Pokémon Best Wishes Series 2 Episode N [FIRST POST]

[Pokemaniac24]

Sorry if I offended you but I'm pretty sure I got what your saying I just feel the VAs should be happy while working on the show and if thats not what they want Pokemon should change a few things.

You're being ignorant now. That's not how the show works. The voice talents got what they wanted for over 500 episodes and they also got a radio show. They got to keep the motto and they are getting back their hot air balloon and they will blast off again soon. These writers are giving the voice talents what they want and have been since they started complaining. The writers have been respecting the voice talents and from what I have heard from multiple people, the voice talents ARE NOT respecting the writers back. If you ever get a job as a writer and the voice talents don't respect you for doing your job, then you will see how it feels. The writers have given the voice talents much, much more than they deserve. What have the voice talents given to the writers? I have a feeling the big change made to TR was because fans didn't like what TR had become in DP. So the writers had to make a change and according to the ratings, the change worked in their favor. The highest rated episode since TR vs TP got postponed was the Nimbassa Subway Mission 2 parter. Make of that what you will. And NO, I don't think you've read my posts correctly AT ALL.

[Squirtle_007]

Looks like Team Rocket sucks again ...

OK, I´m not gonna overreact like whiners do, it´s just a screenshot:
- I won´t create a bashing topic like Cybercubed does
- I won´t say 1000 times that I will stop watching the series when I will still watch it and abuse the words "reductive" and "redundant" like Ciccone does
- I won´t say this season sucks because Yawn is not here and she didn´t swept the Junior Cup with her dullness like King Minun does
- I won´t one-line-bashing spam like 1stkar... Robert does

As long as TR won´t be in every single episode and don´t bring back their mediocre and useless little crap Mime Jr. and the annoying blue bag Wobbuffet, I´ll be fine ... not perfect ... but fine enough.

[The Great Butler]

I understand your not happy with Team Rocket being turned back to comical characters and all but its not that bad is it?

Yes it is that bad. Every minute of screentime wasted on Team Rocket proving that there's no limit to how stupid 'humor' can be is a minute wasted not establishing N. It's a minute wasted not furthering Ghetsis and Colress's plan. It's a minute wasted not developing Cilan's Connoisseur skills. It's a minute wasted not resolving Dragonite's issues. And yes, it is a minute wasted not having Ash training his Pokémon and getting better at what he does. Ask yourself if you like that.

And the seiyuu have something called a job. They do not have the right to dictate to the people they work for what kind of job they will do. In the real world, anyone who tells their boss how the job they have been hired to fill will be done will lose that job. But I guess it's more important here to make sure Rei Ayanami keeps voicing Jessie.

[Demon Kitsune Yoko Kurama]

Is it from the screenshot that people are saying Team Rocket's reverting back to their old selves? I just wanted to make sure.

[EmphaticPikachu]

You're being ignorant now. That's not how the show works. The voice talents got what they wanted for over 500 episodes and they also got a radio show. They got to keep the motto and they are getting back their hot air balloon and they will blast off again soon. These writers are giving the voice talents what they want and have been since they started complaining. The writers have been respecting the voice talents and from what I have heard from multiple people, the voice talents ARE NOT respecting the writers back. If you ever get a job as a writer and the voice talents don't respect you for doing your job, then you will see how it feels. The writers have given the voice talents much, much more than they deserve. What have the voice talents given to the writers? I have a feeling the big change made to TR was because fans didn't like what TR had become in DP. So the writers had to make a change and according to the ratings, the change worked in their favor. The highest rated episode since TR vs TP got postponed was the Nimbassa Subway Mission 2 parter. Make of that what you will. And NO, I don't think you've read my posts correctly AT ALL.

...I think things have been reversed. :P

don't mind me, just stalkin the conversations.

As for team rocket returning to their old selfs...hm...

I can imagine the first line in japanese when they blast off.

"Its been so long since we felt this...You know what? this doesn't feel bad, this feels gooooooooooooooooooood! *ping*"

/killed. xD

Still they KO'd pikachu right? So they must have something. :/...

[Pokemaniac24]

...I think things have been reversed. :P

don't mind me, just stalkin the conversations.

As for team rocket returning to their old selfs...hm...

I can imagine the first line in japanese when they blast off.

"Its been so long since we felt this...You know what? this doesn't feel bad, this feels gooooooooooooooooooood! *ping*"

/killed. xD

Still they KO'd pikachu right? So they must have something. :/...

No, it really hasn't. This isn't gonna end well for the show. And if TRio brings the ratings down for Episode N, I wouldn't be surprised.

[The Great Butler]

Still they KO'd pikachu right? So they must have something. :/...

It's merely to establish their new Pokémon.

[BlueDragonfangirl]

You're being ignorant now. That's not how the show works. The voice talents got what they wanted for over 500 episodes and they also got a radio show. They got to keep the motto and they are getting back their hot air balloon and they will blast off again soon. These writers are giving the voice talents what they want and have been since they started complaining. The writers have been respecting the voice talents and from what I have heard from multiple people, the voice talents ARE NOT respecting the writers back. If you ever get a job as a writer and the voice talents don't respect you for doing your job, then you will see how it feels. The writers have given the voice talents much, much more than they deserve. What have the voice talents given to the writers? I have a feeling the big change made to TR was because fans didn't like what TR had become in DP. So the writers had to make a change and according to the ratings, the change worked in their favor. The highest rated episode since TR vs TP got postponed was the Nimbassa Subway Mission 2 parter. Make of that what you will. And NO, I don't think you've read my posts correctly AT ALL.

I'm just stating my opinion on this is all, sorry if I feel the VAs should be treated with respect. I get you think the writers should get some love back but I guess they just care more about the VAs than there own. When do they really care what fans think? This entire Best Wishes series has been a big F U to fans in my opinion, not talking about Team Rocket either just over all.

