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Thread: Will Cilan Stay for the next Saga? *SPOILERS*

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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    But DP was a 4 year series unlike BW. I don't see the point in bringing in another male sidekick who can cook and bring knowledge, and then he would leave when his gen is up, leaving us with a bunch of underdeveloped male sidekicks.
    We do that with the females.Or even better we get a male sidequester and a older maid as the third wheel

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberCubed View Post
    He could be more like Tracey then, as in not so much as a cook but still fill a similar type of role.

    Overall though you're right. The writers have dug themselves into a rut. Either they go back to the female co-star route of AG and DP or bring in another token female Gym leader and male companion. Its why they should just wrap up Ash's story and go with a real reboot next gen.
    I wouldn't mind if they wrapped up Ash's story, but that doesn't seem likely since he placed top 8 this region and will probably place top 4 next time, meaning he's gonna be staying for a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    We do that with the females.Or even better we get a male sidequester and a older maid as the third wheel
    But the females always get developed along with Ash. That's the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberCubed View Post
    He could be more like Tracey then, as in not so much as a cook but still fill a similar type of role.

    Overall though you're right. The writers have dug themselves into a rut. Either they go back to the female co-star route of AG and DP or bring in another token female Gym leader and male companion. Its why they should just wrap up Ash's story and go with a real reboot next gen.
    The writers don't "have" to do anything, they write this show for its merchandising solely. If you're really that bothered by Ash how many times do I have to say, maybe you should quit watching the show? They haven't dug ****, they do as they please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    I wouldn't mind if they wrapped up Ash's story, but that doesn't seem likely since he placed top 8 this region and will probably place top 4 next time, meaning he's gonna be staying for a long time.
    There is no pattern for the leagues now. He could go from doing terrible to winning the next one, nobody knows what goes on in the writers heads.

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    He has a higher chance than Iris, but I don't know. It seems mostly females of this show have to always be replaced. Maybe they'll keep Cilan around for 4 regions like Brock. I'm sure Cilan stans would be elated 4 life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatersGonnaHate View Post
    I wouldn't mind if they wrapped up Ash's story, but that doesn't seem likely since he placed top 8 this region and will probably place top 4 next time, meaning he's gonna be staying for a long time.



    But the females always get developed along with Ash. That's the difference.
    Yeah but they can change it so we have a female chef and a male sidekick

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    Very very high.

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    In my eyes, they're high. I believe he might stay for another region or two.
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    I still don't get why Ash can't get a maid as a sidekick, bonus points if she/he is massive with superpowers and supernatural hair.

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    Extremely low given that his dreams are already within reach. Unlike Ash's previous caretaker (Brock), Cilan doesn't have to travel with Ash for almost a decade since he knew from the start what he wanted to be and he worked toward that goal even before he met Ash. Iris has a higher chance of staying in the main cast due to her goal being far off.

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    Really high chance he hasnt gotten much into his Connosuier thing and i would like to see him work to be a S class also he doesnt have many pokemon really. also i would love for him to be the one to enter contest in the region if they bring them back

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    I suppose it would depend on what the potential replacements would be like
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingzx View Post
    Really high chance he hasnt gotten much into his Connosuier thing
    That's because he's so close to becoming an S-Class Connoisseur already that there's really no point in giving him tons of episodes that revolve around it. He's much more of an "entertaining" character who does random stuff because he can. Unlike Iris, he doesn't have to deal with the constant pressure that comes from not being close to one's goal.

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    None of them besides Ash should stay. When a sidekick stays too long their fans develop an entitlement complex.

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    They need to get rid of cilan asap

    He is so awkward in the dub, and his character makes no sense to the western audience, what in the hell were the writers thinking!

    Cilan only appeals to the japanese audience, simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    None of them besides Ash should stay. When a sidekick stays too long their fans develop an entitlement complex.
    Basically this although Dawn has quite a large fan base even though she stayed for one region

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoennDreamer View Post
    They need to get rid of cilan asap

    He is so awkward in the dub, and his character makes no sense to the western audience, what in the hell were the writers thinking!

    Cilan only appeals to the japanese audience, simple as that.
    and? what's your point? the Japanese audience is all that matters to the writers
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    Quote Originally Posted by AceDetective View Post
    and? what's your point? the Japanese audience is all that matters to the writers
    No, or else they would have never tried to get rid of brock back in kanto, plus they have removed basically every japanese element the show originally had to give the show a broader appeal.
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    I'd like to see Ash traveling with the 6th gen male protagonist and sort of teach him the ropes and maybe they each partake in gym challenges and have Ash playing a true teacher role to this kid (he di the same to May & Dawn but he wasn't involved in contests so having him focus on teaching his new friend how to do gyms would really cement their role in the show) whilst the girl companion is an in-game character (maybe the female protag? not necessarily a gym leader) with a more focused Brock/Cilan-like goal...

    I don't think it's likely knowing this show's idea of development for Ash, but I'd prefer it over Cilan sticking around, just to mess with the formula a little bit. As much as Best Wishes has changed many things, the group dynamics are still the same: the other male in the group is pretty superfluous to the storyline and is only around for knowledge, entertainment & sticking to the "trio" formula the show has going on. Unless his role is stepped up and he's given some importance, I'll remain indifferent to Cilan sticking around even though I know it's pretty likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoennDreamer View Post
    No, or else they would have never tried to get rid of brock back in kanto, plus they have removed basically every japanese element the show originally had to give the show a broader appeal.
    *Looks at Piplup's popularity* Yeah I'm pretty sure the Japanese audience are still the writers' first priority. They obviously care about the fans abroad too, but...
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