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    So I've put about 5 hours so far into Pokemon White, and I hate to say it, but I think I find it a little boring... the designs for all the Pokemon at their basic stages seem too cutesy and it almost feels like a chore to go through every gym leader... am I doing something wrong? :/

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    So what made the other regions interesting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokemonsquared View Post
    So what made the other regions interesting?
    I think it was probably the Pokemon, which is directly related to the nostalgia factor of the older games, so I suppose I'll just have to give it some more time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost Mage View Post
    I think it was probably the Pokemon, which is directly related to the nostalgia factor of the older games, so I suppose I'll just have to give it some more time.
    there. u answered ur own question. get familiar with the new pokes and see all the places. frankly i dont think u have reached the good part of the story when u reach the league. its a poke game made by gf. its supposed to be good

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    That's why you have to make it more interesting yourself. Nickname your Pokemon. Envision yourself actually there and doing all the battling. Evolve th ePokemon you find too cutesy. Heck maybe even start over and do a Nuzlocke challenge. That will be anything but boring.

    But once you finish White, buy White 2. It's really cool to compare the older Unova with the more areas, different plotline and travel route, older Pokemon mixed in, and newer Unova.
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    Black and White boring? They were some of the most interesting games so far in the series for me.

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    Or just trade over the ones that you're suffering withdrawal from. That helped me and my Ambipom withdrawal.
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    Yeah, give you some time to assimilate these new creatures. You'll get use to them. Personally, I haven't played all the games, but I think the story in Black/White is strong. And when you play the sequels it's even more fun and strong! Black2/White2 gives you real nostalgia about Black/White!

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    I did, the game felt a bit too dumbed down in terms of things like regional design and difficulty, also I don't like the whole "reboot" feel because they removed a lot of features that made the game more interesting. Of course BW2 added some of their own, but not the same ones, so it doesn't quite feel the same.
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    Compared to other gens, I find Gen 5 a bit not really exciting. But I still like it.
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    I thought the storyline was incredible, surpassing that of all the others.

    The Gen 5 Pokemon get a lot of crap from genwunners and the like, and I kinda feel sorry for them. But while the Basic Pokemon may seem cute, they're evolved forms are intensly awesome! For example,: Axew -> Haxorus
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    This is all my personal opinion, but I tried Pokemon Black/White for about 45 minutes, and just put it down. Here are the reasons...

    1)The game babies you way too much! I understand that the developers wanted to make it easier for newer players to learn the game, but come on! I mean in the original Red/Blue/Yellow, there was very little that was taught to you, most of it you had to learn on your own, and honestly I found this more appealing to me. I actually felt like a Pokemon master doing it this way.

    2) The Pokemon look like something I would find in my 2-year old brother's coloring book. I mean even in most of the fully evolved for, most of them are to damn cuddly! I mean if I had to fight a double scoop ice cream cone, I would probably lose just from me laughing so hard. I mean I understand the beginning Pokemon being cute and all, but where are the monsters? I'm talking like Charizard, Feraligater, Salamence, those are the good ones, not some gears super glued together.

    3) And speaking of the older Pokemon, why didn't they put even a couple of them in this game?! Even if there were just maybe 10 older Pokemon, I would of been happy, but did they? No, this is what lost major appeal to me.

    4) I was also very disappointed that there wasn't even 1 new evolution! I loved it when 4th gen came out, and a lot of old Pokemon got some new evolutions! To me, that made the game a lot more fun, and made me crave it, with this, it just isn't there.


    In all, I got bored with this generation because to me, it didnt feel like Pokemon at all.

    Now Im not totally bashing this game, I will admit, I do like the new legendaries, quite a bit of the new music, but that is all that really appeals to me, but that is just my 2 cents
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpgfan1994 View Post
    2) The Pokemon look like something I would find in my 2-year old brother's coloring book.
    A 1-year-old could have designed Voltorb, and its evolution required all the creativity of a newborn.

    Quote Originally Posted by rpgfan1994 View Post
    I mean even in most of the fully evolved for, most of them are to damn cuddly! I mean if I had to fight a double scoop ice cream cone, I would probably lose just from me laughing so hard.
    I think I might feel similarly if I were forced to fight a pile of eggs with faces, or a living coconut tree, or a living rock with a face and muscular arms, or a pudgy ganguro girl.

    Quote Originally Posted by rpgfan1994 View Post
    I mean I understand the beginning Pokemon being cute and all, but where are the monsters? I'm talking like Charizard, Feraligater, Salamence, those are the good ones, not some gears super glued together.
    And I'm talking like Emboar, Samurott, Gigalith, Excadrill, Carracosta, Zoroark, Ferrothorn, Eelektross, Haxorus, Beartic, Druddigon, Bisharp, Braviary, and Hydreigon. Not some dopey mime or a pile of sludge or a living windchime.

