Community POTW #103

[pika250]

Swords Dance and Superpower effectively cancel out. Use Brick Break if you don't want the Attack drop from Superpower, or if you hate screens. Obviously the ability used depends on what weather you use: Swift Swim (to double your speed) on a Rain team (Rain also takes away that Fire weakness of yours), Snow Cloak (to boost evasion) on a Hail team.

[sbktdreed]

Set: never use aerial ace. Dive can let foes set up. Use aqua jet over this. Always go super power over brick break, unless you really hate dual screens.
Counters: ferrothorn takes a beating from super power. Forretress can survive, but it never really uses overcoat.

I understand Aqua Jet; Speed priority over power. I stated Aerial Ace as counter against Fighting-types. I stated Ferrothorn because of high defense and Iron Barbs. Overcoat Forretress can protect the effects from Hail.

[Zachmac]

I don't care getingg an infraction the truth needs to be told.

You know, you could potentially tell the truth and not get an infraction.

You see, there is this simple concept called manners, and it's probably best that you try and use them.

I understand Aqua Jet; Speed priority over power. I stated Aerial Ace as counter against Fighting-types. I stated Ferrothorn because of high defense and Iron Barbs. Overcoat Forretress can protect the effects from Hail.

...Though I'll have to admit, Ilan is correct.

Most Beartic will probably carry Super Power, so countering it with Ferrothorn usually won't be the best plan. Also, Aerial Ace is unneeded, since when super effective, it only reaches 120 power. That's a lot, but Icicle Crash will do a little bit more, thanks to STAB, so that's not much of a solution.

Most people prefer sturdy on Ferrothorn, since it's immune to sandstorm damage anyway, and it protects it from a surprise fire attack so it can rapid spin or set up entry hazards. Even if it works, I don't like the idea of using it to counter things, since it's a much better supporter then wall.

Good users of Beartic will be using it with Rain Dance support most of the time, since usually in hail, you'll want a fast, specially based pokemon, to take advantage of Blizzard. In fact, 100% accurate blizzard is hail's only real niche over sandstorm. Overcoat to handle it alone is not really what you want. And if you counter it's rain sets, you'll probably counter it's hail sets as well. Beartic can't stall very well, so the HP loss from hail will be minimal. Snow Cloak is fine if not play Smogon I guess, but Frosslass is better at that thanks to it's fighting immunity, higher speed, and a decently powerful Blizzard.

Anyway, as far as counters go, I'd say Skarmory and Jellicent are the most reliable.
Jellicent will-o-wisp to cripple it, and resist it's STAB and coverage both.
252Atk Choice Band Beartic (+Atk) Icicle Crash vs 252HP/252Def Leftovers Sturdy Skarmory (+Def): 35% - 41% (117 - 138 HP). Guaranteed 3HKO.

[Soperman]

Beartic joins this big group of pokemon from the fifth generation that fit in nicely to my conspiracy theory that Gamefreak is reusing old pokemon.
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Even similar stats and overall movepool.
Anyway, Beartic has been blessed with good Attack and decent Bulk. Unfortunately, it has some of the worst Defensive typing in the game, and absolutely horrendous Speed. It does get Swift Swim as an ability, but that's banned with Drizzle, and frankly there are better Swift Swimmers out there. Not only that, but his other ability, Snow Cloak, has been banned (I'm not sure if it's in general or just with Hail), rendering not one but both of his abilities useless. Maybe if he had a better movepool, he would be better. Unfortunately, he has about five usable moves, not including Swords Dance, to use. So overall, he's in a pretty bad position. Anyway, let's move on to his abilities and one-and-only set.

Snow Cloak: Raises evasion in Hail, but is banned in hail. So useless.
Swift Swim (DW): Doubles Speed in Rain, but banned with Drizzle, which is the best form of Rain. The only way you would really be able to use this is if you have him to counter other Rain teams (since you can have SS if the opponent has Drizzle). however, Beartic isn't exactly a good Rain counter, so I don't recommend it.

