Club Double Trouble (a double battling community)

[Fire Hero]

I'd say Trick Room and the goodstuffs. Goodstuffs because they're... good. Tyranitar, Metagross, Salamence, CRESSELIA are always hard to counter and beat, especially for those who try to think outside the box and don't use goodstuffs xD
Trick Room because my only way to deal with it is to Taunt the Trick Room user. Once they get it set up, it becomes a pain since my team is all about speed and striking fast.

[joej m]

i can't say i hate a specific type of team... but if there is one it is a good rain team. not a rain team with pokemon like:
toxicroak, ludicolo, politoed, kingdra, zapdos/thunderus, tornadus/dragonite/cresselia. you dont know how many times i have seen teams that look exactly like this. If they have some creative tactics, then they become a bit more challenging... but i have seen that team above at lead 100 times in my life and they are getting way to easy to beat. ._.
dealing with trick room isn't that hard actually. if you have some bulky and mildly slow pokemon it is pretty easy to deal with them. amoonguss can completely stop people from wanting to set up trick room. also, having trick room on your own team can counter it. just reverse the trick room. taunt also works too.

[trident20]

trident has been doing more singles recently. he only just started making teams for doubles other than the once he made a LONG time ago.
anyway anyone have any topic ideas?

i used to play doubles like last year, then i played singles which i still think are the most fun.
now i play both,

trickroom is awesome
i get to use things like scizor and marowak which is deadly

[KuzKan]

Well... since the mono region will start later i guess ill still enter xD
I have a friend that will probably enter the club btw ^^ he is a pretty cool guy

about the topic... maybe what gives me more trouble are not the teams themselves but the players... any team can be countered pretty easily if you know how to play an have the right pokemons, so even if someone who doesnt know how to play well brings a champion's team it doesnt really matter i guess.
So after all... yeah... my problem arent the oposing teams but the opponents xD (if it makes sense lol)

[Fire Hero]

Well... since the mono region will start later i guess ill still enter xD
I have a friend that will probably enter the club btw ^^ he is a pretty cool guy

about the topic... maybe what gives me more trouble are not the teams themselves but the players... any team can be countered pretty easily if you know how to play an have the right pokemons, so even if someone who doesnt know how to play well brings a champion's team it doesnt really matter i guess.
So after all... yeah... my problem arent the oposing teams but the opponents xD (if it makes sense lol)

I agree to some point.

Take the example of the goodstuffs. This is why the leading teams are goodstuffs: if you're not an awesome battler and use stuff like Butterfree and Maractus you lose 100% of the time. But if you're still not that good and use Tyranitar and Zapdos, you will win sometimes, even though your opponent is better.

That's the sole reason I hate the goodstuffs. They win because they pick the strongest there is, no strategy, no skill. They win out of luck or simply because their Pokémon are in fact the strongest possible. A bad player's Cresselia will not be OHKOed easily, no matter what. He may be the worst player ever, but if Cresselia is righty EV'd, it'll be a pain anyway.

[LordVader2719]

I agree to some point.

Take the example of the goodstuffs. This is why the leading teams are goodstuffs: if you're not an awesome battler and use stuff like Butterfree and Maractus you lose 100% of the time. But if you're still not that good and use Tyranitar and Zapdos, you will win sometimes, even though your opponent is better.

That's the sole reason I hate the goodstuffs. They win because they pick the strongest there is, no strategy, no skill. They win out of luck or simply because their Pokémon are in fact the strongest possible. A bad player's Cresselia will not be OHKOed easily, no matter what. He may be the worst player ever, but if Cresselia is righty EV'd, it'll be a pain anyway.

Actually, Butterfree can be quite useful. With Tinted Lens, its Sleep Powder has perfect accuracy, and with the proper team support, it can, and will, put both of your Pokémon to sleep. I've gone up against it a few times, and it isn't pleasant.

There is strategy in goodstuffs. Some might just use heavy hitters with little strategy, but the best goodstuffs teams have strategy. Mine, for instance, works very well against rain. I'd say more, but I don't need anyone counter teaming.

[Chingchar]

TOPIC! What is your facourite non-goodstuffs pokemon?
Mine is marowak with sing on a trick room team set up trick room and then send out marowak use sing then (while the other team mate supports marowak) set up with swords dance and finish 'em off with earthquake and double-edge

[joej m]

... this topic is kinda... weird... any pokemon could be used in a goodstuff team.
like tyranitar. it can be used in a good stuff team, or be used as a a sandstorm setter becoming almost a support pokemon.
and gastrodon can be used in a good stuff team, it could be used as a rain counter, and it can also be used as a set up sweeper, when paired with a surf user... and in a trick room team.