    Quote Originally Posted by rpgfan1994 View Post
    3) And speaking of the older Pokemon, why didn't they put even a couple of them in this game?! Even if there were just maybe 10 older Pokemon, I would of been happy, but did they? No, this is what lost major appeal to me.
    Black and White were intended to be a "new beginning"; completely estranged from the previous regions for the sake of being a reintroduction. Unova is far away from Kanto/Johto/Hoenn/Sinnoh, so logically, one would expect that all of the Pokemon are completely different (which gives older players a whole new place to explore; a totally new experience. Which would have been an excellent idea, if most of the older players weren't poisoned by overblown nostalgia).

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    4) I was also very disappointed that there wasn't even 1 new evolution! I loved it when 4th gen came out, and a lot of old Pokemon got some new evolutions! To me, that made the game a lot more fun, and made me crave it, with this, it just isn't there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endolise View Post
    Black and White were intended to be a "new beginning"; completely estranged from the previous regions for the sake of being a reintroduction. Unova is far away from Kanto/Johto/Hoenn/Sinnoh, so logically, one would expect that all of the Pokemon are completely different (which gives older players a whole new place to explore; a totally new experience. Which would have been an excellent idea, if most of the older players weren't poisoned by overblown nostalgia).
    IMO that "new beginning" thing was a bad idea. Or at least a poorly executed one. Okay, you've got a bunch of new Pokemon, problem is that many of them strongly resemble past gen Pokemon to the point where one might consider them clones. It really defeats the purpose if the new Pokemon aren't very original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    IMO that "new beginning" thing was a bad idea. Or at least a poorly executed one. Okay, you've got a bunch of new Pokemon, problem is that many of them strongly resemble past gen Pokemon to the point where one might consider them clones. It really defeats the purpose if the new Pokemon aren't very original.
    This happens every generation though . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost Mage View Post
    So I've put about 5 hours so far into Pokemon White, and I hate to say it, but I think I find it a little boring... the designs for all the Pokemon at their basic stages seem too cutesy and it almost feels like a chore to go through every gym leader... am I doing something wrong? :/
    I will say that things for me did start a bit slowly at first but right after seeing that Team Plasma banner for a certain someone     Spoiler:- :
    I was certainly more interested to see what would happen next (Though I guess it's mostly because I wasn't expecting something as flashy as that banner).

    I will admit the gyms could have been a bit more interesting, but that's debatable, some will like and some wont. As for the pokemon being too cute in the beginning.....what little monster aren't "cute" when you're starting on adventure? Just like real life things get bigger and more intimidating as time goes on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ansem1013 View Post
    This happens every generation though . . .
    I think the point is that there's always old gen Pokemon and that Gen 5 was/is to be an actual new start with it's own set of Pokemon to really make it feel like a new fresh adventure that you would have to learn about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoniss View Post
    Man...I gotta say...I agree...B/W so far has been the worst gen for me...I mean its good graphics wise but...I just feel like theirs something wrong with it...I started playing Pokemon when it first came out back in 1998. I was 7 back then. And i'll admit. The games just don't have that charm that they had way back then. I tried really hard to play BW2 and...I just couldn't go through it. I made it to the 7th gym and just gave up.
    I kind of agree/disagree here, Gen 5 (Black/White) have as much charm if not more than Gen 1, though if only because there was much more than "Being the best, fight rival, 8 badges, beat the league" I felt that towards the end there was something bigger than that only for a nice little plot twist to make things better. Though B/W's post game was very lacking. And giving up at the 7th gym? Had I done something like that for previous generations I would be missing out like you're about to/already did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoniss View Post
    People are going to tell me its because i'm old but I really don't think age matters. I'm still a really big fan of pokemon, and I've been really trying to stay into it, I own almost every game and I'm getting back into cards and trying -and failing- at competitive battling...but...after 3rd gen...it just started going down.
    I don't think age matters either, Gen 3 didn't have much for me personally though there was a good amount of fun moments and plenty of exploring (dat reggie puzzle which I never got to solve since my copy of ruby went missing).

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoniss View Post
    I don't feel the pokemon have that charm anymore that they did back then. I don't know how to explain it I guess I just don't feel the love, emotion, and personality in these pokemon as I do the old ones.

