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    This is a random thing but I wanted to know what your opinions are. When I was younger and The First movie came out, I saw Mew and thought it was a girl...growing up I still believe Mew is a girl XD Do any of you guys do that (If it looks girly it's a girl and if it looks masculine it's a boy)??? or am I the weird one? and What do you think about them in general, like how do you feel about there being Genderless pokemon?

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    Genderless Pokemon adversely affected me in BW, when I wanted to breed a Golett pre-E4 where Ditto isn't available. I was never an avid breeder, and so to my horror I realized that genderless Pokemon couldn't even breed with their own species. I don't understand the point of this restriction when eventually genderless Pokemon can still breed with Ditto.

    For non-legendary Pokemon, I find the GF's fickle-mindedness over which Pokemon should be genderless, single gender only, or available in either gender of different proportions to be mind-boggling. One moment they decide to stereotype machine/mineral-like Pokemon to be genderless, the next thing you know Gigalith can be male or female.

    For legendary Pokemon, I think gender could have been applied to most of them (except when it's concept-based to keep them genderless) without breaking the no-breeding rule. Heatran has gender, it didn't break the game, and it's probably not the first legendary Pokemon you'll expect to have gender, so why not?
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    I think it's kind of silly to have genderless pokemon...I never thought about the breeding part of it before..It just always bothered me that Mew especially is genderless... :/ I really want to know their reasoning behind genderless pokemon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PokeMasterCait View Post
    I think it's kind of silly to have genderless pokemon...I never thought about the breeding part of it before..It just always bothered me that Mew especially is genderless... :/ I really want to know their reasoning behind genderless pokemon...
    Yes, yo know, it's kind of silly to have genderless animals in the real world too. Ridiculous even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ver-mont View Post
    Yes, yo know, it's kind of silly to have genderless animals in the real world too. Ridiculous even.
    You better use the sarcasm tag.

    Though I believe in biology macro organisms are either male, female or hermaphrodite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PokeMasterCait View Post
    I think it's kind of silly to have genderless pokemon...I never thought about the breeding part of it before..It just always bothered me that Mew especially is genderless... :/ I really want to know their reasoning behind genderless pokemon...
    It's to stop people from breeding legendaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AquaWarrior View Post
    It's to stop people from breeding legendaries.
    Oh... I can't believe I never thought of that. It makes sense...
    I always kind of assumed that it was so that you weren't almost forced to have a Pokemon of a gender you didn't think it should be. A good example of that for me would be Mew. I always think that Mew should be a girl, I don't know why, I just do.

    That's how I always thought of it, but I think that they don't want you breeding legendaries makes a lot more sense. xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hidden Power View Post
    Genderless Pokemon adversely affected me in BW, when I wanted to breed a Golett pre-E4 where Ditto isn't available. I was never an avid breeder, and so to my horror I realized that genderless Pokemon couldn't even breed with their own species. I don't understand the point of this restriction when eventually genderless Pokemon can still breed with Ditto.

    For non-legendary Pokemon, I find the GF's fickle-mindedness over which Pokemon should be genderless, single gender only, or available in either gender of different proportions to be mind-boggling. One moment they decide to stereotype machine/mineral-like Pokemon to be genderless, the next thing you know Gigalith can be male or female.

    For legendary Pokemon, I think gender could have been applied to most of them (except when it's concept-based to keep them genderless) without breaking the no-breeding rule. Heatran has gender, it didn't break the game, and it's probably not the first legendary Pokemon you'll expect to have gender, so why not?
    You just love to critisize GF, don't you?
    There's quite a few legendary Pokemon with genders, too. Lati@s, Cresselia, Heatran...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hidden Power View Post
    Genderless Pokemon adversely affected me in BW, when I wanted to breed a Golett pre-E4 where Ditto isn't available. I was never an avid breeder, and so to my horror I realized that genderless Pokemon couldn't even breed with their own species. I don't understand the point of this restriction when eventually genderless Pokemon can still breed with Ditto.

    For non-legendary Pokemon, I find the GF's fickle-mindedness over which Pokemon should be genderless, single gender only, or available in either gender of different proportions to be mind-boggling. One moment they decide to stereotype machine/mineral-like Pokemon to be genderless, the next thing you know Gigalith can be male or female.