I'm a Big, Fat, Muscular Polar Bear.
-Icicle Crash
-Superpower/Stone Edge
-Swords Dance
-Shadow Claw/Stone Edge/Aqua Jet/Superpower
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs and Nature: Jolly (+Spd, -Atk)
4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Beartic's one and only set. Yay. Now, always choose Swift Swim over Snow Cloak, as in the higher tiers you can take advantage of other teams' Politoeds or Rain Dance teams. Icicle Crash is his best STAB, and has the chance to flinch the opponent. Superpower is great coverage, as is Stone Edge. Swords Dance is for the much-needed power. The last move slot is a toss-up between Shadow Claw, Aqua Jet, and Superpower or Stone Edge (based on whatever you didn't choose as his second attacking move). Shadow Claw adds some random coverage, while Aqua Jet works as priority for that last bit of health. EVs are to maximize sweeping potential, while the extra HP EV allows for one more switch into SR.

Partners
Anyone who can take out Fighting types or can take take those hits is Beartic's friend. He can't handle Fighting types at all. Fire and Rock types are also a problem. Thus, Starmie is a decent partner. Actually, he's great because he gets rid of Stealth Rocks, too. Metagross can also work if you're running Zen Headbutt, as is Lati@s.

Countering Beartic
Oh my god is this easy to do. Heatran is great, as it can survive most of it's hits (including Superpower if you're going physically Defensive). Conkledurr takes Beartic's hits and replies with Mach Punch or Drain Punch. Metagross is another counter. Any pokemon that resists Ice and Fighting or Rock, or isn't super-effectively weak to those types and has good bulk, can counter Beartic. He's a pokemon that Gamefreak made who's sole purpose seems to be to strengthen my conspiracy theory. There are just too many factors to let him do anything else effectively.

[ysmr97]

I Know We Are Winning, Just Please Bear With Us

Adament Nature 252 ATT 252 SP 4 HP
Ability: Swift Swim
Item: Damp Rock

-Rain Dance
-Icicle Crash/ Superpower
-Bulldoze (necessary for countering Heatran!!!)
-Aqua Jet/ Dive/ Stone Edge/ Night Slash/ Brick Break

[Zachmac]

I Know We Are Winning, Just Please Bear With Us

Adament Nature 252 ATT 252 SP 4 HP
Ability: Swift Swim
Item: Damp Rock

-Rain Dance
-Icicle Crash/ Superpower
-Bulldoze (necessary for countering Heatran!!!)
-Aqua Jet/ Dive/ Stone Edge/ Night Slash/ Brick Break

Always, always use Icicle Crash. Never anything else, and especially not the crippling super power(that should be slashed with Bulldoze).

Otherwise, what is your point in using an Ice Type as your swift swimmer? The only good thing about it's type is it's good offensive STAB, so take advantage of that.

[your boss]

Counters:

Revenge killing can work effectively, Sawk and Emboar to name a few.

Yeah everything's been covered so I couldn't think of anything but this. :/

[Blue Harvest]

SE Aerial Ace: 120 BP STAB Icicle Crash 127.5 BP except poliwrath no lower tier fighting pokemon resists ice so. give me ONE reason to use Aerial Ace. Dive it have a charge turn.. and even isn't that strong (not like if it have high BP it should be used.superpower 2HKOes ferrothorn which also is OU so you won't see beartic in OU anyway. Who the hell uses overcoat it's a terrible ability which is almost completely useless (cute charm and stall are more useless though.. but overcoat on a steel type is a bad idea..) in short you have no idea what you are posting I can see it in your EVs sets,counters and other options. no matter how many sets you will see or how many times everyone will tell you. you will keep making the same mistakes.

I don't care getingg an infraction the truth needs to be told.


Superpower and SD CAN be used on the same set since sometimes you really need it's power.. but I think swords dance doesn't fit except if it abuses swift swim because you can boost your offense ok.. but so much can outspeed and kill you..

Yeah, there is no reason to talk this way to another member who is only trying to help. I guarantee you that the writers of the POTW know what they're doing better than BOTH of you so you do not have to target people who are still new to competitive Pokemon. This thread is for posting sets and discussing them, not bashing and flaming others.

Infractions have already been handed out, any more of this and I'll start banning everything that moves. Not even the trees will survive.

[OceanicLanturn]

The puns are bear-ly any good
Beartic @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
Nature: Adamant / Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spe/4 HP
- Superpower
- Icicle Crash
- Stone Edge
- Aqua Jet / Sword Dance / Taunt

I've used Beartic on my NU rain team before, and let's just say that this thing is amazing in rain. It hits 436 Speed in rain with Jolly, 398 Speed with Adamant. (correct me if I'm wrong). Superpower breaks through steels and rocks and since Beartic can outspeed a lot of stuff in rain, it can be used to kill off weakened Pokemon. Icicle Crash is the STAB of choice, and it can break through grass types that may effectively hinder a rain team. Stone Edge covers flying type that run around naked in NU. Aqua Jet is a priority move that can kill off weakened stuff when rain is not on, or if the other side has a priority move, and it also gets a nifty power boost in rain. Sword Dance allows it to hit more truck-ish and Taunt shut downs wallz.