    And this is where we draw the line....no love? Emotion? or personality? Bianca, while not the greatest fighter, relates with many people more than I've seen in a simple RPG. She's not perfect, and soon realizes just how tough the world is yet encounters someone as strong as you in order to really grow up and toughen herself up. And in the B2/W2 she's even an assistant for Juniper and truly realizing that there's something in the world that she can do. No love and emotion? Absolutely not! As for the love and emotion for the old games...they were simply fun...not much else, for me at least and I've been in this since I was 8. I didn't put too much thought or anything else, but still, even while growing up even since then I just wanted more than mindless fun, sometimes you need more than simplicity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoniss View Post
    The music isn't even as good as the old ones. Some of its good but... it'll NEVER beat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_5TVp1wSTU IMO. That song just SCREAMS epic battle.
    While Blue/Green's champion music is nice, as are the several official remixes of it, there ARE other songs in the Pokemon series that are just as epic/intense if not more especially when with the situations that accommodate them.

    Being this and this, though that second link is a spoiler since you haven't beaten the game yet...unless you actually have by now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoniss View Post
    I also, yes I liked the story in BW / BW2 but...I liked the simplicity of the first games. You were a 10 year old boy that was out to become a pokemon master and just happened to take down an evil origination, beat his rival and become the champion all the while catching all 151 -or more depending if your playing G/S/C- pokemon.
    While simplicity isn't a bad thing, you're kind of forgetting that the pokemon games, main ones/some spin offs, are RPGs/Role Playing games, and their staple is usually to throw some twists and turns. Also I've always disliked the whole "catch them all" gimmick which exactly is as it is. Though at least for B2/W2 you get actual rewards for filling a large amount or more of the Pokedex though even then only people who really want to use said rewards will go for them, I'm here for the overall experience. We've been battling and became the champion since day 1 and I loved how B/W broke that mold with something slightly different.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoniss View Post
    It was almost kinda annoying to have all these characters constantly talking to me, and before and after each gym I had to fight Rival of the week. It felt like they were shoving the side characters down our throats and saying "like them!" Its not that I don't like the characters I do its just...to much. I don't play pokemon for story I play it for gameplay. And because the rivals shown up so much it took away from the epicness they are supposed to be.
    They did show up a bit too much, though now in Hugh's case, you fought him as much as you fought Silver...which is too few times :U

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoniss View Post
    Every time Green shown up you knew "ohh its on". Or every time Silver shown up it was "lets see how much stronger you've gotten". They were tense, exciting, it was fun to blow your rival away. Here it just became repetitive fast.
    Not for me, I personally found both of them to be Jerk/bullies, not really Rivals, Green was a pushover and I always won every fight against him with ease, Silver was a bit different (especially his 2nd fight if you weren't ready).

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoniss View Post
    The last thing I gotta say that I do feel like this game babied you a lot. Not as bad as it did in FR/LG where your first rival battle, that was supposed to be your epic first battle mind you, kept getting interrupted by oak's tutorial. It wasn't that bad but...It really catered to new players. You don't know how many times I was mashing A saying "yah I get it." I didn't do that in the first 2 gens. I learned as a played. All games nowadays feel like they baby you along.
    That's more or less the developers being silly and not having the obvious skip option for veteran players. As for the rest I'm currently playing White 2 on challenge mode and it's really giving me a run for my money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoniss View Post
    Yah that's basically why I didn't like gen 5. It just was boring and I didn't really like the pokemon or the region as a whole. When I stopped playing my black 2 I actually started playing blue version again. I'm not trying to bash this game I understand people have different tasted in games, and there are always new players each gen. Like I said before I've REALLY been trying to like the new generations. I really have been. I always get excited when a new pokemon game is coming out. This is just how I feel, its my own opinion.

    I'll see ya later guys, i'll met you all in the past. -turns on game boy and goes to fight green again-
    Personally I think you should actually complete it before jumping ship, it would at least give you more ground for your thoughts, while personally being a veteran player myself, I've done 2 playthroughs of each game, 1 on black and white, and another on white 2 (Both normal and challenge mode).



    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoniss View Post
    I think this is my main reason as much as I hate to say it. I mean its a good game...but it won't be the classics. Just like with any franchise, sonic, Mario, Zelda they all have their classic fans and i'm just one of them.
    Oh I know some of these fans and while some are nice and reasonable, a lot of them are just downright disgusting with their attitudes towards other players/games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoniss View Post
    It's really just sad to see that the era of pokemon that I grew up with is now gone and won't ever return. My childhood is basically dead now...that's why i'm compelled to make a lets play of blue to show this new generation just exactly what it was like for us kids back in the day. Just letting them really get to see in depth what the first chapter of pokemon was.

