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    Hey so did you guys hear that smogon are suspecting landy i then keldeo! i'm alive btw

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    Both? That is really great new for other landy T. Both Keldeo's going bye bye?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EZ Target? View Post
    Hey so did you guys hear that smogon are suspecting landy i then keldeo! i'm alive btw
    I think they are both strong threats to consider when team building, but landorus - I's move pool/power is just to weak to KO certain pokes in OU, so even with an RP it needs a lot of team synergy to weaken pokemon such as latios/as, rotom-w and specially defensive mixed walls(say swampert or jellicent) or special walls (like cress and chansey/blissey)

    Keldeo as a scarf in rain is pretty tough, he can easily be the rain mon on the team (if you pardon the pun!), as it gets double stab on those water moves and is faster than everything meta that is not a scarf lati@s (although you might see things like scarf jolteon or starmie or tornadus-I), and can 2hko almost anything that isn't a special wall, even resistances take too much to switch in (if something like latias has taken a hit earlier for maybe 20%, it doesn't want to come in on rocks and take 2 hydro pumps unless is a bulkier variant) with water moves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EZ Target? View Post
    Hey so did you guys hear that smogon are suspecting landy i then keldeo! i'm alive btw
    Didn't Keldeo already have a suspect test, or was that just PO?? Screw gen 5 anyway, gen 6 is coming

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    Smgono suspected keldeo quite some time ago Hawk, yes. PO never have. The chances are, due to releases and bans since then, the meta has shifted enough to be more in keldeo's favor, even with tornadus-t gone, rain seems just as prevalent as ever, and with sand being a bit more poplar, so is scarf keldeo as it works both on and against sand teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicmonkey View Post
    Smgono suspected keldeo quite some time ago Hawk, yes. PO never have. The chances are, due to releases and bans since then, the meta has shifted enough to be more in keldeo's favor, even with tornadus-t gone, rain seems just as prevalent as ever, and with sand being a bit more poplar, so is scarf keldeo as it works both on and against sand teams.
    The only release/ban since then that I remember was Tornadus-T which was suspected at the same time, and maybe Deoxys-D (can't remember exact timing). The meta has barely changed since then (Deo-D HO lead being replaced with Custap Forry/Skarm) and Keldeo IMO is just as prominent as it was 3 months ago.

    Keldeo is actually one of the few pokes that can actually Counter (albeit only once and without running something built to counter it, ie Ice Fang Gyara) Landorus-I after a Rock Polish if you send it in right after Landy comes in. Keldeo is bulky enough to take a Modest Sheer Force Life Orb Earth Power (IIRC) and hit back with HP Ice or STAB water move

    This test is a bit pointless IMO, and it looks like Smogon just want to return the meta to BW1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prohawk View Post
    The only release/ban since then that I remember was Tornadus-T which was suspected at the same time, and maybe Deoxys-D (can't remember exact timing). The meta has barely changed since then (Deo-D HO lead being replaced with Custap Forry/Skarm) and Keldeo IMO is just as prominent as it was 3 months ago.

    Keldeo is actually one of the few pokes that can actually Counter (albeit only once and without running something built to counter it, ie Ice Fang Gyara) Landorus-I after a Rock Polish if you send it in right after Landy comes in. Keldeo is bulky enough to take a Modest Sheer Force Life Orb Earth Power (IIRC) and hit back with HP Ice or STAB water move

    This test is a bit pointless IMO, and it looks like Smogon just want to return the meta to BW1
    Keldeo is blessed with just enough bulk to take many hits. It can take a +2 e speed from adamant life orb lucario, which hits it for around 80-85% (does not KO after 1 spikes/rocks twice)

    Deo-D HO was better than custap skarm HO and always will be, regardless of what these damn hipsters think, because rocky helmet t wave Deo-D got just as much hazards up and often dropped a para/rocky helmet damage to spread more pain. And its more reliable for 2 layers (unless skarm is against an idiot who hits it for 100% turn 1, as opposed to the strong play to break sturdy (ideally with a u turn) and then hitting it for the big super effective damage)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicmonkey View Post
    Keldeo is blessed with just enough bulk to take many hits. It can take a +2 e speed from adamant life orb lucario, which hits it for around 80-85% (does not KO after 1 spikes/rocks twice)

    Deo-D HO was better than custap skarm HO and always will be, regardless of what these damn hipsters think, because rocky helmet t wave Deo-D got just as much hazards up and often dropped a para/rocky helmet damage to spread more pain. And its more reliable for 2 layers (unless skarm is against an idiot who hits it for 100% turn 1, as opposed to the strong play to break sturdy (ideally with a u turn) and then hitting it for the big super effective damage)
    Yes, but those threats were around last time Keldeo was tested, so methinks that the test will go down exactly the same.

    Hey it was you who said that Deo-D doesn't guarantee hazards. I even have the audio of you saying it

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    To be quite honest, I don't really see keldeo or landy as broken. Yes, they are both hard to stop, but so is a great deal of stuff in OU if you don't have the right counters. This is just smogon testing "the next best thing".

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    I think Hawk said this earlier, but I really don't see the point in testing pokes when the metagame is about to take a huge shift anyway. Unless there is a huge problem like genesect.

    Speaking of gen six, if I had one prediction I would say that Chansey will take the biggest usage jump. Probably top 5. Possibly the top spot for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prohawk View Post
    Yes, but those threats were around last time Keldeo was tested, so methinks that the test will go down exactly the same.