Partners
Beartic really hate Stealth Rock or any hazards in particular, so a spinner would go well with Beartic. Eviolite Wartotle is a decent partner, having good bulk and can set up Rain Dance. Beartic is also hampered by fighting types in general. Misdreavous is suitable, as it is immune to fighting attacks and can hamper the foe with a Will-o-Wisp. To abuse Beartic's power, one must exploit Swift Swim in NU. A speedy Rain Dancer (perferably with High Speed or Prankster) can quickly set up rain dance before the opponent uses Taunt.

Some other puns for usage

I'm losing my bearings
I can't bear tic-kles
Please bear (bare) with me
Those puns are so bear (bare)!

And a little cup one (in the case nayone wants to do a set on Cubchoo)

Cub... AH CHOO

yeah the puns are bearly any good...

[philzone]

Just found a decent counter to bearctic. Metang is quite bulky, and eviolite is good for tanking, and can switch into icicle crash and stone edge, and can retaliate with meteor mash.

[Rayofquazar]

Oh poor beartic... You poor dear thing... Just because Ursaring was introduced three generations ago, you are accused to be a copy, a clone of a classic. Nevertheless, let me clear one point... Regions in pokemon world are similar to regions in our real world. A bear in the polar region is a polar bear while there are also grizzly bears and black bears that thrive in other region. The evolution of every specie depends on various environmental elements that determine it's shape and abilities. This is why there are many kinds of spiders, butterflies and even human beings...

Back to the evaluation... Beartic is a pretty decent pokemon, it has a beastly attack that can destroy anything. Compared to ursaring, the latter has higher attack and guts, but beartic compensate that with a better coverage STAB move. Beartic also have better defenses although it's ice typing makes it difficult for it to take a lot of hits. Both have low speed, and this is the main issue for ursaring. Beartic on the other hand makes up for that with swift swim. The problem is that beartic is unlikely to set up rain and then proceed to sweep because it will take at least one hit and it will loose an important coverage move meaning that beartic needs to rely on another pokemon to set rain for it sacrificing one turn of rain and risking beartic switching in a super effective attack.

Using beartic effectively requires team support and top notch predictibility from the player because every status will ruin beartic and every attack will leave it's mark on it.
Beartic other ability is decent also but someone said it was banned so I guess it's banned!

Beartic's movepool is not that impressive. It has decent special attacks but are so waisted, and it's physical moves are somewhat limited! Icicle crash and superpower are it's main attacking option while moves like swords dance can be used to boost your power and night slash, shadow claw, stone edge, brick break and rock slide conclude the decent physical options beartic has access to!

Item wise, life orb or choice band are perfect on beartic since it will be switching in and out a lot. Keep your field hazard free and put screens up if possible. A healer is needed too cz a burn will mean the end to it! Rain is not a bad idea cz it will make beartic loose a key weakness to fire type attacks making them somewhat survivable!

All in all beartic is usable but needs loads of support to work properly and even then It will be hard for it to sweep entire teams at once!

[superyellowduck]

Snow Cloak doesn't really do much for Beartic whereas with Swift Swim, a doubled speed can turn this bear into a monster.

Ability: Swift Swim
Nature: Adamant / Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spe/4 HP
- Icicle Crash/Dive
- Brick Break/Superpower
- Stone Edge
- Night Slash/Swords Dance

Icicle Crash gives a decent stab, whereas Brick Break and Stone Edge generally cover its weaknesses. Dive makes Beartic avoid some hits and with Rain Dance in play, will get in boost in power. Superpower does decrease its stats afterwards although its power is certainly useful. Night Slash just gives more coverage and Swords Dance can be used to boost the attack stat.

Partner wise, a pokemon that can utilise Rain Dance is obviously needed. But Beartic hates Stealth Rock so a Rapid Spinner is also needed. Maybe Blastoise? Starmie can get rid of the fire and fighting types for him.

Counter wise, any Steel types would work well - especially Metagross as it will resist/have neutral damage for most of Beartic's attacks. Any revenge killers would work - Emboar specifically well.