    I feel like I should be saying you kids and your generation 5's and your fusion pokemanz and your enhanced graphics and your story lines;..
    What part of your childhood is dead exactly? What part of Pokemon has truly change? It's literally the same game with depth, maybe I'm just blind, maybe I'm not as fluent or detailed as most people, but I guess I'm not seeing what you're seeing. Is it just the simplicity of escaping certain parts of life to see one simple thing to forget about it? What am I not seeing that you and most other people are considering "dead"? Also if you're gonna make that LP, do it, but finish the game that you didn't finish if you're going to bring it up during your LP, so that you at least have an actual basis for any argument/discussion that you make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpgfan1994 View Post
    but where are the monsters? I'm talking like Charizard, Feraligater, Salamence, those are the good ones, not some gears super glued together.

    there are plenty of monsters : haxorus, golurk, krookadile, beartic (just to name a few). Of course, you do not see any of these in the beginning of the game, but i doubt you see salamence in route 1 of RSE. And about the first pokemon being too cutesy, all three of the "monsters" you listed started as little lizards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost Mage View Post
    So I've put about 5 hours so far into Pokemon White, and I hate to say it, but I think I find it a little boring... the designs for all the Pokemon at their basic stages seem too cutesy and it almost feels like a chore to go through every gym leader... am I doing something wrong? :/
    Nobody in here finds BW boring, at least the majority of players think that BW and B2W2 were the most innovating versions.

    Mabye you're getting boring about Pokemon... and not BW.

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    Endolise, Voltorb IS creative, it's creative for being uncreative *shot*. <---- ignore this if you want.

    Personally I find the 5th gen creative as much as Gen 1, if not better.


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    This thread is pointless.

    Don't like the game? Then go play something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearless123 View Post
    This thread is pointless.

    Don't like the game? Then go play something else.
    This, I'm not very found of some of the Pokemon in this Gen either, but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost Mage View Post
    So I've put about 5 hours so far into Pokemon White, and I hate to say it, but I think I find it a little boring... the designs for all the Pokemon at their basic stages seem too cutesy and it almost feels like a chore to go through every gym leader... am I doing something wrong? :/
    Too cutesy? What were you expecting from Pokemon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frost Mage View Post
    I think it was probably the Pokemon, which is directly related to the nostalgia factor of the older games, so I suppose I'll just have to give it some more time.
    Sounds like you should play something else. You aren't going to like Pokemon games at all if "too cute" is a deterent for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by rpgfan1994 View Post

    1)The game babies you way too much!
    No it doesn't. Most of the "babying" people complain about is completely optional. Yes, the game gives you a Lucky Egg, but no one is forcing you to use it. Don't like the fact that items are given or nurses can heal on routes? Then don't use them

    2) The Pokemon look like something I would find in my 2-year old brother's coloring book.
    You're lying.

    not some gears super glued together.


    3) And speaking of the older Pokemon, why didn't they put even a couple of them in this game?! Even if there were just maybe 10 older Pokemon, I would of been happy, but did they? No, this is what lost major appeal to me.
    Because they specifically promoted BW as not having old Pokemon until the post-game. Anyone who purchased this game could find that out easily. Complaining about one of the most promoted features of the game is dumb. If you didn't like this, don't buy the game or make preparations to get the same Pokemon you've used for 10+years into the game.

    4) I was also very disappointed that there wasn't even 1 new evolution! I loved it when 4th gen came out, and a lot of old Pokemon got some new evolutions! To me, that made the game a lot more fun, and made me crave it, with this, it just isn't there.
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    This generation totally stepped it down. Sure, there are some catchy tunes and amazing graphics, but it really comes down to, " Is this formula getting repeatitive?" I was introduced into Generation 4. It was one of the first videogames I've ever played. The graphics were amazing to 9 year old me, and to this day I still think they're amazing. Not only that, but the designs of the characters were great. I don't see the hype over Elesa. She really is not that "good looking" or "supermodelish" to me. Same thing with her in BW2. Some designs of both Pokemon and Humans were really dull in generation 5. I am really just not a big fan of the current generation, and I don't think I ever will be.

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    Awh, 5 hours is NOTHING. Black and White gain some serious momentum past Mistralton City, and become really hard to put down. Initially, I referred to a lot of the Pokemon as 'The new x' (Frillish-Tentacool, Palpitoad-Wooper, etc.) but by the end, I really liked a lot of them. At least finish the story in B/W, it'll make B2/W2 so much more enjoyable, in fact, I think they're much better paced and less cramped than their predecessors. And if you think BW is boring, play DP.
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    By which I mean DP is more boring.
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