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    would love to see charizard facre stoutland. "."

    let' see where they will head with Cheren appearing now. he will probably reccur over the curse of the saga.

    still hoping one if the main girls appear.
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    It is kind of obvious that she wont be connected to him because Bianca was starting at the same time as Trip & Ash.Cheren could of travelled the region 2 years ago & we are catching up with the events of
    BW2.Plus he is probably just appearing as a Gym Leader/Plasma Buster

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    I'm betting the girl picks Tepig, because of one scan that showcases a 'featured' pokemon, so yeah.. Tepig > Pignite > Beats Cheren easily.. -.-

    Anyway, is anybody noticing that now that we have titles that the 'umph'-factor for Episode N is dieing down like mad? xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locormus View Post
    I'm betting the girl picks Tepig, because of one scan that showcases a 'featured' pokemon, so yeah.. Tepig > Pignite > Beats Cheren easily.. -.-

    Anyway, is anybody noticing that now that we have titles that the 'umph'-factor for Episode N is dieing down like mad? xD
    The Pignite vs Herderier battle could be a good chance to show off Cheren's strength. I'm excited either way to see Cheren battle!

    and yes the 'umph' factor like U said is dieing a bit! But that's normal, just like it was with BW2. This first bunch of episodes should be good and interesting so people catch up on the story! But all depends where they are heading with the whole story! It will be interesting to see where they are headed and if Ash will have a goal here . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eneci View Post
    The Pignite vs Herderier battle could be a good chance to show off Cheren's strength. I'm excited either way to see Cheren battle!

    and yes the 'umph' factor like U said is dieing a bit! But that's normal, just like it was with BW2. This first bunch of episodes should be good and interesting so people catch up on the story! But all depends where they are heading with the whole story! It will be interesting to see where they are headed and if Ash will have a goal here . . .
    Nah, with BW2, people still believed it was going to be 50 episodes long and whatnot.. They fell for the stupid marketing ploy..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locormus View Post
    I'm betting the girl picks Tepig, because of one scan that showcases a 'featured' pokemon, so yeah.. Tepig > Pignite > Beats Cheren easily.. -.-

    Anyway, is anybody noticing that now that we have titles that the 'umph'-factor for Episode N is dieing down like mad? xD
    Wait are you saying said tepig will evolve in 2 episodes? God it must be such an embarassment for Ash to need 70 to evolve his :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    Wait are you saying said tepig will evolve in 2 episodes? God it must be such an embarassment for Ash to need 70 to evolve his :P
    Not to mention all the time it spent with suwama or whatever his name is
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    Hahahahahaahaha, they're introducing Cheren even after making Trip? That'd be like having Blue waltz on in after introducing Gary and building up that rivalry.

    Man, even the writers seem to want to troll Trip now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    Wait are you saying said tepig will evolve in 2 episodes? God it must be such an embarassment for Ash to need 70 to evolve his :P
    And for Oshawott, Snivy and Scraggy to not be evolved yet xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomspot555 View Post
    Hahahahahaahaha, they're introducing Cheren even after making Trip? That'd be like having Blue waltz on in after introducing Gary and building up that rivalry.

    Man, even the writers seem to want to troll Trip now.
    That's not the same. While Gary is obviously based on Blue, Trip isn't based on Cheren. They don't even look the same. And besides, Trip is a Pokemon trainer while Cheren is a gym leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IcySealeo View Post
    That's not the same. While Gary is obviously based on Blue, Trip isn't based on Cheren. They don't even look the same. And besides, Trip is a Pokemon trainer while Cheren is a gym leader.
    Please tell me your joking? Trip whole personality was based on Cheren... they each had a desire to become the strongest trainers in Unova, each didn't really respect Alder much till later on, and each held the belief that power was the only means of strength.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Please tell me your joking? Trip whole personality was based on Cheren... they each had a desire to become the strongest trainers in Unova, each didn't really respect Alder much till later on, and each held the belief that power was the only means of strength.
    Yet Cheren didn't behave like a douche around Hilbert/Hilda and Bianca.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Please tell me your joking? Trip whole personality was based on Cheren... they each had a desire to become the strongest trainers in Unova, each didn't really respect Alder much till later on, and each held the belief that power was the only means of strength.
    You'll be right if Cheren was introduce as Ash's rival, but now Cheren is a gym leader and he has a totally new personality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post
    Yet Cheren didn't behave like a douche around Hilbert/Hilda and Bianca.
    That's typical of all Ash's rivals...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joltik-Kid View Post
    Please tell me your joking? Trip whole personality was based on Cheren... they each had a desire to become the strongest trainers in Unova, each didn't really respect Alder much till later on, and each held the belief that power was the only means of strength.
    The story was based on him, the personality not really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    The story was based on him, the personality not really.
    Exactly this. Trip is a lot different then Cheren in terms of personality. We never saw Cheren take pictures with a camera did we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IcySealeo View Post
    That's not the same. While Gary is obviously based on Blue, Trip isn't based on Cheren. They don't even look the same. And besides, Trip is a Pokemon trainer while Cheren is a gym leader.
    I thought Blue was the girl and the Gary-like character was Green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AhTreyYou View Post
    Exactly this. Trip is a lot different then Cheren in terms of personality. We never saw Cheren take pictures with a camera did we?
    Taking pictures is a hobby not a personality trait. Bad example.
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    Why didn't Cheren appear before this? I mean, Trip was hardly like him aside from Alder but even that was loosely brought over and being friends with Bianca would've made for some good chemistry if anything. They clearly didn't know about his role in BW2.

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    Trip was just a desperate exclusive anime character who tried to be a pseudo-Cheren. I don't know if the anime writers are told about whatever Game Freak has in mind for the future ahead of time (which seems very likely) that told two years ago about Cheren's Gym Leader status, but Trip was a total waste of character space. I would've really liked if Cheren took over Trip's role (and completely destroyed Camoron's chances of coming out of nowhere) and became a friendly rival who could really bond with Ash while still having his Champion desires intact AND displaying well-developed battle skills that'd make Ash shudder in his ten-year old body. I drool at the thought about Cheren and Ash fighting the action-packed full battle in the league, but noooooooooooo, the rivals in this region are atrocious at best except for maybe Georgia.

    But now we'll have to face a young Bianca running around with an older Cheren, unless Bianca grows two years older and gains a few pounds in the span of one episode or more. That does not bode me well.
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    That concerns me the most. Bianca and Cheren. It seems very likely that we'll see both of them in the anime, but I wonder will they change Bianca's design. I know it's quite easy, but still......

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuraChannelerChris View Post

    But now we'll have to face a young Bianca running around with an older Cheren, unless Bianca grows two years older and gains a few pounds in the span of one episode or more. That does not bode me well.
    If anything she'd just change her outfit. She doesn't really look that much older between games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt0044 View Post
    Why didn't Cheren appear before this? I mean, Trip was hardly like him aside from Alder but even that was loosely brought over and being friends with Bianca would've made for some good chemistry if anything. They clearly didn't know about his role in BW2.
    Game freak said themselves they weren't sure orginally how they were gonna do it.

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    The anime writers went with what they had I guess. If you must know, this was during some interview about how they made black and white 2 right after they came out. Its also where I learned that Unna Appearantly directed black and white 2...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimKennedy View Post
    I thought Blue was the girl and the Gary-like character was Green.
    In english the guy is green and in japanese he is blue
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinyPokemon inc. View Post
    In english the guy is green and in japanese he is blue
    ....but i go into B&W2, and it tells me that the guy's name is "blue" when i fight The game counterpart of gary in the english version of the PWT.

    I think we've go a mix up of facts here...lol


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