    For legendary Pokemon, I think gender could have been applied to most of them (except when it's concept-based to keep them genderless) without breaking the no-breeding rule. Heatran has gender, it didn't break the game, and it's probably not the first legendary Pokemon you'll expect to have gender, so why not?
    I agree with you that it is a bit (or a lot) frustrating to know that non-legendary genderless Pokemons can't breed with others of the same specie (Voltorb and Voltorb, for example). Anyways, Ditto can be found in every version launched by now (except Collosseum and XD).

    Like you, I think also that some legendaries could have gender (Groudon, Kyogre, for example), but not all of them (Jirachi and Deoxys, for example).

    Quote Originally Posted by PokeMasterCait View Post
    I think it's kind of silly to have genderless pokemon...I never thought about the breeding part of it before..It just always bothered me that Mew especially is genderless... :/ I really want to know their reasoning behind genderless pokemon...
    No, it is not silly to have genderless Pokemons. Genderless makes sense if the Pokemon is based on an object (Magnemite, Voltorb, Porygon, for example). You can't classify them as male or female because they don't have genitalias.

    If the Pokemon doesn't have penis or vagina, it cannot be male or female.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystical Jackal View Post
    No, it is not silly to have genderless Pokemons. Genderless makes sense if the Pokemon is based on an object (Magnemite, Voltorb, Porygon, for example). You can't classify them as male or female because they don't have genitalias.

    If the Pokemon doesn't have penis or vagina, it cannot be male or female.
    Tell that to the supporters of the pokémon-use-celebi-and-jirachi-to-reproduce theory supporters XD

    Though in seriousness, I can see why magnemite and voltorb are genderless, being seemingly robots, the beldum line may or may not be robotic but are obviously based on non-animals and could reproduce asexually, and ditto are apparently hermaphrodites, but I do have to wonder about things like staryu. How exactly do those reproduce in the wild?

    Come to think of it, I am starting to wonder if that statement actually makes sense. Banettes are spirits possessing stuffed toys, which obviously don't have genitals, but they can have genders. Gastly don't even have bodies and are just made of gas, but they can have genders and can breed. And koffing don't look any more organic than solrock, yet only koffing can be male and female and actually breed. It's quite odd, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octoboy View Post
    but I do have to wonder about things like staryu. How exactly do those reproduce in the wild?
    IRL, starfish can reproduce by regeneration, if you were to cut a starfish in half, instead of dying both halves would grow into two new starfish. I imagine it's the same way with Staryu and Starmie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octoboy View Post
    Tell that to the supporters of the pokémon-use-celebi-and-jirachi-to-reproduce theory supporters XD

    Though in seriousness, I can see why magnemite and voltorb are genderless, being seemingly robots, the beldum line may or may not be robotic but are obviously based on non-animals and could reproduce asexually, and ditto are apparently hermaphrodites, but I do have to wonder about things like staryu. How exactly do those reproduce in the wild?

    Come to think of it, I am starting to wonder if that statement actually makes sense. Banettes are spirits possessing stuffed toys, which obviously don't have genitals, but they can have genders. Gastly don't even have bodies and are just made of gas, but they can have genders and can breed. And koffing don't look any more organic than solrock, yet only koffing can be male and female and actually breed. It's quite odd, really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GONZOglasses View Post
    I think a feminine Pokemon should only be a female. Masculine Pokemon should only be male.
    No, this thing to think that a creature should be only male because it looks like male doesn't make sense. Female and males exist, though it seems odd in some cases. For example, the male ladybug from the movie A Bug's Life, he gets pi$$ed off often when the other insects thinks that he is a girl just because all the ladybugs look like female. And in the move 1 of Sherk, when the donkey notice that the dragon was actually female, he gets a bit surprised about that (and the public too), he probably didn't imagine that a female dragon could be as scary and ferocious as a male dragon.


    Quote Originally Posted by Moonrox View Post
    The real answer to this question:
    Pokemon don't breed like that, remember. A mysterious man comes and leaves an egg. Pokemon don't have sex organs. The man just doesn't give eggs to Pokemon if they're not compatible (egg groups).
    Oh, do you really think members will accept this as answer?

