival pairings, but it's also a fun pairing to support. I think that Cilan's over the top behavior is best suited with someone that can be just as over the top. Actually it serves to sometimes bring Cilan back down to earth, which is good. I like that they are similar and yet somewhat different, the two mesh together well to create a good pair.

What's your taste of Sommeliershipping? Explain why it is this.

Hmm I'd say that it's a spicy, but has a more mellow or sweet aftertaste. On the surface it's a spicy and somewhat one-sided rivalry with Burgundy always having something to prove, but once you dig a little deeper it has a sweet flavor when you begin to see Burgundy open up and how much Cilan respects and cares for her and her goal. Of course this is only made so because of how passionate the two Sommeliers are.

**Meowth City** · 30th November 2012, 12:52 AM

I love this shipping. In fact, it's fast becoming my new favourite BW pairing.

There's something about Cilan that makes him so shippable :3 and this is no exception. I think he does have a certain amount of respect for her and he does want her to be a better connoisseur, but she's too stubborn to see it. While she just wants his approval more than anything.

**Likeitornot.** · 30th November 2012, 5:58 PM

Welcome, gohan5 and Meowth City! Always pleasant to have additions. Yes, I adore it too; in fact, it's my overall OTP.
I think I'll put another topic on the table, an easier introduction one...

What was the very first trigger that made you ship Sommeliershipping, and why?

This could range from anything, from hints to potential.

**Moonlight Amaryllis** · 1st December 2012, 11:44 PM

What was the very first trigger that made you ship Sommeliershipping, and why?

After finishing Burgundy's debut episode. I was thinking, "Well, shoot me if she doesn't actually have a crush on Cilan; look at her blush!". I then shipped them together. Though now that I think about what could've happened in the Gym battle that made Burgundy "hate" Cilan, her feelings could be valid...which is kind of scary.

**Likeitornot.** · 2nd December 2012, 10:56 AM

Hey, everyone! I was linked me to a lovely Sommeliershipping fanfiction by someone and it was a pleasant read! It was unique, as firstly it was in second person, and secondly, it was one of the few ones that aren't M rated (though more of those are being added fortunately). You mightn't like it, but I didn't mind it.

Originally Posted by Moonlight Amaryllis

Though now that I think about what could've happened in the Gym battle that made Burgundy "hate" Cilan, her feelings could be valid...which is kind of scary.

Her feelings of hate or love? Sorry, I just am curious.

**Night Flower** · 3rd January 2013, 6:52 PM

Well... I'm new. Hello...

Well, I want to say that I love Sommeliershipping. In fact, is my favourite Shipping. Maybe Burgundy didn't realized yet that she's in love with Cilan. I hope she appear soon. I want to see that she really has secret feelings. But I want to see that Cilan also has a little crush on her.

**Moonlight Amaryllis** · 14th January 2013, 4:33 AM

~~Woe is this thread~~

Hello there again, Night Flower.

Originally Posted by Likeitornot.

Her feelings of hate or love? Sorry, I just am curious.

Hate, more or less. Granted, she could very well be exaggerating when she talks about Cilan's cruel words to her when she lost, seeing Cilan's blameless apology and the writers shooing her off as a liar. However, during her fight against him in her debut episode, he actually does throw some nasty things at her, albeit toned down in the English version. We have also seen Cilan snap and flip over to extremely PO'ed to normal in a heartbeat (In Ash and Trip's Third Battle); I was actually kind of scared myself. Seeing he is labeled Cute and Psycho, we have some evidence that he really could have said those means things to her. On the other hand, his apology seemed true and honest, so ge could very well be bipolar. But that's just me. ~~Also, we have possible Yandere x Tsundere~~

**Night Flower** · 21st January 2013, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Moonlight Amaryllis

~~Also, we have possible Yandere x Tsundere~~

"Yandere x Tsundere"? What's that?

**BlueDragonfangirl** · 22nd January 2013, 9:38 AM

Other than Ash, guess I like her second best for Dento. If he does stay, shey'll follow him right? To try and defeat him like always.

**gohan5** · 25th January 2013, 8:50 AM

Originally Posted by Night Flower

"Yandere x Tsundere"? What's that?