[trident20]

uh anyone have cool ideas for pokemon to use on a trickroom team?

something really creative

[joej m]

well i can't say anything unless know the rest of your team... so I can figure out the synergy of the team. unless you dont have anything yet ._.

[Fire Hero]

... this topic is kinda... weird... any pokemon could be used in a goodstuff team.
like tyranitar. it can be used in a good stuff team, or be used as a a sandstorm setter becoming almost a support pokemon.
and gastrodon can be used in a good stuff team, it could be used as a rain counter, and it can also be used as a set up sweeper, when paired with a surf user... and in a trick room team.

I think he meant that exactly. Favorite Pokémon not used in goodstuffs. So for Tyranitar, you could use the "support Pokémon" alternative as your argument.

Anyway, my favorite has to be Typhlosion. I'm proud I could make a team around it since it's my favorite Pokémon. And it never let me down ^^

[trident20]

all i meant was what are some good slow creative pokemon for trickroom.

i thought of marowak, and maybe registeel

registeel can abuse dynamic punch and zap canon under gravity. kinda cool

[CrystalNinetales]

all i meant was what are some good slow creative pokemon for trickroom.

i thought of marowak, and maybe registeel

registeel can abuse dynamic punch and zap canon under gravity. kinda cool

a beast under tr is Cranados's evo..

anyhow gl to all you tommorow, i will crush you into the dust..xD

[joej m]

good luck everyone going to regionals! i can't go... like always >.< my parents dont think going somewhere to play a video game is worth it, but once i can drive imma going to them xDDD

[trident20]

oh i dont play regionals and stuff

[KuzKan]

So i was about to test my tean on pokemon showown and it wont let me battle because "Sableye has moves incompatible with its DW ability"
as far as i know fake out, will-o-wisp, sucker punch and recover can be learn in Gen5 normally through breeding and move tutors...
does anyone knows whats wrong?

[zozo]

So i was about to test my tean on pokemon showown and it wont let me battle because "Sableye has moves incompatible with its DW ability"
as far as i know fake out, will-o-wisp, sucker punch and recover can be learn in Gen5 normally through breeding and move tutors...
does anyone knows whats wrong?

The problem is, I believe, that it can't have both Recover and Sucker punch at the same time. It can get Sucker Punch from only Cacnea/turne, Croagunk/Toxicroak, or Spinda, and none of those can learn Recover in any way. Conversely, Recover comes from Kadabra/Alakazam, Meditite/cham, and Elgyem/Beheeyem, and none of those ever have access to Sucker Punch.

[KuzKan]

The problem is, I believe, that it can't have both Recover and Sucker punch at the same time. It can get Sucker Punch from only Cacnea/turne, Croagunk/Toxicroak, or Spinda, and none of those can learn Recover in any way. Conversely, Recover comes from Kadabra/Alakazam, Meditite/cham, and Elgyem/Beheeyem, and none of those ever have access to Sucker Punch.

yeah but for example if i get him recover first and then teach sucker punch to another one as i did to the previous... i could breed both of them to get both moves right?
if not then i'll have to give it protect i guess meh, but im ure i've faced and seen som with those moves :/

[zozo]

yeah but for example if i get him recover first and then teach sucker punch to another one as i did to the previous... i could breed both of them to get both moves right?
if not then i'll have to give it protect i guess meh, but im ure i've faced and seen som with those moves :/

Nope. Only males can pass down moves, so to get both you'd have to have one male that has both Sucker Punch and Recover at the same time. If you have seen Sableyes running around with that set, then I'm afraid they were hacked. :/ Sorry.

[The Light Ruler]

The problem is, I believe, that it can't have both Recover and Sucker punch at the same time. It can get Sucker Punch from only Cacnea/turne, Croagunk/Toxicroak, or Spinda, and none of those can learn Recover in any way. Conversely, Recover comes from Kadabra/Alakazam, Meditite/cham, and Elgyem/Beheeyem, and none of those ever have access to Sucker Punch.

Actually, you can get both Recover and Sucker Punch onto a Sableye. To do so, you need to first breed a male Sableye in Gen 4 that knows Recover, and then teach it Sucker Punch via Move Tutor in Pt/HG/SS. Then, breed this Sableye with a female Prankster Sableye in Gen 5 to get Prankster Sableye that know both Sucker Punch and Recover.