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    Quote Originally Posted by d4rk_tailed View Post
    I didnt quite understand the 2nd paragraph you wrote?
    Basically if all Pokémon had were screeches and grunts, they could NEVER be able to talk like a human.

    Why do think a dog or a cat, hasn't straight out mimicked a word by a human. I don't think its do to lack of intelligence (but perhaps a part of it) but it's mostly because they only imitate so many sounds with their "vocal cords."

    But to the first one, same sentient level? Real world animals, particularly chimps, dogs and certain others are as smart compared to humans as Pokemon are portrayed to be right? If animals cant say their names, I dont think Pokemon should either Sorry.
    Almost all animals except humans rely solely on instinct.

    If you actually looked at what humans are outside of the other animal kingdom, you realize that humans are the only animals that they have such advanced language skills. And we also have what, cognitive thinking. Sure there are some bright animals out there.

    But they lack what humans do.

    All Pokémon for the most part, are like humans but a different species.

    Like let's say that humans are the most intelligent of the primates, it's why we can talk, it's why our language has grammar, syntax, and nuances that we can understand that no other primate or other animal for that matter can comprehend.

    Pokémon are the equivalent of the other top species.

    Like Pikachu being a top rodent, that if they tried really hard could speak human language.

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    If they are sentient creatures then why don't they just talk instead of saying their names?
    As Meowth told us, it's not easy for a Pokémon to use syllables that they aren't used to saying. There many English words that are easy to say for me, even if I never seen them before, because they follow the English language.

    However if I listen to a Spanish song a million times, I would only be able to repeat only a few of the words (words that are close to English words). It's a lot like that, that's why it is so hard for anyone to follow other languages they don't understand because a lot of it sounds like gibberish.

    Have you ever heard a foreign language and their talking at any pace, and you don't even know where to begin to start repeating what you heard. It might be easy for humans to mimic words they hear, but sometimes it is difficult. Just imagine how hard it would be to repeat a sentence, a paragraph, even a song you've heard millions of times.

    So while all Pokémon do have the capability of speaking human, realize that it is a different language for them, and probably even harder for them to learn, than say humans trying to learn another human language.

    Plus I think it's easier to understand a language than to speak it.
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    Anyway ON TOP of all that, I think you're looking at it the wrong way.

    It's a popular, and makes sense theory that Pokémon were named after the noises they made.

    They aren't saying their name, that's just how they speak, and their names are a result of the sounds they make. But that doesn't work on the Pokémon that do have animalistic noises but then again clearly they are a different case and really doesn't prove the theory wrong. Surely not all Pokémon could've been named after the noises they make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dman_dustin View Post
    As Meowth told us, it's not easy for a Pokémon to use syllables that they aren't used to saying. There many English words that are easy to say for me, even if I never seen them before, because they follow the English language.

    However if I listen to a Spanish song a million times, I would only be able to repeat only a few of the words (words that are close to English words). It's a lot like that, that's why it is so hard for anyone to follow other languages they don't understand because a lot of it sounds like gibberish.

    Have you ever heard a foreign language and their talking at any pace, and you don't even know where to begin to start repeating what you heard. It might be easy for humans to mimic words they hear, but sometimes it is difficult. Just imagine how hard it would be to repeat a sentence, a paragraph, even a song you've heard millions of times.

    So while all Pokémon do have the capability of speaking human, realize that it is a different language for them, and probably even harder for them to learn, than say humans trying to learn another human language.

    Plus I think it's easier to understand a language than to speak it.
    I suppose you are right. Since I'm not from an english speaking country I still find it hard to understand some words from english songs... 8D
    But then it should be easier for Pokémon raised from eggs by trainers to learn the human language... unless they are already born capable of speaking their own language...

    Quote Originally Posted by dman_dustin View Post
    Anyway ON TOP of all that, I think you're looking at it the wrong way.

    It's a popular, and makes sense theory that Pokémon were named after the noises they made.

    They aren't saying their name, that's just how they speak, and their names are a result of the sounds they make. But that doesn't work on the Pokémon that do have animalistic noises but then again clearly they are a different case and really doesn't prove the theory wrong. Surely not all Pokémon could've been named after the noises they make.
    What doesn't make sense to me is that the names aren't just random words, but they do have an etymology that perfectly describes that Pokémon species.
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    It would seem more realistic, but I don't think it would be better. I think them saying their names allows for a tad more personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEliteEmpoleon View Post
    It would seem more realistic, but I don't think it would be better. I think them saying their names allows for a tad more personality.
    Funny, I always thought that it made them look like idiots who were only capable of saying one word. Also, I'll only fully accept it (I 99% accept it now) when I hear dogs saying "dog" over and over and when the birds tweet "bird" ad nausiem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin Attaxx View Post
    Funny, I always thought that it made them look like idiots who were only capable of saying one word. Also, I'll only fully accept it (I 99% accept it now) when I hear dogs saying "dog" over and over and when the birds tweet "bird" ad nausiem.
    There are animals that are named for the sounds they make in some languages, you know.