Yandere and Tsundere are common tropes used to describe a certain characteristic and is most common in anime. Tsundere is when a person is perceived as being cold in attitude to one person but may actually only act that way in order to hide their true feelings. On the opposite end, a Yandere is someone that is generally a happy and really nice person but may have a certain thing that makes them "snap." So as in this ship, I believe they were alluding that Cilan is the Yandere (nice guy with a snap trigger) and Burgundy is the tsundere (generally rude or cold natured to cover her true feelings). So there's the anime lesson for today XD

What was the very first trigger that made you ship Sommeliershipping, and why?

Well I definitely shipped Cilan and Burgundy by the end of Burgundy's debut episode. I enjoyed Burgundy's character and how she maybe tried to pump her abilities up way more than she should have, but she was an enjoyable character. And then when she all but screamed bloody murder when she saw Cilan, that perked my interest. I think what made me like them was that they were both eccentric, but in different ways. Cilan is all boastful and proud of his abilities, verging on having his nose in the air most of the time, while Burgundy maybe tries a little too hard to prove herself. But I think her story of how she lost to Cilan and decided to become a Sommeliere is what got me. Who does that? XD While I'm sure she may have exaggerated her story some, I can at least see some merit to it and that made me like her. Plus in my mind she seems to want to impress Cilan above all else, usually in the form of beating him to the dirt, but still XD I mean, it just makes me smile whenever we see her have a "soft" moment with Cilan, and she vows to get better. Well that's my story :P

**Moonlight Amaryllis** · 25th January 2013, 9:37 PM

Originally Posted by gohan5

Yandere and Tsundere are common tropes used to describe a certain characteristic and is most common in anime. Tsundere is when a person is perceived as being cold in attitude to one person but may actually only act that way in order to hide their true feelings. On the opposite end, a Yandere is someone that is generally a happy and really nice person but may have a certain thing that makes them "snap." So as in this ship, I believe they were alluding that Cilan is the Yandere (nice guy with a snap trigger) and Burgundy is the tsundere (generally rude or cold natured to cover her true feelings). So there's the anime lesson for today XD

Thank for explaining so I don't have to, but one thing; when a Yandere snaps, it is ALWAYS something to do with their romantic interest/crush/lover. When a Yangire snaps, it has nothing to do with love whatsoever. But for the most part, everything you said was correct

What was the very first trigger that made you ship Sommeliershipping, and why?

The first episode where Burgundy appeared. She always seemed to be blushing and hiding her feelings from day one to me, so I told myself that she most certainly had some sort of warmer feelings for Cilan than she claims to. Although, if we touch more on the topic concerning her apparent humilating defeat, how will that affect the ship? Because personally, I haven't passed her off for being over-dramatic and a liar just yet.

**Night Flower** · 25th January 2013, 9:50 PM

Not only in the anime, but I want to see more SommelierShipping fanfics (I could make my own fanfic, but I don't have anything in mind...). This Shipping needs more love!

Another thing: Can I be on the members list?

**Moonlight Amaryllis** · 3rd February 2013, 7:28 PM

Originally Posted by Night Flower

Not only in the anime, but I want to see more SommelierShipping fanfics (I could make my own fanfic, but I don't have anything in mind...). This Shipping needs more love!

I am actually planning on writing a Cilan/Burgundy chaptered fanfic after my current fanfic is finished. It takes place in an alternate universe/AU, but it will still be appropriatly shippy. I might ask for ideas from this thread when it gets rolling \^^/ ~~Shameless self-promotion FTW!~~

New topic ~~because this poor thread is dying yet again~~

What are some scenarios you hope will happen in the anime? Remember what is currently happening in the anime, and make sure the idea and legit and NOT a fanfic idea!

**Night Flower** · 3rd February 2013, 8:11 PM

What are some scenarios you hope will happen in the anime?

"Cilan like naturally grabs Burgundy's hand and kiss it gently. Burgundy rudely pulls her hand back blushing. Yet, there is anger in her eyes.

Burgundy: *Blushing* WHAT WAS THAT?!
Cilan: *Smiling* A kiss, why?

Georgia starts chuckling, knowing that Burgundy's work on hide her feelings is getting worse and worse. Cilan and Iris took notice that Ash, Bianca and Stephan had gone to register for the Tournament, so they say goodbye to their rivals and go. Burgundy notice Georgia was laughing.

Georgia: *In a teasing tone* Can we go to register? I can wait to battle Iris!"

Did I get too far?