    Hey it was you who said that Deo-D doesn't guarantee hazards. I even have the audio of you saying it
    neither does skarm.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheps View Post
    I think Hawk said this earlier, but I really don't see the point in testing pokes when the metagame is about to take a huge shift anyway. Unless there is a huge problem like genesect.

    Speaking of gen six, if I had one prediction I would say that Chansey will take the biggest usage jump. Probably top 5. Possibly the top spot for a while.
    Chansey probably wont get fairy type, so it still lacks resistances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheps View Post
    So fairy types are confirmed and the confirmed pokes to have it to my knowledge are

    Gardevour
    The jiggly puff line
    The blissey line
    The azumaril line
    Sylveon
    And most likely a few other new pokes will have it

    I don't know a lot about the type but Apperantly it is super effective against dragons. What killed tinker bell? Poison will probably be a weakness.

    Thoughts fellas? I have a feeling it will be a defensive type in the metagame. Since stall is dead.
    It is getting fairy type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAdmiral View Post
    To be quite honest, I don't really see keldeo or landy as broken. Yes, they are both hard to stop, but so is a great deal of stuff in OU if you don't have the right counters. This is just smogon testing "the next best thing".
    Eh, when they're retesting the same stuff then it just seems like a waste of time. I'd rather see Latios or Rachi get a test. Even though I reckon they'd stay OU, if they're going to test something, make it something new

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheps View Post
    I think Hawk said this earlier, but I really don't see the point in testing pokes when the metagame is about to take a huge shift anyway. Unless there is a huge problem like genesect.

    Speaking of gen six, if I had one prediction I would say that Chansey will take the biggest usage jump. Probably top 5. Possibly the top spot for a while.
    I think it's a bit early to make predictions about what will get used. We know next to nothing about the meta. The only important thing we know thus far is that Fairy is SE against Dragon (and slightly less important, Flying/Dark do not resist Fairy)

    Quote Originally Posted by Magicmonkey View Post
    neither does skarm.

    Chansey probably wont get fairy type, so it still lacks resistances.
    So your point is null

    Pretty sure Chansey line has been confirmed somewhere. I know it's not in the vid, but I'm pretty sure...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheps View Post
    It is getting fairy type.
    Even so, we know so little about it. It might actually hinder it more then help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicmonkey View Post
    Chansey probably wont get fairy type, so it still lacks resistances.
    Its not getting fairy type. Quoting self means nothing.

    confirmed lines were jigglypuff, marill and gardevoir (we don't even know if it hits the pre evos, and gallade almost certainly won't)
    Sylveon also confirmed.

    I noticed this addition to your post when you first posted, but Im not confrontational so did not point it out.

    Unless im missing something, and im normally up to date on news to within 24 hours, nothing has been confirmed on chansey/blissey.



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    Um leaving the guild/clan for something a bit more active. Had fun here and if you guys get more active I shall be back. <3 you (I shall still on PO channel)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZ Target? View Post
    Um leaving the guild/clan for something a bit more active. Had fun here and if you guys get more active I shall be back. <3 you (I shall still on PO channel)
    My spidey senses were tingling making me want to post. I now know why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venomous Woe View Post
    PO Username: Venomous Woe
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    Accepted
    Your name sounds familiar....maybe from BA iirc?





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    Yup, I was in BA. I still remember those days. Much fun was had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZ Target? View Post
    Um leaving the guild/clan for something a bit more active. Had fun here and if you guys get more active I shall be back. <3 you (I shall still on PO channel)
    The awkward moment when the least active member moans about inactivity.

    All the best bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZ Target? View Post
    Um leaving the guild/clan for something a bit more active. Had fun here and if you guys get more active I shall be back. <3 you (I shall still on PO channel)
    =[ byebye Spidy

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUES. View Post
    My spidey senses were tingling making me want to post. I now know why.
    BABY COME BACK.

    Also, sorry about the extended absence on the forums..Im job hunting especially now that my gf and I are hoping to move into our own place soon
    Oh yea, that sounds like a great idea...

    Quote Originally Posted by Venomous Woe View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAdmiral View Post
    The awkward moment when the least active member moans about inactivity.

    All the best bro.
    I don't remember moaning about activity...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZ Target? View Post
    Um leaving the guild/clan for something a bit more active. Had fun here and if you guys get more active I shall be back. <3 you (I shall still on PO channel)
    Burn the Witch!
    Quote Originally Posted by BLUES. View Post
    My spidey senses were tingling making me want to post. I now know why.
    BABY COME BACK.

    Also, sorry about the extended absence on the forums..Im job hunting especially now that my gf and I are hoping to move into our own place soon
    Yay for you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Venomous Woe View Post
    PO Username: Venomous Woe
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    Sup Woemeister, hawk has probably cept'd you by now, and updated the OP with everything up to date. Totally happened.
    Quote Originally Posted by Prohawk View Post
    =[ byebye Spidy



    Oh yea, that sounds like a great idea...



    Hello hello =]



    I don't remember moaning about activity...
    you are not the least active im afraid. Talk to Mankey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicmonkey View Post

    Sup Woemeister
    Woemeister? I hope this doesn't become a thing. :P

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    Hey at least I didn't call you a woeman.

    Although you see bitter, why I'd say that comment had a hint of venom in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicmonkey View Post
    Hey at least I didn't call you a woeman.

    Although you see bitter, why I'd say that comment had a hint of venom in it.
    Touche! :P

    And any venom in my post was playful, I assure you.

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