[EmphaticPikachu]

No, it really hasn't. This isn't gonna end well for the show. And if TRio brings the ratings down for Episode N, I wouldn't be surprised.

..I think you misinterpreted the statement. Oh well, it didn't make much sense without my headcanon anyway.

*shrug* When something big happens, of course people are gonna flock to it. I don't see how team rocket is anymore annoying then the constant filler plots. ._.... (in honest opinion, i liked them in the filler plots :P)

Prove that they're going to bring down the ratings :P...

@great butler we'll see

[The Great Butler]

I'm just stating my opinion on this is all, sorry if I feel the VAs should be treated with respect. I get you think the writers should get some love back but I guess they just care more about the VAs than there own. When do they really care what fans think? This entire Best Wishes series has been a big F U to fans in my opinion, not talking about Team Rocket either just over all.

Not sticking to the formula that made their series more boring than 3/4 of Bleach is the farthest thing from that as you can get. Sure, not everything has worked, but the one thing you can't accuse BW of being is predictable. Even his obvious loss to Kotetsu got a curveball thrown into it.

If AG and DP were the first two series, then Kanto came third and was written exactly as it was originally, would you still be saying this?

[BlueDragonfangirl]

Not sticking to the formula that made their series more boring than 3/4 of Bleach is the farthest thing from that as you can get. Sure, not everything has worked, but the one thing you can't accuse BW of being is predictable. Even his obvious loss to Kotetsu got a curveball thrown into it.

If AG and DP were the first two series, then Kanto came third and was written exactly as it was originally, would you still be saying this?

No I wouldn't, I've enjoyed every Pokemon series till now. Its fine to change things, lets not go over the top here. Is it good how they changed Ash into this? I'm a big Ash fan and am sticking out as long as possible but this series for him in my opinion again has been pretty disapointing.

[pokemonsquared]

Not sticking to the formula that made their series more boring than 3/4 of Bleach is the farthest thing from that as you can get. Sure, not everything has worked, but the one thing you can't accuse BW of being is predictable. Even his obvious loss to Kotetsu got a curveball thrown into it.

If AG and DP were the first two series, then Kanto came third and was written exactly as it was originally, would you still be saying this?

I would be like why does magmar look so much more fearsome than magmortar? Also how on earth does Pikachu go from tying with Latios to disobeying Ash in the span of 2 episodes :P among others.

[The Great Butler]

No I wouldn't, I've enjoyed every Pokemon series till now. Its fine to change things, lets not go over the top here. Is it good how they changed Ash into this? I'm a big Ash fan and am sticking out as long as possible but this series for him in my opinion again has been pretty disapointing.

Are you sure things like Ash needing to turn sprinklers on Onix to win, getting half his badges out of pity, brutally losing to Lt. Surge, thinking about releasing Pikachu, barely defeating a Bellsprout and ultimately losing because his Pokémon wouldn't fight would not bother you coming after he beat Paul, then?

[BlueDragonfangirl]

Are you sure things like Ash needing to turn sprinklers on Onix to win, getting half his badges out of pity, brutally losing to Lt. Surge, thinking about releasing Pikachu, barely defeating a Bellsprout and ultimately losing because his Pokémon wouldn't fight would not bother you coming after he beat Paul, then?

Hes fallen hard in the Best Wishes series since beating Paul, its like the same thing now any ways =/

[Pokemaniac24]

Hes fallen hard in the Best Wishes series since beating Paul, its like the same thing now any ways =/

Ash is still way more competent now than he was in Kanto.

[ConUxie223]

I wonder if Team Rocket is going after Pikachu because they know that it can attract Zekrom because of the connection it had with him in the first episode. It would be pretty neat if Giovanni finally acknowledged that Pikachu would be useful to him and they manage to steal Zekrom by using Pikachu as bait I mean just because they've gone back to their original goal could simply mean that they've gone back to the original goal they had in the first episodes of BW and are going to try to go after the legendary Pokemon they mentioned to Giovanni in BW1

[EmphaticPikachu]

Ash is still way more competent now than he was in Kanto.

While I understand the reason for the comparison...its still very hard to compare them considering their different points in his life. Despite the obvious not aging and some regression, even the writers know not to make him THAT stupid again. Basicly anything he did that was really stupid was from excitement at the begining of a region. He did that in Hoenn...sometime in sinnoh (odd that i don't remember that one ._.) and defiantly in best wishes.

[BlueDragonfangirl]

Ash is still way more competent now than he was in Kanto.

Hmm, I guess. Still he hasn't won a single thing this series, he hasn't really been using his brains in the gym battles this series, every once in a while will see some thing of some sort, again my opinion.

[EmphaticPikachu]

How? He hasn't won a single thing this series, he hasn't really been using his brains in the gym battles this series, every once in a while will see some thing of some sort, again my opinion.

.....................
In kanto he knew...jack shiz. ._...thats different from lowering a brain knotch. XD
(Well in the begining anyway.)

[Pokemaniac24]

While I understand the reason for the comparison...its still very hard to compare them considering their different points in his life. Despite the obvious not aging and some regression, even the writers know not to make him THAT stupid again. Basicly anything he did that was really stupid was from excitement at the begining of a region. He did that in Hoenn...sometime in sinnoh (odd that i don't remember that one ._.) and defiantly in best wishes.

I don't think he's been nearly as bad as some people are making him out to be.

Hmm, I guess. Still he hasn't won a single thing this series, he hasn't really been using his brains in the gym battles this series, every once in a while will see some thing of some sort, again my opinion.

He placed in the Top 4 in all Don Battle Tournaments, he got Top 8 using only his Unova Pokémon in the Unova League, he won 8 gym badges. He did well.