Originally Posted by Moonlight Amaryllis

I am actually planning on writing a Cilan/Burgundy chaptered fanfic after my current fanfic is finished. It takes place in an alternate universe/AU, but it will still be appropriatly shippy. I might ask for ideas from this thread when it gets rolling \^^/ Shameless self-promotion FTW!

Like in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, in this alternate universe there are only Pokemon, so the characters could be Pikachu (Ash), Axew (Iris), Pansage (Cilan), Snivy (Trip), Oshawott (Burgundy), Cubchoo (Georgia), Tepig (Bianca), Purrloin (Stephan), Riolu (Cameron), Eevee (Virgil) and Shelmet (Prof. Juniper). You can do it a MultiShipping, with DentCabe (main pairing), SatoBel, KeniAi and ShooLan.

Well... this was my idea of my own Fanfic, but I offer it to you. I really hope you like it and take it, but if you don't, I will have to understand...

**Moonlight Amaryllis** · 3rd February 2013, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Night Flower

What are some scenarios you hope will happen in the anime?

"Cilan like naturally grabs Burgundy's hand and kiss it gently. Burgundy rudely pulls her hand back blushing. Yet, there is anger in her eyes.

Burgundy: *Blushing* WHAT WAS THAT?!
Cilan: *Smiling* A kiss, why?

Georgia starts chuckling, knowing that Burgundy's work on hide her feelings is getting worse and worse. Cilan and Iris took notice that Ash, Bianca and Stephan had gone to register for the Tournament, so they say goodbye to their rivals and go. Burgundy notice Georgia was laughing.

Georgia: *In a teasing tone* Can we go to register? I can wait to battle Iris!"

Did I get too far?

...I have no idea. I mean, Cilan is a gentlemen, after all, so I suppose it seems more or less legit, but...*shrugs*

Like in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, in this alternate universe there are only Pokemon, so the characters could be Pikachu (Ash), Axew (Iris), Pansage (Cilan), Snivy (Trip), Oshawott (Burgundy), Cubchoo (Georgia), Tepig (Bianca), Purrloin (Stephan), Riolu (Cameron), Eevee (Virgil) and Shelmet (Prof. Juniper). You can do it a MultiShipping, with DentCabe (main pairing), SatoBel, KeniAi and ShooLan.

Well... this was my idea of my own Fanfic, but I offer it to you. I really hope you like it and take it, but if you don't, I will have to understand...

That...actually wasn't the AU I was thinking of. This AU is actually more "medieval", I suppose. It's a little difficult to explain in just a few words. I would go into more detail, but...

I suggest strongly you write it yourself. I have too much on my plate right now to write it, but I think it would be best if you wrote your own idea.

**Night Flower** · 4th February 2013, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by Moonlight Amaryllis

That...actually wasn't the AU I was thinking of. This AU is actually more "medieval", I suppose. It's a little difficult to explain in just a few words. I would go into more detail, but...

Don't worry...

I suggest strongly you write it yourself. I have too much on my plate right now to write it, but I think it would be best if you wrote your own idea.

Do you think I'm ready to write a Fanfic?

**Moonlight Amaryllis** · 7th February 2013, 4:31 AM

Originally Posted by Night Flower

Do you think I'm ready to write a Fanfic?

I don't know, are you?

What are some scenarios you hope will happen in the anime?

Normally, I'd hope for yet another tournament, so Burgundy can have some more interaction with Cilan and thus some funny moments, abd than they can battle and recieve development in their relationship, but alas they have already entered the N arc in the anime. Hopefully, the rivals join the main gang in battling Team Plasma \^_^/

(I'm sorry if the above is misspelled or worded weird, it is late where I am as I type this)

**Night Flower** · 7th February 2013, 2:25 PM

Originally Posted by Moonlight Amaryllis

I don't know, are you?

Yes, but I don't have anything in mind. I'm thinking on making this Shipping one-sided, but I don't know if I should make it on Burgundy's or Cilan's part. I neither know how to public my FanFics (please, answer that in a PM).

Originally Posted by Sweet May

It's cute that she even tries to defeat A-class Connoisseur Cilan and secretly shows feelings for him only to unleash the fire dragon inside of her to deny it.

That's why she's my favourite character and why I can't wait for her to appear again soon. She MUST fall in love with Cilan or have secret feelings.

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