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    Well there's a problem with that. Imagine a Staraptor flying in making a hawk cry, then Pidgeot flies in with it's cry sounding like "BRR BRR BREE"
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    Having the digital cries in the anime would be weird. More animalistic sounds would be fine by me (though some smaller Pokemon could still say their name).

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    My first thought was someone needs to catch a Kricketune

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    The Dik Dik says hi. They make a sound pretty similar to their name (some think it sounds like zik zik).

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    Why couldn't the same idea be said for Pokemon? Humans thought of the Pokemon names by their cries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dman_dustin View Post
    Basically if all Pokémon had were screeches and grunts, they could NEVER be able to talk like a human.

    Why do think a dog or a cat, hasn't straight out mimicked a word by a human. I don't think its do to lack of intelligence (but perhaps a part of it) but it's mostly because they only imitate so many sounds with their "vocal cords."



    Almost all animals except humans rely solely on instinct.

    If you actually looked at what humans are outside of the other animal kingdom, you realize that humans are the only animals that they have such advanced language skills. And we also have what, cognitive thinking. Sure there are some bright animals out there.

    But they lack what humans do.

    All Pokémon for the most part, are like humans but a different species.

    Like let's say that humans are the most intelligent of the primates, it's why we can talk, it's why our language has grammar, syntax, and nuances that we can understand that no other primate or other animal for that matter can comprehend.

    Pokémon are the equivalent of the other top species.

    Like Pikachu being a top rodent, that if they tried really hard could speak human language.
    Haha, bloody good argument there, *applause.

    However, I know the Pokedex says pokemon are a certain species of animal, but Ive never really paid attention to that (especially now when ones like Torterra are 'continents') and instead believed Pokemon are not at the top of any chain.

    And since they arent atop a hierarchy of intelligent animals, I just believe it would be natural for them not to speak!




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    Another thing I want to say is, if they used their cries we wouldn't get cute Pokemon plushies that say their name when you squeeze them or detect your voice. Who would want to hug a Pikachu plush that makes it's in-game cry when squeezed? I wouldn't buy that Emolga plush I had if all it did was make it's cry when I talked to it, I could do that with my Pokemon Black 2 pokedex.
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    I agree with the fact that pokemon shouldn't talk. It would make the anime weird. As for using cries, i guess it could work. A few legendaries, like Palkia, rayquaza etc., roar instead. I just don't think it would work. Take Emboar for instance, instead of going Em Embaor it would make it's cry, which sounds like a cross between a pig and a fart. I'm serious! Go check it if you like. It just wouldn't have the same affect.

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    If the pokemon used their game voices in the show it would sound weird. And it would take a while to get used to the robotic like pokemon voices. Because in the games the pokemon sound like robots a little.
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    I vote against - the names sound better for the anime, and the cries sound better for the games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Blockhead View Post
    I always imagined something: what if instead of having Pokemon say their names, they actually have the cries used in the games? There would be slight alterations so it sounds authentic, but how would the series look if it was like that?
    In the game's dialog, Pokemon say their names. Voice synthesis was hard on the old Gameboy, so the developers used simplified sound FX for the cries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacman000 View Post
    In the game's dialog, Pokemon say their names.
    So Jigglypuff's name is Pu, Articuno's name is Gyaoo and Audino's name is Brrrm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spin Attaxx View Post
    So Jigglypuff's name is Pu, Articuno's name is Gyaoo and Audino's name is Brrrm?
    I think the most of Pokemon's dialog is a transliteration rather than a translation. Jiggilypuff's name is Purin in Japan; I imagine it's just repeating the first syllable of it's name. Audino's Japanese name contains a "br" sound. Clefairy says "Pi pippippi!" I don't know about Articuno; I haven't found a transliteration of it's name. Of course I'm not entirely sure; this is just my view of what happened.
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    Articuno's Japanese name is Freezer. Creative, I know.

    Also, I'd think that if Pokémon are meant to say their names in dialogue, then Nintendo would translate that, not transliterate.
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    That would sound incredibly awkward.

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    I just saw this vid showing all the cries of the Pokémon in Stadium 2, and they (mostly) did a good job of making their in game cries sound real.
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