"Shy clumsy girl" was how May started in early Hoenn. It's only later on May became more tomboyish and competent.
I'm afraid they used all the female character tropes. Oh and the nerdy personality went to Max.
But just because a character shares a few traits with another, it doesn't mean they can be portrayed differently. We could get a nerdy (or at least, very intelligent) character without the inexperience and insufferable attitude of Max, or the obsessive weirdness of Conway. They were both nerds, but were very different characters. (But I got to say, they they did look physically similar.) I really like these two characters, and I don't see why they can't make somewhat similar traits to another simply because 'someone else did it.'
She has a personality that stands out, is not yet another coordinator, is not shoved in our faces with fanservice, etc.
Really? I suppose if Iris's personality didn't remind me so much of Misty, I would agree. The coordinator thing, contest aren't in the series anymore so we're bound to get even more girls who are not coordinators as long as their off the show. So that excuse will grow weaker as the series progresses, just like Cilan replacing Brock was a big deal, but now that it's sunk in it doesn't feel all that big of a deal now.
I have nothing against Iris personally but at the same time I don't think she's anything special.
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I have nothing against Iris personally but at the same time I don't think she's anything special.
If you remove the dragon backstory etc, I agree, her actual personality doesn't stand out that much. Its only when you include all the vine swinging, dragon stuff that she gets interesting.
I guess its because Iris doesn't tend to be too prominent when the story isn't about her. She's not really used for comic relief much either besides whenever Axew is doing something.
If you remove the dragon backstory etc, I agree, her actual personality doesn't stand out that much. Its only when you include all the vine swinging, dragon stuff that she gets interesting.
I guess its because Iris doesn't tend to be too prominent when the story isn't about her. She's not really used for comic relief much either besides whenever Axew is doing something.
Her personality just seems like a huge brat to me. Even Max didn't annoy me as much. Iris and Cilan seem to butt into things more(well in BW1)
Really? I suppose if Iris's personality didn't remind me so much of Misty, I would agree. The coordinator thing, contest aren't in the series anymore so we're bound to get even more girls who are not coordinators as long as their off the show. So that excuse will grow weaker as the series progresses, just like Cilan replacing Brock was a big deal, but now that it's sunk in it doesn't feel all that big of a deal now.
I have nothing against Iris personally but at the same time I don't think she's anything special.
Iris does remind me of Misty, I agree, but at least she's not a complete copy/rehash/whatever.
Hey now hold on, Cilan is an everything Connoisseur, so it's not fair to exclude someone just because Cilan is already a connoisseur of that.
True. But Iris worked so well because she often contradicted Cilan. So the new girl can just be incredibly shy to contrast against Cilan's eccentric personality.
Originally Posted by CyberCubed
They can't do another female rookie trainer. What can a new girl be like and not be a copy?
As long as she's not a Type-Specialist or a Coordinator.
Originally Posted by CyberCubed
I'm afraid they used all the female character tropes. Oh and the nerdy personality went to Max.
Although a slight issue with the New Girl wanting to be a Pokémon Professor would meld too much with Cilan's Science Connoisseur shtick. That means Ash would be the "dumb" one of the group again and I don't want that.
Her goal can still be to become a Pokémon Professor but has no experience or knowledge. That way Ash is her mentor in Pokémon - Human interaction and the physical aspect of battling. Cilan can be her mentor in the basics, taking care of pokemon, and the facts of battling. That way they don't make Ash dumb again.
Ash
1. Main Rival - Female Game Protagonist
2. Secondary Rival - a Male PokéFrance Trainer
3. Others - Type-Specialist
Cilan
1. Burgundy
2. Jessie
3. a Male PokéFrance Trainer Don't add Coord Jessie with a Connoiseur.
Girl
1. n/a
I don't see any reason why Cilan would be a Coordinator in a region with Contests. I don't seee any relationship between Connoiseur and Coordinator witht he exception of the gimmick in one episode. Sorry, but it's more probable seeing again Dawn's Contests again than Cilan doing that. Cilan can stay but as a Pokemon Connoiseur. And remmeber, that we shoudln't expect three known characters in XY or they don't have characters to promote the games.
I see:
-Contests with a new character or Dawn.
-Cilan a s a connoseiur.
-Cilan + New girl's coordinator.
-Anything of these.
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I don't see any reason why Cilan would be a Coordinator in a region with Contests. I don't seee any relationship between Connoiseur and Coordinator witht he exception of the gimmick in one episode. Sorry, but it's more probable seeing again Dawn's Contests again than Cilan doing that. Cilan can stay but as a Pokemon Connoiseur. And remmeber, that we shoudln't expect three known characters in XY or they don't have characters to promote the games.
I see:
-Contests with a new character or Dawn.
-Cilan a s a connoseiur.
-Cilan + New girl's coordinator.
-Anything of these.
I don't see the problem with Cilan becoming a Coordinator. He seemed quite interested in Dawn's quest and maybe him fighting against her inspired him. He could very well be both a Coordinator and a Connoisseur, while the girl takes whatever new role XY introduces to the games.
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I see:
-Contests with a new character or Dawn.
-Cilan a s a connoseiur.
-Cilan + New girl's coordinator.
-Anything of these.
OR.... We bring back may! Yay! May should stay! She could sit on hay! And play! All day!!
K enough of my rhymes, but yeah I'd rather see may Harley and drew over dawn and zoey, especially since we saw dawn return and she hardly even did anything.
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I don't see any reason why Cilan would be a Coordinator in a region with Contests. I don't seee any relationship between Connoiseur and Coordinator witht he exception of the gimmick in one episode. Sorry, but it's more probable seeing again Dawn's Contests again than Cilan doing that. Cilan can stay but as a Pokemon Connoiseur. And remmeber, that we shoudln't expect three known characters in XY or they don't have characters to promote the games.
Cilan is a Pokémon Connoisseur also a Fishing Connoisseur, a Metro Connoisseur, and Detective Connoisseur. I odubt he'd have a problem about joining contests. Besides that helps him increase his Connoisseur skills. He already sparkles and is over the top. He's half-way there.
Originally Posted by Cresselia92
I don't see the problem with Cilan becoming a Coordinator. He seemed quite interested in Dawn's quest and maybe him fighting against her inspired him. He could very well be both a Coordinator and a Connoisseur, while the girl takes whatever new role XY introduces to the games.
I just hope that one of the two new companions is a complete rookie so they don't have to dumb down Ash and have him be the one questioning and dexing everything. Make it like Hoenn where he doesn't even have a main rival to lose to all the time. I hope the next series begins as a direct continuation to BW like AG and DP did, where we see Ash already leave there at the end of this series. So he's less likely to regress in between lol.
Pokemon have been Dexed in every series. It has nothing to do with dumping ash down. Even if I have seen the Pokemon I still check the dex in the games.
I do hope it is not how they did BW from DP but next gen is connected with this series so we get a good move into it rather then it happening like BW
Ash going it solo? For a few episodes it would be okay, 3 at the max. A whole region? Unless your a huge Ash fan, I don't see it being successful at all. Ash IMO is the stalest thing in the anime. I would not bother to watch or keep up with the updates.
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Originally Posted by CyberCubed
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