    If they didn't have sex organs, how would they pee? And poo? And don't dare to say that they don't do that. If they eat berries and drink water, the urine/faeces must come out by some way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystical Jackal View Post
    If they didn't have sex organs, how would they pee? And poo? And don't dare to say that they don't do that. If they eat berries and drink water, the urine/faeces must come out by some way.
    Well if they all lay eggs, I guess they have avian anatomy, so their waste looks like... well, bird poop. Unless the mammals are just all egg-laying mammals in which case, the same way echidnas and platypi urinate/defecate.

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    It's annoying how Machoke can be female...

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    Your cultural assumptions about gender are going to be different from Gamefreak's, and even from your grandparents' and great-grandparents' generation. It was only about a hundred years ago, you know, that pink was considered a highly masculine color (because it had a red tint like blood) and blue was a feminine-coded color. Don't worry about it.

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    I never really understood why Meloetta is genderless... Makes no sense to me
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    I don't understand why Metagross is genderless, he looks like a real manly man! :X



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    Quote Originally Posted by cantavanda View Post
    I don't understand why Metagross is genderless, he looks like a real manly man! :X
    Are you going to look for its genitals?
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    I think Tauros should be male only. If I'm wrong, sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersmew View Post
    I think Tauros should be male only. If I'm wrong, sorry
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    The inanimate objects being genderless makes sense. But the fact that they can only breed with Ditto is beyond me.
    I just want Heatran to be genderless, that's all.
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    Oh yes. I've done it. xD I always thought of Lugia as a girl, even thought I'd see The Power of One, it just still seemed like a girl. xD

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    I keep in mind the anime =/= game rule. So for genderless Pokémon like Legendaries, I just go by what I think they look like. I consider Mew to be pretty girly, but it's very possible the Mew from the eighth movie is an entirely different Mew--even then, I consider the Mew we know as a female. I believe Darkrai is a male (the voice helps), just like Dialga and Palkia are both male as well as Giratina. I also think Celebi is a male (unless there are actually more than one Celebi out there, the fourth movie screwed that up with the ending), as well as Jirachi, and a few others. Yeah, I think there are more male Legendaries than there are female for some reason.

    As for the normal genderless Pokémon, chances are majority of them are genderless, but as they're odd-looking Pokémon, the humans probably haven't been able to figure out where the sex organs are on them--if they have any to begin with. I'm not even sure if they do lay eggs to begin with, but as there are a bunch of them running around, they probably do breed. Thus this whole entire paragraph got contradicted left and right.

    So it's more-or-less an opinionated question, since the franchise is never going to answer this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolt the Cat View Post
    IRL, starfish can reproduce by regeneration, if you were to cut a starfish in half, instead of dying both halves would grow into two new starfish. I imagine it's the same way with Staryu and Starmie.
    I thought of that, but how would a staryu be able to recreate a new core from just an arm? Sure, it's never actually stated that this can't happen, but it doesn't sound plausible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kutie Pie View Post
    I keep in mind the anime =/= game rule. So for genderless Pokémon like Legendaries, I just go by what I think they look like. I consider Mew to be pretty girly, but it's very possible the Mew from the eighth movie is an entirely different Mew--even then, I consider the Mew we know as a female. I believe Darkrai is a male (the voice helps), just like Dialga and Palkia are both male as well as Giratina. I also think Celebi is a male (unless there are actually more than one Celebi out there, the fourth movie screwed that up with the ending), as well as Jirachi, and a few others. Yeah, I think there are more male Legendaries than there are female for some reason.
    Wasn't jirachi referred to as "he" in the movie? I'm pretty sure it was at least said that jirachi and Max were like brothers. And the lugia in Whirl islands seemed pretty obviously meant to be a mother. Besides that, I personally don't think of that much, but I wouldn't be surprised if most saw more legendaries as being male, seeing as people tend to see animals whose gender is unknown as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octoboy View Post
    I thought of that, but how would a staryu be able to recreate a new core from just an arm? Sure, it's never actually stated that this can't happen, but it doesn't sound plausible.
    It wouldn't. It depends on how they're injured. If the arm just gets cut off, the arm will grow back. But if you were to cut it straight down the middle, both halves would regenerate into two new ones. In Staryu's case, I imagine that any injured Staryu can regenerate as long as part of the core is still there.

    And all this talk about regeneration reminds me, why in Arceus' name does Staryu/Starmie not have Regenerator?
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